Egypt Air flight MS804 missing!

[Vaud]

JMGS4 said:

German radio now reporting that an egyptair tech put the bomb on the plane.....waiting for more details

Amazing that they have found a suspect but not yet the plane or what actually happened...

[s3fella]

If it is a technician involved, it puts that incident regarding the Arabic writing on the EasyJet engine in a slightly different light?

[Thankyou4calling]

It's ridiculously premature to start talking about bombs in my opinion.

Let the officials do their job and then comment on corroborated facts rather than silly Twitter speculation.

People have died so let's not forget that.

[The Hypno-Toad]

So much BS surrounds early reports on plane crashes these days that I think its wise to ignore any reports of 'information' for at least 24hrs. By then the fog usually starts to lift.

Already we've had a boat captain claiming to have seen a flash in the sky, which seems to be a constant theme in crashes over the oceans these days even when the boat is actually miles away from the crash site.

Fox News is going crazy ape bonkers over this. They had a 'commentator' on claiming that this could mean the end of Egypts economy and that they face the prospect of an ISIS inspired revolution and if it was proved a bomb was placed on the aircraft at a European airport it could mean the end of air travel as we know it. Two hours after the crash and before the wreckage has even been found!!

Not unusual for Fox but jeez...

[worsy]

Thankyou4calling said:

It's ridiculously premature to start talking about bombs in my opinion.

Let the officials do their job and then comment on corroborated facts rather than silly Twitter speculation.

People have died so let's not forget that.

Unfortunately it's the default go to reason in this day and age.

[MrBarry123]

For fk sake.

[danllama]

s3fella said:

If it is a technician involved, it puts that incident regarding the Arabic writing on the EasyJet engine in a slightly different light?

What's this about? Got al link?

[Thankyou4calling]

worsy said:

Unfortunately it's the default go to reason in this day and age.

It needn't be though.

I'm not advocating we go back to the time of waiting for the newspaper but it's simply crass and stupid to be talking about bombs and Egyptair technicians.

If you search the internet you'll find sites quoting anything and everything, does that make it right to cite them?

[528Sport]

Firstly, lets hope there are survivors. If not, RIP to all onboard.


Idiots at BBC interviewing a "security expert" FFS we don't know what went wrong yet. Jesus I hate the media.

Lets hope they find the plane and it doesn't end up like another MH370 case

[Esseesse]

danllama said:

s3fella said:

If it is a technician involved, it puts that incident regarding the Arabic writing on the EasyJet engine in a slightly different light?

What's this about? Got al link?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/f...

They don't mention what the graffiti said...

[clonmult]

danllama said:

s3fella said:

If it is a technician involved, it puts that incident regarding the Arabic writing on the EasyJet engine in a slightly different light?

What's this about? Got al link?

Last november, happened next to some Easyjet planes (ie. not even on them). Doesn't mean anything - don't actually think they've said what was written on the planes, so nothing put in a different light at all. Just useless idle speculation.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Derek Smith said:

s p a c e m a n said:

Curious as to if it were something on board why would they wait until 3 hours into the flight?

Over water? That was the intent of PanAm 103. The reason it crashed at Lockerbie was due to a delay on the tarmac. There would be limited chances of obtaining evidence.

• Allegedly

[Otispunkmeyer]

Thankyou4calling said:

worsy said:

Unfortunately it's the default go to reason in this day and age.

It needn't be though.

I'm not advocating we go back to the time of waiting for the newspaper but it's simply crass and stupid to be talking about bombs and Egyptair technicians.

If you search the internet you'll find sites quoting anything and everything, does that make it right to cite them?

Really starting to detest the media these days. In the race to be the first and to always be seen to be covering something they'll regurgitate just about any old crap without even checking. And when so many do, totally BS can quickly become "truth".

Its not even limited to 24 hr rolling news. Many supposedly tech and science oriented outlets do exactly the same without even bothering to check facts or even do the basic sums that show most fantastical sounding products and break throughs are merely bogus snake oil stuff.

I mean many publications extolled the virtues of this Fontus self filling water bottle thing thats doing the rounds. So much so that the damn thing won design awards before anyones even seen an actual product. Yet no one sat down to do the simple Thermodynamic investigation which shows it to be almost complete hogwash. You'd need a solar panel the size of the ones you see on roof tops and you'd have to be in an environment of 40 degree heat and 100% humidity to get anything out of it at all.

And the re-breather that allows you to breath under water like a fish? Apparently that had micro-lithium batteries providing hours of underwater fun. No one even twigged why is he selling a cheap looking 3rd year design project when he could essentially sell the "micro-lithium" battery tech to the likes of samsung, LG, Tesla for a blank cheque?

rips my knitting. All of it.

[el romeral]

I would imagine they will be looking into the backgrounds of several of the passengers, which includes:

1 Saudi
1 Iraqi
1 Algerian
1 Chadian
1 Kuwaiti
30 Egyptians
1 Belgian

At that height and 40 miles from the coast, is it within range of a ground to air missile?

[Axionknight]

el romeral said:

At that height and 40 miles from the coast, is it within range of a ground to air missile?

It would have to be an impressive system indeed I would have though.

[Esseesse]

Axionknight said:

el romeral said:

At that height and 40 miles from the coast, is it within range of a ground to air missile?

It would have to be an impressive system indeed I would have though.

And we would have detected it from Cyprus?

[essayer]

Looks like a number of ships searching N of Alexandria - look for Oceanus on marinetraffic; it's near stationary and other ships are converging on its location.

[Axionknight]

Esseesse said:

Axionknight said:

el romeral said:

At that height and 40 miles from the coast, is it within range of a ground to air missile?

It would have to be an impressive system indeed I would have though.

And we would have detected it from Cyprus?

No idea tbh, but if it was shot down from land it would take something pretty impressive to be able to do it, definitely not some crackpot with a portable weapon. I think the theory can be discounted, personally.

[xjay1337]

The Crack Fox said:

At the risk of sounding selfish - I'm at the point where I don't want to fly any more. I fly at least one a week, sometimes 3 or 4 times a week, and have done so for over a decade. It's horrible anyway. I passed through Glasgow days before that nutter drove his car into the doors on fire, I was at Brussells a few days before the recent bomb, I often pass through CDG. I am really, really sick of the stress.

Thoughts are with the families and friends of the poor people on board.

Likewise!!

It was probably a bomb or terrorism.
It's so, so, so rare for a plane to break up in mid-air without a reason.
I haven't checked the plane type or the glide ratio but I would imagine most commercial airliners can quite happily glide 50 or so miles...(distance to the coast).

[dazwalsh]

I normally despise the "experts" commentating on the news channels but there was an ex BA pilot on sky news this morning who rubbished some of the speculation and frankly ridiculous questions from the news presenters. He actually knew what he was talking about too which makes a change.