Holiday Trauma - Thomas Cook Airline Crew on strike

Holiday Trauma - Thomas Cook Airline Crew on strike

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crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Sorry hehe I had a wider smile as I typed the post above. Childish I know, but. wink

Otispunkmeyer

12,593 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Jockman said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
Not sure, must depend on the airline, but I know someone who works for Qantas and it seems fairly good. Long haul flight out (albeit looking after business and first class in this case). Then 2-3 days in a nice hotel in a hot place waiting for the return leg and a nice little daily living allowance/stipend to go with it (which apparently most of them do their utmost to save completely rather than actually use it). For 12 hours working the aisle twice a week its not that bad.
The Thomas Cook example is more applicable....

"Unite said a cabin crew member will typically work 10 to 15 hour shifts and up to 60 hours a week.
Duties include pre-flight preparations, safety and security checks, passenger boarding, in-flight service of headsets, drinks, food, duty free sales and other promotions, such as scratch cards."
Right, sounds a bit more RyanAir then (scratch cards). So quick turn-a-rounds. Yeah doesn't sound especially nice to have to do all that, turn around in a couple of hours and do it all again for 20 mins rest.

Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Surely know one really expects people to work a fifteen hour shift on a planned basis

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Gargamel said:
Surely know one really expects people to work a fifteen hour shift on a planned basis
Welcome to EASA. New European aviatiion rules. People complained about it years ago but all our MPs went along with it and said it was just fine.

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Gargamel said:
Surely know one really expects people to work a fifteen hour shift on a planned basis
I think you find that there's quite a few airline staff on shifts around 15 hours - in early (5am ?) ready for the first flights out and not off again until about 8pm (?) after the early evening rush.

Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Robertj21a said:
I think you find that there's quite a few airline staff on shifts around 15 hours - in early (5am ?) ready for the first flights out and not off again until about 8pm (?) after the early evening rush.
Well colour me surprised.

Not least that many employees would accept those terms. They seem unnecessary, it would make more sense to have a greater total workforce working less hours. I accept the training costs would be higher, but I suspect they must have additional staff anyway, since Working Time Directive would kick in fairly quickly on repeated 15 hour shifts.

Is it one of those where if you pull 15 hours you don't work the next day ?

Wacky Racer

38,162 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Greg_D said:
isn't most of the flight a break???
whatever flight i'm on, short or long haul they spend most of it gassing in the galley...
Gasoline galley

speedchick

5,176 posts

222 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Jockman said:
I know that Emirates have a clever clock in system for their cabin crew. When the wheels leave the ground, pay starts. When the wheels touch the ground again, pay stops.

Stuck on the tarmac, waiting an hour? No pay.
Ryanair is the same, wheels up to wheels down is pay time.

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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speedchick said:
Ryanair is the same, wheels up to wheels down is pay time.
As an aside, in the last 12 months I've flown with Ethiad, Virgin, Emirates, Monarch and Thompson.

The best cabin crew service I received was with Thompson, with Monarch not far behind. Perhaps I just expected that bit more from the others and it wasn't forthcoming.

pushthebutton

1,097 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Jockman said:
As an aside, in the last 12 months I've flown with Ethiad, Virgin, Emirates, Monarch and Thompson.

The best cabin crew service I received was with Thompson...
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOQRSTUVWXYZ biggrin

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Jockman said:
As an aside, in the last 12 months I've flown with Ethiad, Virgin, Emirates, Monarch and Thompson.

The best cabin crew service I received was with Thompson, with Monarch not far behind. Perhaps I just expected that bit more from the others and it wasn't forthcoming.
BA World Traveller is unbelievably inconsistent. It varies between just about acceptable and 'how the hell did she get a job working with customers'.

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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hehe

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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What does our aviation regulator say about such things? I assume there are rules about breaks for pilots, cabin crew etc.