Atheists officially outnumber Christians for the 1st time

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Go on then ajd, I challenge you to quote me verbatim to back up what you've just written about me.

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otolith said:

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What agenda is that? Having believers accept that their beliefs give them no right to dictate how non-believers live their lives? Having believers accept that whether other people find their beliefs ridiculous (and say so) is none of their business?

You've just exposed the hypocrisy of your own argument.

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///ajd said:

Sorry VK I may have mixed your views up with the Efbe post above.

If you agree religion has no special claim on morals, and religion is irrelevant to whether someones moral code is to be judged acceptable, then we are in agreement.

I disagree with you. I think there's a valid discussion to be had first.
Some see religion as a kind of humility. Think of a decision you want to make where you feel you'll gain but someone else will suffer as a result. Now think of what an outsider will think of the situation, putting aside any material desire or profit. That's what most of us do however to some that third person is their God or Jesus for example. To them their God represents only good pure desire, free of the complications that cloud a pure decision. It's a process that benefits some. In that respect do you think that it can be useful?Do you think that the world is perfect enough not to promote that way of thinking? Do you think that, if left to nature, we'd be just lovely? It's just a question.....

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anonymous said:

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My point of disagreeing with your statement does not represent tacit approval of what you've just accused me of. You've got to think less in binary terms otherwise discussion with you will prove a futile task.

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anonymous said:

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You've said that Bob should not be allowed influence over Jim, however Jim can have influence over Bob and that is none of Bob's business. You hardly seem a purveyor of equality and fairness for all!

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otolith said:

They don't have a religion, but there are gods they believe in?

Yes. Spiritual but not religious. They believe in the existence of Gods or higher powers but don't necessarily adhere to any particular religion or wa yof life.