Egypt Air flight MS804 missing!
Discussion
SilverSpur said:
p1stonhead said:
I mean, I know any sea is big, but isn't the med like seriously chocked full of ships and boats? Am I wrong to be surprised it wasn't found relatively quickly?
That area is very deep, and it is a pretty large search area. But you'd think they'd have a pretty tough idea where it was.Of course, they could have been destroyed in the 'event'.
p1stonhead said:
SilverSpur said:
p1stonhead said:
I mean, I know any sea is big, but isn't the med like seriously chocked full of ships and boats? Am I wrong to be surprised it wasn't found relatively quickly?
That area is very deep, and it is a pretty large search area. But you'd think they'd have a pretty tough idea where it was.Of course, they could have been destroyed in the 'event'.
hidetheelephants said:
SilverSpur said:
Yeah you'd think so. There's also quite a lot of military in the general area, searching for immigrants in small boats etc, you'd think someone would have a very reasonable idea.
There are no immigrants anywhere near the crash site.
Earlier on we even read the sea bed was littered with dead migrant bodies. FFS.
saaby93 said:
Does make you wonder if they really want to find it
It took two years to find the air France 447 black boxes, that search involved numerous navy ships plus French nuclear submarines, mini subs and towed listening devices from the US navy. It gets much harder after 30 days when the black box stops pinging. hidetheelephants said:
SilverSpur said:
Yeah you'd think so. There's also quite a lot of military in the general area, searching for immigrants in small boats etc, you'd think someone would have a very reasonable idea.
There are no immigrants anywhere near the crash site.
Clearly though the shorter routes will be much more attractive to the people smugglers.
I heard that there was a military exercise in the general area at the time too, anyone know if this is true?
Edited by SilverSpur on Thursday 26th May 10:01
el stovey said:
It took two years to find the air France 447 black boxes, that search involved numerous navy ships plus French nuclear submarines, mini subs and towed listening devices from the US navy. It gets much harder after 30 days when the black box stops pinging.
The Med is shallower than the South Atlantic. What amazes me is that the Royal Navy was able to locate the wreckage of the Comet that crashed off Elba back in 1954 using, by today's standards, very primitive search techniques.
Eric Mc said:
The Med is shallower than the South Atlantic.
What amazes me is that the Royal Navy was able to locate the wreckage of the Comet that crashed off Elba back in 1954 using, by today's standards, very primitive search techniques.
It was amazing they recovered so much of that aircraft. However, they did have witnesses that knew exactly where it entered the water (fishermen recovered the first bodies from the scene and marked the place) and also, it was in shallow water, at 260 feet.What amazes me is that the Royal Navy was able to locate the wreckage of the Comet that crashed off Elba back in 1954 using, by today's standards, very primitive search techniques.
The area MS804 went down is believed to be around 10,000 feet deep.
Quite a difference in depth obviously. But over 60 years on from 1954 we should have a lot more engineering available to us now compared to back then.
And I think we must have a fair idea where the Airbus went down as wreckage has been spotted and we know at what pointy it dropped off the radar.
And I think we must have a fair idea where the Airbus went down as wreckage has been spotted and we know at what pointy it dropped off the radar.
Eric Mc said:
Quite a difference in depth obviously. But over 60 years on from 1954 we should have a lot more engineering available to us now compared to back then.
And I think we must have a fair idea where the Airbus went down as wreckage has been spotted and we know at what pointy it dropped off the radar.
Objects on the ocean floor are a bAnd I think we must have a fair idea where the Airbus went down as wreckage has been spotted and we know at what pointy it dropped off the radar.
d to find unless you absolutely pin-point them!I've mentioned this story a few times, but back in 2004 we installed some Christmas tress on oil wells in the Gulf of Guinea. When we went back, the only reference was the DGPS system, well there's no landmarks, and due to the slightest of errors we spent ages mooching around in only 3000 ft of water trying to find 45 tonne blocks of steel. Fecking days due to low vis and a satellite error of a few metres!!
Eric Mc said:
Quite a difference in depth obviously. But over 60 years on from 1954 we should have a lot more engineering available to us now compared to back then.
And I think we must have a fair idea where the Airbus went down as wreckage has been spotted and we know at what pointy it dropped off the radar.
Do we know how big the wreckage field for this one is yet Eric? I don't believe they have said yet whether they think it broke up at high level or if it was intact when it hit the water. All the early reports about manoeuvres and semi controlled descents seem to have been contradicted. I have no idea what parts of what we read is factual and which is made up by the media. And I think we must have a fair idea where the Airbus went down as wreckage has been spotted and we know at what pointy it dropped off the radar.
Lack of actual official reported news the last 4-5 days is very odd too. Any one could think there was an active cover up going on or something.....
el stovey said:
saaby93 said:
Does make you wonder if they really want to find it
It took two years to find the air France 447 black boxes, that search involved numerous navy ships plus French nuclear submarines, mini subs and towed listening devices from the US navy. It gets much harder after 30 days when the black box stops pinging. 
Eric Mc said:
el stovey said:
It took two years to find the air France 447 black boxes, that search involved numerous navy ships plus French nuclear submarines, mini subs and towed listening devices from the US navy. It gets much harder after 30 days when the black box stops pinging.
The Med is shallower than the South Atlantic. What amazes me is that the Royal Navy was able to locate the wreckage of the Comet that crashed off Elba back in 1954 using, by today's standards, very primitive search techniques.
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