Eleven children injured in Blyth park dog attack
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I think dogs such a staffies should be banned in the UK. I'm sure the number of good dogs and good owners far outweigh the bad chav ones, but it doesn't hide the fact that time and time again it's these dogs which are doing the attacking. It's a case of the minority ruining it for everyone, but sometimes that's just the way it is.
It's "always" these types of dogs?
No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
Jasandjules said:
It's "always" these types of dogs?
No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
I was bitten by a Golden Retriever. Not exactly known for their menacing behaviour! No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
Jasandjules said:
It's "always" these types of dogs?
No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
I think it is more a case of whatever breed the knuckledraggers think looks menacing this decade.No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
Pillskii said:
I think dogs such a staffies should be banned in the UK. I'm sure the number of good dogs and good owners far outweigh the bad chav ones, but it doesn't hide the fact that time and time again it's these dogs which are doing the attacking. It's a case of the minority ruining it for everyone, but sometimes that's just the way it is.
What a load of b
ks! Dogs of all sorts bite peopleI have been bitten by collies, west highland terriers and a spaniel.
SpeedMattersNot said:
Jasandjules said:
It's "always" these types of dogs?
No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
I was bitten by a Golden Retriever. Not exactly known for their menacing behaviour! No. At one stage it was German Shepherds. Then Rotties. Then Doberman. Then Akitas.. It is whatever breed the moronic tabloid media seek to portray as dangerous.
But look into what dogs actually do attack the most, I suspect many people will be rather surprised....
I'd rather be attacked by a golden retriever than a staffy or some other dog with much more powerful jaws.
Sure any dog might bite you if you're unlucky but some will likely cause you much more damage than others if they do.
Edited by el stovey on Sunday 22 May 12:13
el stovey said:
Lists of number of bites are often just a function of popularity of breeds. Number of fatal attacks might be different or if you include attacks relative to number of dogs etc.
I'd rather be attacked by a golden retriever than a staffy or some other dog with much more powerful jaws.
Sure any dog might bite you if you're unlucky but some will likely cause you much more damage than others if they do.
So to address that you'd need to ban any dog with jaws strong enough to inflict a fatal bite, which is basically any dog from a Jack Russell upwards.I'd rather be attacked by a golden retriever than a staffy or some other dog with much more powerful jaws.
Sure any dog might bite you if you're unlucky but some will likely cause you much more damage than others if they do.
What makes you think a Golden Retriever has a lower bite strength than a Staffy?
If you listen to any group with access to by far the broadest data and experience with dogs; vets, breeders, or professional canine organisations like the Kennel Club and the RSPA, there is precisely nothing that warrants the reputation of Staffordshire Bull Terriers.
Battersea said:
All Staffie lovers know this brilliant breed doesn't deserve their reputation for being aggressive. Our campaign looks to address these misperceptions and show the truly loving nature of the soft Staffie breed.
https://www.battersea.org.uk/support-us/campaigns/staffies-theyre-softer-you-thinkKennel Club said:
The Staffordshire is one of the most popular of all the terriers. With the human race, he is kindness itself, and his genuine love of children is well known.
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/services/public/breed/display.aspx?id=3080RSPCA said:
Staffordshire bull terriers, also known as Staffies and Stafs, can be wonderful dogs who have made loving family pets through many decades.
http://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/dogs/puppy/staffordshirebullterrierThey went as far as launching a campaign video to remind people that Staffies have been around far longer than their current reputation has:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t85JE1egncQ
This argument comes up again and again but it always boils down to a simple battle between emotion and perception vs. facts and data.
I really don't think this thread is going anywhere. You've got the ill educated staffy haters on one side (who seem to hate them more because of the type of people who own them, than the actual dog) and the dog lovers of all kinds on the other.
It is what it is. Some people like pillskii (sp?) above clearly have no idea and have probably never met a nice bull terrier and always been too prejudice to actually speak to an owner. Those people will never learn, primarily because they don't want to. They're happy to keep their NIMBY views and cry about all the chavs and their evil dogs ruling our society.
The image is poor - yes but anything with teeth can bite. End of. The media love a "bad guy" and it's staffs atm. I'm in my 30's and grew up in fear of Rottweilers and GSD's because they were the "evil" dogs throughout the 80's.
Times, but maybe not attitudes will change. Until then, I'll continue to love my dogs and keep well clear of anything small and yappy.
It is what it is. Some people like pillskii (sp?) above clearly have no idea and have probably never met a nice bull terrier and always been too prejudice to actually speak to an owner. Those people will never learn, primarily because they don't want to. They're happy to keep their NIMBY views and cry about all the chavs and their evil dogs ruling our society.
The image is poor - yes but anything with teeth can bite. End of. The media love a "bad guy" and it's staffs atm. I'm in my 30's and grew up in fear of Rottweilers and GSD's because they were the "evil" dogs throughout the 80's.
Times, but maybe not attitudes will change. Until then, I'll continue to love my dogs and keep well clear of anything small and yappy.
pidsy said:
I really don't think this thread is going anywhere. You've got the ill educated staffy haters on one side (who seem to hate them more because of the type of people who own them, than the actual dog) and the dog lovers of all kinds on the other.
