Eleven children injured in Blyth park dog attack
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My sister was bitten by our next door neighbours rottweiler back in 91, it was the first dog to be put down under the dangerous dogs act.
From a very young age I was always very nervous of dogs for this reason until I got one and ever since my opinion of dogs changed massively!
I hate it when people judge a dog purely on its breed as how a dog is brought up from pup, is so much more important! I've got a soft as s
t whippet who from pup played with a soft as shift staffie who wouldn't hurt a flea!
The problem with dogs is image and the kind of people who buy a dog for its image, more often than not these kind of people aren't fit to look after themselves never mind an animal that can potentially kill a child!
From a very young age I was always very nervous of dogs for this reason until I got one and ever since my opinion of dogs changed massively!
I hate it when people judge a dog purely on its breed as how a dog is brought up from pup, is so much more important! I've got a soft as s
t whippet who from pup played with a soft as shift staffie who wouldn't hurt a flea! The problem with dogs is image and the kind of people who buy a dog for its image, more often than not these kind of people aren't fit to look after themselves never mind an animal that can potentially kill a child!
el stovey said:
That's exactly what I thought before opening the link.
Apparently Jack Russells bite more people in the uk than staffies though but their potential to cause damage is obviously less.
There's been a few instances in my area of border collies attacking,not just sheep they worry seemingly.iApparently Jack Russells bite more people in the uk than staffies though but their potential to cause damage is obviously less.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Any religious fanatic could fly a jet into a skyscraper or bomb a city. But when it happens, I can have a pretty good guess at which religion it is.
New dog attack, lets play a quick game of guess the breed before clicking the link.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cumbria-dog-a...
Staffordshire pitbull cross breed. Never have a dog you couldn't beat in a fight?
robbocop33 said:
There's been a few instances in my area of border collies attacking,not just sheep they worry seemingly.i
Been bitten (well, nipped really) twice in 40+ years, both times by Border Collies, oddly enough I'm not a massive fan of them! Ban them & destroy them all with fire obviously
boxxob said:
Cotty said:
New dog attack, lets play a quick game of guess the breed before clicking the link.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cumbria-dog-a...
Staffordshire pitbull cross breed. Never have a dog you couldn't beat in a fight?
Confirmation bias? Search for attacks by Shar Pei, German Shepherd, Mastiff and then see what you think. Bear in mind, there are far fewer Shar Peis in the UK than Staffordshires. Many of these dogs described as 'Staffies' in these stories may not be that at all, or they may be cross-bred (commonly done with Mastiffs). The easy label and lazy thinking prevail.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cumbria-dog-a...
Staffordshire pitbull cross breed. Never have a dog you couldn't beat in a fight?
You can find reports of dog attaks by just about any breed you care to search for.
I posted up a link over the weekend to a report of a toy poodle attacking a staffy - that was in response to someone saying that you never read about poodles with bows in their hair attacking people.
I think I’ve declared it on these forums before, but I think the biggest problem the Staffy breed faces is an over-supply and demand one.
People want dogs for all sorts of reasons, regardless of income or social standing.
Some people will pay £1000 for a puppy of one particular breed. For them, this dog suits them best and this costly barrier to entry to ownership won’t be a problem. Others will take whatever is cheapest – a dog is a dog. There will always be a demand for cheap as possible puppies.
At some point, Staffy puppies became extremely cheap and widely available. This might be because after the pitbull was banned, they were seen as the next closest thing, rightly or wrongly, to meet the demands of certain urban demographics.
Whatever the reason, the Staffy has become overbred by irresponsible breeders, with many simply being given away as puppies. So some dope looks at his dog that he got for free and sees pound signs, failing to see the fallacy he himself is a part of. He finds an equally dumb neighbour with a willing partner dog, and soon he has a litter of pups that he will shortly find out are not worth £100 each. Desperate to get rid of what has now become a responsibility and drain on income that he never wanted, the dogs either end up in a taped up box under a hedge, or in the hands of other idiots. Either way, our “breeder” doesn’t care where they end up.
