Cameron and Osbourne, dead men walking??
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Burwood said:
It may seem odd, paying so much but he is well respected and it's a perk for staff and vip clients. You want someone to attend a function.nroll out a big name. In Osbornes case it's a speech fee but is probably consulting behind the scenes. Good on him. I always thought he was a very smart talented chap. I didn't always agree with his policy
Well put. History will look kindly on both him and Alistair Darling, I suspect.Burwood said:
It may seem odd, paying so much but he is well respected and it's a perk for staff and vip clients. You want someone to attend a function.nroll out a big name. In Osbornes case it's a speech fee but is probably consulting behind the scenes. Good on him. I always thought he was a very smart talented chap. I didn't always agree with his policy
Osbourne a lot more switched on than Cameron, although that's not saying much. Burwood said:
It may seem odd, paying so much but he is well respected and it's a perk for staff and vip clients. You want someone to attend a function.nroll out a big name. In Osbornes case it's a speech fee but is probably consulting behind the scenes. Good on him. I always thought he was a very smart talented chap. I didn't always agree with his policy
The fee isn't the problem.
s!!Newsnight piece just now claiming that CMD approached the Daily Mail owner Lord Rothermere to get the editor of the Mail Paul Dacre sacked because CMD didn't like how the Mail was covering the referendum.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38816692
"The proprietor of the Daily Mail told its editor that David Cameron pressed for him to be sacked during the EU referendum, BBC Newsnight has learned."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38816692
"The proprietor of the Daily Mail told its editor that David Cameron pressed for him to be sacked during the EU referendum, BBC Newsnight has learned."
BlackLabel said:
Newsnight piece just now claiming that CMD approached the Daily Mail owner Lord Rothermere to get the editor of the Mail Paul Dacre sacked because CMD didn't like how the Mail was covering the referendum.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38816692
"The proprietor of the Daily Mail told its editor that David Cameron pressed for him to be sacked during the EU referendum, BBC Newsnight has learned."
How old school, trying to influence the media.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38816692
"The proprietor of the Daily Mail told its editor that David Cameron pressed for him to be sacked during the EU referendum, BBC Newsnight has learned."
Trump has managed to get millions of people to ignore the media completely and he tells them the news directly from his twitter feed.
Ignore the fake news and get the alternative facts directly from Trump.
A few years ago nobody would have thought such a thing was possible
El stovey said:
How old school, trying to influence the media.
Trump has managed to get millions of people to ignore the media completely and he tells them the news directly from his twitter feed.
Ignore the fake news and get the alternative facts directly from Trump.
A few years ago nobody would have thought such a thing was possible
He still plays it old-school too.Trump has managed to get millions of people to ignore the media completely and he tells them the news directly from his twitter feed.
Ignore the fake news and get the alternative facts directly from Trump.
A few years ago nobody would have thought such a thing was possible
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/3...
CrutyRammers said:
Absolutely perfect illustration of Cameron's weakness and desperation there. Talk about out of his depth.
I think you could look at it in many ways. I would never describe Cameron as weak. He came across as affable, genuine etc but the reality is he was probably ruthless, hard nosed and aggressive. You don't get to PM by being weak 
I was initially surprised at this news but now I've had a chance to digest-pah, i can guarantee every MP and senior minister has tried to influence the papers. Lying/cheating (look into my eyes) is a big part of politics because the public don't like bad news and in politics there is always a trade off/balance Burwood said:
I think you could look at it in many ways. I would never describe Cameron as weak. He came across as affable, genuine etc but the reality is he was probably ruthless, hard nosed and aggressive. You don't get to PM by being weak I was initially surprised at this news but now I've had a chance to digest-pah, i can guarantee every MP and senior minister has tried to influence the papers. Lying/cheating (look into my eyes) is a big part of politics because the public don't like bad news and in politics there is always a trade off/balance
I would, he was weak in many ways. I was initially surprised at this news but now I've had a chance to digest-pah, i can guarantee every MP and senior minister has tried to influence the papers. Lying/cheating (look into my eyes) is a big part of politics because the public don't like bad news and in politics there is always a trade off/balance For example, responding to Argentine aggression by hiding behind a referendum which was nothing to do with him, rather than simply telling them to behave or else. His pathetic attempts at renegotiation with the EU. Feeble protests to Spain over their various provocations. He was not a leader, and not nearly as clever a manipulator as he thought he was.
BlackLabel said:
Good. Probably best as would have been embarrassing for him to be kicked out due to his spending 8 days a week lining his pockets (no issues with that before anyone starts. As long as you don't have a full time job from the public purse too). I initially thought he could be the real deal as Chancellor and from there who knows. But he showed his true colours in the run up to 23rd June and both he and Cameron will not be seen massively favourably in the history books IMO.
I wonder how much influence Danny Alexander had 2010-2015. He also struck me as pragmatically sensible and despite his ginger hair I now wonder if he was the more capable incumbent.
BlackLabel said:
Looks better if he quits before losing his seat. Speaking of dead people.....
George Osborne has been criticised after reportedly claiming he will not rest until Theresa May is "chopped up in bags in my freezer". The former Chancellor-turned-newspaper editor made the remark about the Prime Minister "to more than one person", according to a profile in Esquire.
George Osborne has been criticised after reportedly claiming he will not rest until Theresa May is "chopped up in bags in my freezer". The former Chancellor-turned-newspaper editor made the remark about the Prime Minister "to more than one person", according to a profile in Esquire.
telegraph said:
The profile in Esquire highlighted the way Mr Osborne had used his editorship of the London Evening Standard to criticise Mrs May's leadership.
It said: "According to one staffer at the newspaper, Osborne has told more than one person that he will not rest until she 'is chopped up in bags in my freezer'."
It said: "According to one staffer at the newspaper, Osborne has told more than one person that he will not rest until she 'is chopped up in bags in my freezer'."
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