It is what it is. Some people like pillskii (sp?) above clearly have no idea and have probably never met a nice bull terrier and always been too prejudice to actually speak to an owner. Those people will never learn, primarily because they don't want to. They're happy to keep their NIMBY views and cry about all the chavs and their evil dogs ruling our society.
The image is poor - yes but anything with teeth can bite. End of. The media love a "bad guy" and it's staffs atm. I'm in my 30's and grew up in fear of Rottweilers and GSD's because they were the "evil" dogs throughout the 80's.
Times, but maybe not attitudes will change. Until then, I'll continue to love my dogs and keep well clear of anything small and yappy.
ThisIt is what it is. Some people like pillskii (sp?) above clearly have no idea and have probably never met a nice bull terrier and always been too prejudice to actually speak to an owner. Those people will never learn, primarily because they don't want to. They're happy to keep their NIMBY views and cry about all the chavs and their evil dogs ruling our society.
The image is poor - yes but anything with teeth can bite. End of. The media love a "bad guy" and it's staffs atm. I'm in my 30's and grew up in fear of Rottweilers and GSD's because they were the "evil" dogs throughout the 80's.
Times, but maybe not attitudes will change. Until then, I'll continue to love my dogs and keep well clear of anything small and yappy.
Although I feel that my staffy balances the image nicely with the middle class Labrador
Admittedly the staffy, being a rescue, was considerably cheaper than the lab
pidsy said:
You've got the ill educated staffy haters on one side (who seem to hate them more because of the type of people who own them, than the actual dog) and the dog lovers of all kinds on the other.
How open minded. So anyone who dislikes staffys is ill educated and anyone who likes them is a dog lover of all kinds.
I've no doubt staffys are great dogs with the right owner but the very high number of crap owners, combined with the dogs strength make it enough for me to be wary of them more than say a golden retriever or most other breeds.
If there's a breed you know is popular amongst scumbags and chavs and other idiots trying to look tough, wouldn't it be a good idea to be more wary of them?
As an owner of a very large rottweiler that's properly exercised it's very easy to see how the bias works.
She still has her tail which 99% of the time when she's out could create enough lift to make a smaller breed airborne.
Majority of people under 30 love her, the 30-50yo range are very mistrustful and anyone older is again very receptive.
She still has her tail which 99% of the time when she's out could create enough lift to make a smaller breed airborne.
Majority of people under 30 love her, the 30-50yo range are very mistrustful and anyone older is again very receptive.
rohrl said:
If I was in charge I'd be quite happy to ban all dogs except Golden Retrievers, who seem pretty chilled out and good with children.
Yeah...?https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=golden+retriever...
Note: you can do this search with any breed and find the same stuff.
el stovey said:
pidsy said:
You've got the ill educated staffy haters on one side (who seem to hate them more because of the type of people who own them, than the actual dog) and the dog lovers of all kinds on the other.
How open minded. So anyone who dislikes staffys is ill educated and anyone who likes them is a dog lover of all kinds.
I've no doubt staffys are great dogs with the right owner but the very high number of crap owners, combined with the dogs strength make it enough for me to be wary of them more than say a golden retriever or most other breeds.
If there's a breed you know is popular amongst scumbags and chavs and other idiots trying to look tough, wouldn't it be a good idea to be more wary of them?
Being more wary of them? Absolutely- if you read my first post a few pages back, I explain that I too keep a very wide berth of the leather harnessed, brass st George's flag wearing dogs usually seen on streets in towns. It's a safer bet to approach a dog that's being walked somewhere that isn't a chav hotspot. Say hello to the owner and, provided you don't get a grunt of verbal and a flash of gold teeth, you could make your judgement. Maybe, you could bare to have a one sentence conversation with one of us undesirables and see where it goes from there. Not every bull terrier is primed to rip you limb from limb 24hrs a day!
They have to sleep sometime.
All of what I've said is firmly tongue in cheek, hence my posting pictures of Duncan earlier. There are bad dogs! There are lots of bad owners but to say they are all super destructive ripping machines is a bit strong.
Come out for a walk with my 2 and you'd soon soften up!
I would rather have a small chance of getting bit than do without dogs, if owners could be more responsible then I think the risk could be made a lot lower.
They are fantastic creatures by and large, every toy and device ever made for kids doesnt come close to having a dog, my wife says we arent getting when ours leaves us, we shall see about that, when feeling low for any reason and the dog comes over, you soon forget. They are hillarious as well, dont understand not liking them, I just think that is usually down to a bad experience or just lack of exposure to them.
They are fantastic creatures by and large, every toy and device ever made for kids doesnt come close to having a dog, my wife says we arent getting when ours leaves us, we shall see about that, when feeling low for any reason and the dog comes over, you soon forget. They are hillarious as well, dont understand not liking them, I just think that is usually down to a bad experience or just lack of exposure to them.
markh1973 said:
Pillskii said:
I think dogs such a staffies should be banned in the UK. I'm sure the number of good dogs and good owners far outweigh the bad chav ones, but it doesn't hide the fact that time and time again it's these dogs which are doing the attacking. It's a case of the minority ruining it for everyone, but sometimes that's just the way it is.
What a load of bks! Dogs of all sorts bite peopleI have been bitten by collies, west highland terriers and a spaniel.
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