I was at the SSPCA in Glasgow once chatting to one of the officers, who was introducing me to the most chilled out, friendly, but ugly-as-sin staffys that they had. The guy was a huge fan of the dog and loved him to bits – said he’d have a new home in no time. The heart breaking bit though is how he got there. He was picked up straying, but was chipped so they contacted the owner to come get him. When the owner showed and was told there was a cost of something like £75 to get his dog back, he walked right back out the door saying he could get a brand new puppy for less than that.
My collie is a nightmare, with all sorts of aggression issues that we inherited when we rescued him. I burn with jealousy when I think of the people who were lucky enough to adopt that big Staffy, and all the things they will get to do as dog owners that I never will with my “posh” dog. And yet, his original owner had no issue walking out a door without him because of a £75 charge. It’s this kind of attitude – where dogs are not a responsibility but a piece of furniture or an accessory – that is the problem, not the breed itself.
People want dogs for all sorts of reasons, regardless of income or social standing.
Some people will pay £1000 for a puppy of one particular breed. For them, this dog suits them best and this costly barrier to entry to ownership won’t be a problem. Others will take whatever is cheapest – a dog is a dog. There will always be a demand for cheap as possible puppies.
At some point, Staffy puppies became extremely cheap and widely available. This might be because after the pitbull was banned, they were seen as the next closest thing, rightly or wrongly, to meet the demands of certain urban demographics.
Whatever the reason, the Staffy has become overbred by irresponsible breeders, with many simply being given away as puppies. So some dope looks at his dog that he got for free and sees pound signs, failing to see the fallacy he himself is a part of. He finds an equally dumb neighbour with a willing partner dog, and soon he has a litter of pups that he will shortly find out are not worth £100 each. Desperate to get rid of what has now become a responsibility and drain on income that he never wanted, the dogs either end up in a taped up box under a hedge, or in the hands of other idiots. Either way, our “breeder” doesn’t care where they end up.
I was at the SSPCA in Glasgow once chatting to one of the officers, who was introducing me to the most chilled out, friendly, but ugly-as-sin staffys that they had. The guy was a huge fan of the dog and loved him to bits – said he’d have a new home in no time. The heart breaking bit though is how he got there. He was picked up straying, but was chipped so they contacted the owner to come get him. When the owner showed and was told there was a cost of something like £75 to get his dog back, he walked right back out the door saying he could get a brand new puppy for less than that.
My collie is a nightmare, with all sorts of aggression issues that we inherited when we rescued him. I burn with jealousy when I think of the people who were lucky enough to adopt that big Staffy, and all the things they will get to do as dog owners that I never will with my “posh” dog. And yet, his original owner had no issue walking out a door without him because of a £75 charge. It’s this kind of attitude – where dogs are not a responsibility but a piece of furniture or an accessory – that is the problem, not the breed itself.
made the mistake of going on Schpock (the boot sale app) and looked for things locally and up popped a staffy pup - £45.
so then i searched "bull terriers" within 20 miles. the puppies seem to go for anything up to £100 and there were a lot of 6-18 month old dogs on there "free to a good home" - poor little things, i didnt want to think of the type of life they were destined for.
so then i searched "bull terriers" within 20 miles. the puppies seem to go for anything up to £100 and there were a lot of 6-18 month old dogs on there "free to a good home" - poor little things, i didnt want to think of the type of life they were destined for.
J4CKO said:
...every toy and device ever made for kids doesnt come close to having a dog, ...
Lego's far better. You don't have to have that warm feeling through a plastic bag when picking up its st, it doesn't smell when it gets wet, nor have to be taken on walks. It doesn't bark at night nor want to sleep on the bed. I'm also pretty chilled about leaving my 4yr old alone with it in a room (the 1yr old's a bit different, but that goes with anything smaller than his nostrils, so few dogs would count then either).I will give you that it hurts like buggery when you stand on a piece. It also won't retrieve a stick (but that's what kids are for).
Wrathalanche said:
I think I’ve declared it on these forums before, but I think the biggest problem the Staffy breed faces is an over-supply and demand one.
People want dogs for all sorts of reasons, regardless of income or social standing.
Some people will pay £1000 for a puppy of one particular breed. For them, this dog suits them best and this costly barrier to entry to ownership won’t be a problem. Others will take whatever is cheapest – a dog is a dog. There will always be a demand for cheap as possible puppies.
