Man killed by his dog
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36356...
I'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
I'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
PorkInsider said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36356...
I'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
Says he was 45 and it was a pitbull crossI'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
PorkInsider said:
yep a Staffordshire pitbull cross breed bite to the throat game over.PorkInsider said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36356...
I'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
A staffy cross breed? Could be a very strong dog indeed, I wouldn't want to tussle with one.I'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
PorkInsider said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36356...
I'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
You're quite surprised that yet another Staffie has seriously injured - killed in this case - someone. It's the second story in as many weeks.I'm quite surprised by this.
Presumably the man was infirm/very old as I wouldn't have expected a small(ish) dog to be able to kill a grown man, unless it was a bloody huge animal.
Maybe I'm naïve...
rhinochopig said:
You're quite surprised that yet another Staffie has seriously injured - killed in this case - someone. It's the second story in as many weeks.
It's the owners, not the dogs....:roll eyes:(I fail to see any benefit whatsoever in dogs like this. At least in this instance only the owner was harmed).
Murph7355 said:
rhinochopig said:
You're quite surprised that yet another Staffie has seriously injured - killed in this case - someone. It's the second story in as many weeks.
It's the owners, not the dogs....:roll eyes:(I fail to see any benefit whatsoever in dogs like this. At least in this instance only the owner was harmed).
rhinochopig said:
You're quite surprised that yet another Staffie has seriously injured - killed in this case - someone. It's the second story in as many weeks.
It's down to the owner...not the dog in. Makes me sick to the teeth when a dog is blamed for biting someone. That behaviour is, 99% of the time, trained into the dog. Staffies are just the unfortunate breed that certain types like to own as 'status symbols'. I know a lot of staffie owners and their dogs are some of the most affectionate, placid and patient dogs you will come across. Dogs don't kill people, bad owners kill people. So I guess this was suicide. 
Strange how dogs such as Labradors, Retreievers, Collies etc owned by bad owners don't kill babies or young children in this country.
There is no doubt that being a bad owner can be a contributing factor in such deaths but perhaps it's time we looked at other factors too - like the same 4 or 5 breeds which always pop up when we hear about deaths by dog attacks in the UK.
Strange how dogs such as Labradors, Retreievers, Collies etc owned by bad owners don't kill babies or young children in this country.
There is no doubt that being a bad owner can be a contributing factor in such deaths but perhaps it's time we looked at other factors too - like the same 4 or 5 breeds which always pop up when we hear about deaths by dog attacks in the UK.
kentlad said:
rhinochopig said:
You're quite surprised that yet another Staffie has seriously injured - killed in this case - someone. It's the second story in as many weeks.
It's down to the owner...not the dog in. Makes me sick to the teeth when a dog is blamed for biting someone. That behaviour is, 99% of the time, trained into the dog. Staffies are just the unfortunate breed that certain types like to own as 'status symbols'. I know a lot of staffie owners and their dogs are some of the most affectionate, placid and patient dogs you will come across. It's why Labs want to carry things all the time, and bring you stinking things back, and collies like chasing things. Yes you can train a specific trait out / minimise it or make use of it, but it is still there. Staffies are not a sensible family pet, and their genetic traits are not useful in a pet.
Somewhat surprised it wasn't a miniature schnauzer.
Not sure I could bring myself to bite a dog in the throat tbh.
The Spruce goose said:
PorkInsider said:
yep a Staffordshire pitbull cross breed bite to the throat game over.They are chosen by some types because they think they are fierce, they are not, they make poor guard dogs. That's why you never see police or security using them. But by trying to change their natural friendliness towards humans into a fierce aggression (usually by bad training as well) it so often back-fires.
BlackLabel said:
Dogs don't kill people, bad owners kill people. So I guess this was suicide.
Strange how dogs such as Labradors, Retreievers, Collies etc owned by bad owners don't kill babies or young children in this country.
There is no doubt that being a bad owner can be a contributing factor in such deaths but perhaps it's time we looked at other factors too - like the same 4 or 5 breeds which always pop up when we hear about deaths by dog attacks in the UK.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003849/Boy-3-left-horrific-facial-injuries-Labrador-savages-Poole-Harbour.htmlStrange how dogs such as Labradors, Retreievers, Collies etc owned by bad owners don't kill babies or young children in this country.
