Eleven children injured in Blyth park dog attack

[tankplanker]

dave_s13 said:

Morris ist ein Knacken Name für einen Hund und er klingt Ass . In der Tat alle staffies die ich je getroffen habe, haben schöne gewesen .

Aber.

Sie haben das Wort " gebracht " falsch so jetzt alles, was Sie sagen, wird gemacht unwichtig und Morris ist von euch schämen .

Apologies I don't speak German.

Where I'm from brought is always (incorrectly) used like that.

[darker grapefruit]

So, we can see from this thread that we have nice Staffies and we have nasty Staffies. The nice Staffies have the propensity to be nasty, but they are not nasty – because they have been brought-up by responsible owners.

[anonymous-user]

Cotty said:

garyhun said:

That made me chuckle. Every time I see Staffy's l always go up to the owner for a chat and a stroke of the dog. Lovely dogs with the right owner.

How do you gauge someone as the right owner, before risking having your hand taken off.

You don't. What you do is have a chat, then you get a feel for the person, then you ask about the dog and how it is with strangers, then you ask is it OK to stroke the dog and, assuming you get a positive reply, you stroke the dog.

Quite easy really and only takes a few seconds.

[durbster]

Cotty said:

Some do and some go nuts and kill people like today’s stabbings at the Hampton’s Sainsbuys. If there is even the slightest/tiniest percentage a dog could turn don’t get one that’s built like a brick st house that can shake a child around like it’s a rag doll.

I don’t care how nice and loving a dog is, that’s negated once it kills someone or something

Yes.

Any dog.

Hence, focusing on the breed is completely missing the point.

[markh1973]

durbster said:

Cotty said:

Some do and some go nuts and kill people like today’s stabbings at the Hampton’s Sainsbuys. If there is even the slightest/tiniest percentage a dog could turn don’t get one that’s built like a brick st house that can shake a child around like it’s a rag doll.

I don’t care how nice and loving a dog is, that’s negated once it kills someone or something

Yes.

Any dog.

Hence, focusing on the breed is completely missing the point.

Precisely - it's not a breed thing any dog could do something vicious.

To a stranger my lab probably appears scarier than the staffy. He is 30kg of muscle with a large bark ( the clue that the bark is meaningless being the fierce tail wag that usually accompanies it).

[TwigtheWonderkid]

durbster said:

Yes.

Any dog.

Hence, focusing on the breed is completely missing the point.

Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.

I'm not recalling too many stories of poodles with bows in their hair mauling kids. That's not to say they can't. But they don't.

[durbster]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.

I'm not recalling too many stories of poodles with bows in their hair mauling kids. That's not to say they can't. But they don't.

Yep, because the current enemy of choice is Islam, but would you have said that sentence 20 years ago?

Remember before that, Russians were the bad guys in Hollywood films...

[Cotty]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.

I'm not recalling too many stories of poodles with bows in their hair mauling kids. That's not to say they can't. But they don't.

Good point.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

durbster said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.

I'm not recalling too many stories of poodles with bows in their hair mauling kids. That's not to say they can't. But they don't.

Yep, because the current enemy of choice is Islam, but would you have said that sentence 20 years ago?

Remember before that, Russians were the bad guys in Hollywood films...

I don't think staffies are the enemy of choice. But when a mauling happens, I would guess staffy/doberman/rotty/pit bull/ or one of numerous breeds that I see around that stares at my throat as if top breeders recommended it.

It won't be a toy poddle or a bichon fries.

[durbster]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I don't think staffies are the enemy of choice.

Of course they are. Staffies were around in the 80s when all the stories were about Rottweilers.

There are also a hell of a lot more staffies around than poodles.

[markh1973]

Cotty said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.

I'm not recalling too many stories of poodles with bows in their hair mauling kids. That's not to say they can't. But they don't.

Good point.

Here you go

https://www.facebook.com/newschannel3/posts/397060...

http://www.wboc.com/story/10769319/girl-7-hospital...

And an article about dangerous dogs

http://thepoodleanddogblog.typepad.com/the_poodle_...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_...

[ali_kat]

durbster said:

Yep, because the current enemy of choice is Islam, but would you have said that sentence 20 years ago? ...

Not so long ago, it would have been the Christians

[Jimmyarm]

markymarkthree said:

Spot on there Jim.
I always make a point of thanking people when they scoop up their dog and ask if their dog is dangerous as i walk my staffy. It leads to some interesting conversations and a bit of education for them.

Our little monster is a Staffy/lab/americab bulldog cross. Her colourings and build make her look like a little rotweiler.

Some people are all excited when the come to day hello asking if she is a rottie pup and then back off a bit when i say she is a staffy cross :lol:

[dave_s13]

tankplanker said:

pologies I don't speak German.

Where I'm from brought is always (incorrectly) used like that.

That's doesn't make it right thought.

[FreeLitres]

Hmmm, if one of these "just a big softie" dogs starts attacking your child, whats the best way to stop it?

[Tango13]

One of the blokes I work with has a large Rottie, he has to keep it away from small children for their safety...



















The dogs' tail is just the right/wrong height for giving a toddler a slap in the face when the dog is in 'happy mode'

[Shinobi]

Most common Dog bites listed below in Order.

Dachshunds
Chihuahua
Jack Russell
Australian Cattle Dog
Cocker Spaniel
Beagle
Border Collie
Pit Bull Terrier
Great Dane
English Springer


Staffies are the third most popular pet in the country so the odds are it will be the third most likely to bite dog.

I own a pair of Rottweilers and surprisingly as much as they were hated and vilanised in the 80's they have been perfectly behaved and not eaten any of my friends, nieces, nephews or family.

It really is down to the owner and what stuns me is IF the dog was wearing a muzzle why did someone take it off? Further to that and possibly more importantly why was the dog away from the owner for that period of time.

I really feel for the kids and the guy who has to step in and restrain the dog. I trust my dogs 99% but even if I had King Charles spaniels I would not trust them 100%

[Pesty]

Where on earth did you get that list from? As there are only a handful of acds about and they love people (yes there was on bad incident in London with a man bitten but no way that list is accurate for the uk. Working dogs on ranches in the states ,maybe but not uk, no way. I doubt any of you here have ever seen one.

Edit found it. " a recent study " doesn't say where from. I'm sure all 50 uk acd owners were asked.


But does say this not btes at all as you suggest but most aggressive including towards other dogs. Lies damn lies and stats.

" It looked at the different types of aggression such as towards other dogs, towards strangers and towards owners. Some of the results were surprising, below are the top ten most aggressive breed"

Does any agency in the uk even record this if so how and who?

IVe only been bitten once as mentioned I didn't tell anybody. So how accurate would any list be.

Edited by Pesty on Saturday 21st May 22:47

[xjay1337]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.

I'm not recalling too many stories of poodles with bows in their hair mauling kids. That's not to say they can't. But they don't.

No idea why but i giggles when i read that lol.

Very valid point

[markh1973]

xjay1337 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.

I'm not recalling too many stories of poodles with bows in their hair mauling kids. That's not to say they can't. But they don't.

No idea why but i giggles when i read that lol.

Very valid point

Except as I pointed out above it isn't a valid point