At some point, Staffy puppies became extremely cheap and widely available. This might be because after the pitbull was banned, they were seen as the next closest thing, rightly or wrongly, to meet the demands of certain urban demographics.
Whatever the reason, the Staffy has become overbred by irresponsible breeders, with many simply being given away as puppies. So some dope looks at his dog that he got for free and sees pound signs, failing to see the fallacy he himself is a part of. He finds an equally dumb neighbour with a willing partner dog, and soon he has a litter of pups that he will shortly find out are not worth £100 each. Desperate to get rid of what has now become a responsibility and drain on income that he never wanted, the dogs either end up in a taped up box under a hedge, or in the hands of other idiots. Either way, our “breeder” doesn’t care where they end up.
I was at the SSPCA in Glasgow once chatting to one of the officers, who was introducing me to the most chilled out, friendly, but ugly-as-sin staffys that they had. The guy was a huge fan of the dog and loved him to bits – said he’d have a new home in no time. The heart breaking bit though is how he got there. He was picked up straying, but was chipped so they contacted the owner to come get him. When the owner showed and was told there was a cost of something like £75 to get his dog back, he walked right back out the door saying he could get a brand new puppy for less than that.
My collie is a nightmare, with all sorts of aggression issues that we inherited when we rescued him. I burn with jealousy when I think of the people who were lucky enough to adopt that big Staffy, and all the things they will get to do as dog owners that I never will with my “posh” dog. And yet, his original owner had no issue walking out a door without him because of a £75 charge. It’s this kind of attitude – where dogs are not a responsibility but a piece of furniture or an accessory – that is the problem, not the breed itself.
Hear, hear! Some people view dogs as commodities rather than pets, and pet ownership as a right rather than a privilege. This is certainly not restricted to what have been described as 'chav' breeds, either - evidenced by the recent trend for 'handbag' dogs and designer crossbreeds which fetch eye-watering prices.People want dogs for all sorts of reasons, regardless of income or social standing.
Some people will pay £1000 for a puppy of one particular breed. For them, this dog suits them best and this costly barrier to entry to ownership won’t be a problem. Others will take whatever is cheapest – a dog is a dog. There will always be a demand for cheap as possible puppies.
At some point, Staffy puppies became extremely cheap and widely available. This might be because after the pitbull was banned, they were seen as the next closest thing, rightly or wrongly, to meet the demands of certain urban demographics.
Whatever the reason, the Staffy has become overbred by irresponsible breeders, with many simply being given away as puppies. So some dope looks at his dog that he got for free and sees pound signs, failing to see the fallacy he himself is a part of. He finds an equally dumb neighbour with a willing partner dog, and soon he has a litter of pups that he will shortly find out are not worth £100 each. Desperate to get rid of what has now become a responsibility and drain on income that he never wanted, the dogs either end up in a taped up box under a hedge, or in the hands of other idiots. Either way, our “breeder” doesn’t care where they end up.
I was at the SSPCA in Glasgow once chatting to one of the officers, who was introducing me to the most chilled out, friendly, but ugly-as-sin staffys that they had. The guy was a huge fan of the dog and loved him to bits – said he’d have a new home in no time. The heart breaking bit though is how he got there. He was picked up straying, but was chipped so they contacted the owner to come get him. When the owner showed and was told there was a cost of something like £75 to get his dog back, he walked right back out the door saying he could get a brand new puppy for less than that.
My collie is a nightmare, with all sorts of aggression issues that we inherited when we rescued him. I burn with jealousy when I think of the people who were lucky enough to adopt that big Staffy, and all the things they will get to do as dog owners that I never will with my “posh” dog. And yet, his original owner had no issue walking out a door without him because of a £75 charge. It’s this kind of attitude – where dogs are not a responsibility but a piece of furniture or an accessory – that is the problem, not the breed itself.
I'm actually glad that the staffy you saw has made it into the care of the SSPCA, though I feel sorry for the next pup its previous owner obtains.
markh1973 said:
otolith said:
markh1973 said:
It appears to be described as a "Staffordshire Pitbull crossbreed" so I really have no idea what it is.
A mongrel?
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