There is no doubt that being a bad owner can be a contributing factor in such deaths but perhaps it's time we looked at other factors too - like the same 4 or 5 breeds which always pop up when we hear about deaths by dog attacks in the UK.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132912/Ho...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1288786/Fa...
10 seconds of searching on each of your breed.
rhinochopig said:
See my second post. However, dogs are bred for their genetic traits. Staffies were never bred for the kind loving nature. They were bred as fighting dogs. You can tame a Lion but it will still be a lion. Go and watch Born Free and try and argue that a Lion is a sensible family pet.
It's why Labs want to carry things all the time, and bring you stinking things back, and collies like chasing things. Yes you can train a specific trait out / minimise it or make use of it, but it is still there. Staffies are not a sensible family pet, and their genetic traits are not useful in a pet.
Don't be ignorant or scaremonger.It's why Labs want to carry things all the time, and bring you stinking things back, and collies like chasing things. Yes you can train a specific trait out / minimise it or make use of it, but it is still there. Staffies are not a sensible family pet, and their genetic traits are not useful in a pet.
Staffies were bred to fight other dogs, not people. Any which attacked people were removed from the gene pool. They were commonly owned by the working class and lived in a small house with a big family, they are great family pets and the KC register agree with it.
Not that it matters as that was almost 200 years ago and the dog fighting trait is well on it's way of being bred out, by professional breeders anyway. You always see Staffy cross breed attacks and no one stops top think what was the cross, maybe that's the issue? Do your research and you'll find Dachshunds and Collies or more aggressive, they just lack the jaws.
Edited by EnthusiastOwned on Monday 23 May 14:38
Edited by EnthusiastOwned on Monday 23 May 14:41
EnthusiastOwned said:
they just lack the jaws.
This sums it up for me, irrespective of whether they are normally good natured or not Bull Terriers (Staffordshire, Pit) have very strong jaws and muscles generally so can therefore inflict significantly more serious damage on whoever they're attacking. Means you've got less hope of fighting one off or controlling it if it has flipped. To me they are not family pets and I wouldn't have one around my kids. There's no argument that dogs generally can be dangerous if mistreated and children shouldn't be left alone with them but a Chiwawa is less likely to do serious damage. Personally I like dogs but unfortunately don't have the circumstances at the moment to have one as a pet. If I did if would be a lab, retriever or something of a similar nature.
As for the original story, Darwinism at its best. Just a shame the dog had to die due to the d
head owner. EnthusiastOwned said:
rhinochopig said:
See my second post. However, dogs are bred for their genetic traits. Staffies were never bred for the kind loving nature. They were bred as fighting dogs. You can tame a Lion but it will still be a lion. Go and watch Born Free and try and argue that a Lion is a sensible family pet.
It's why Labs want to carry things all the time, and bring you stinking things back, and collies like chasing things. Yes you can train a specific trait out / minimise it or make use of it, but it is still there. Staffies are not a sensible family pet, and their genetic traits are not useful in a pet.
Don't be ignorant or scaremonger.It's why Labs want to carry things all the time, and bring you stinking things back, and collies like chasing things. Yes you can train a specific trait out / minimise it or make use of it, but it is still there. Staffies are not a sensible family pet, and their genetic traits are not useful in a pet.
Staffies were bred to fight other dogs, not people. Any which attacked people were removed from the gene pool. They were commonly owned by the working class and lived in a small house with a big family, they are great family pets and the KC register agree with it.
Not that it matters as that was almost 200 years ago and the dog fighting trait is well on it's way of being bred out, by professional breeders anyway. You always see Staffy cross breed attacks and no one stops top think what was the cross, maybe that's the issue? Do your research and you'll find Dachshunds and Collies or more aggressive, they just lack the jaws.
Edited by EnthusiastOwned on Monday 23 May 14:38
Edited by EnthusiastOwned on Monday 23 May 14:41
And I'll take anything the KC takes with a pinch of salt thanks given the health state of a lot of modern 'pedigree' breeds.
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