Racism and Brexit...

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TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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REALIST123 said:
You must be very easily confused.
Maybe. But at least I'm not easily outraged.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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It's a very strange advert. I think it might convince more people who identify closer with the white man than the funny dressed foreigner to vote, probably out. This presumably wasn't the intention.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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TTwiggy said:
REALIST123 said:
You must be very easily confused.
Maybe. But at least I'm not easily outraged.
rofl

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Rick101 said:
Is India in the EUconfused
Yes, once Iran to agrees to schengen wink

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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That's pretty low, even by the standards of our National stecaster.

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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A quick check of their site doesn't reveal their position either way.

Apparently according to Saatchi x2 who did the ad, the see saw is just to represent that she has an equal vote to the nazi type thug - so use your vote.

It was initially confusing and I wasn't sure if they were trying to imply thug=racist=brexit, but perhaps they are trying to be clever and let your prejudices think that* whilst infact not explicitly saying that at all.



  • of course not there is no clear correlation between brexiters & racists, but it cannot be denied there is some association, whether it is considered fair label/tag or not for at least some brexiters (notably those obsessed with immigration, & they do exist) is another matter.

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Operation Black Vote.
Well, if that's the best ad Saatchi & Saatchi can come up with for them, drawing boards and go back to them spring to mind.

S&S state that the pair are seated on a see-saw – demonstrating the balance of their equivalent power.

Really? Dicks! The thug, whoever he is meant to represent, virtually has his f. feet on the ground, while the lady whoever she is meant to represent is balanced ...f precariously!

Dick & Dick - advertising agency.

Where is Operation White Vote by the way?

rpguk

4,465 posts

284 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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grumbledoak said:
That's pretty low, even by the standards of our National stecaster.
Who? confused

Ian Geary

4,487 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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So, the use of racial stereotypes is OK now?

That's good to know. I obviously didn't get that memo after all the equality training I've done through work urging me to avoid racial stereotypes, especially negative ones.



I wonder if a Leave campaign racial stereotype of say, an Eastern European begger? or an African economic migrant would be dismissed as mere "imagary" for "people to take whatever interpretation they like" from...


If people believe that, then they're either naieve, trolling for the purposes of an argument, or just fooling themselves.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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I think the thug is a eastern european criminal who wants to remain , the lady is hoping for a leave vote so a points based immigration system will allow her family to recruit chefs for
their chain of curry houses from anywhere in the world ....



Edited by powerstroke on Wednesday 25th May 18:58

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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TTwiggy said:
This latest outrage confuses me. It's a campaign aimed at urging non-whites to vote. It is not a campaign designed to make them vote one way or another. So I fail to see how this is an example of 'dirty tricks' by the Remain camp.
You must be very easily confused.

skahigh

2,023 posts

131 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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TTwiggy said:
I'd say the woman on the left is .... non-European
laugh Oh the irony.

How did you come to that conclusion? A racial stereotype by any chance? What would lead you to believe that she was not born and raised in Europe and would by most definitions be considered European?

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Dan_1981 said:
Operation Black Vote????
to encourage BME british peoplewho are eligible to vote but aren;t currently registered / don;t exercise their vote ...

just as there are targetted campaigns for students etc ...

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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I think the above few posts show why it is actually quite a clever ad.

You are free to imagine/assume the people are whoever you want, on any side you want.

That's why it is only you as the viewer that can draw the "wrong" or inappropriate inference from it, based on your own prejudices.

The advert clearly just says "use your vote" and nothing else. The viewer is the only one who superimposes outrage or indignation at whether it is saying anything controversial.





mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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///ajd said:
I think the above few posts show why it is actually quite a clever ad.

You are free to imagine/assume the people are whoever you want, on any side you want.

That's why it is only you as the viewer that can draw the "wrong" or inappropriate inference from it, based on your own prejudices.

The advert clearly just says "use your vote" and nothing else. The viewer is the only one who superimposes outrage or indignation at whether it is saying anything controversial.
exactly , and ergo far too clever for many PHers

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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I am probably going to regret asking but going to anyway.

Why are the 2 people in different poses? or is it my prejudices that see 1 appear to be passive and the other aggressive?

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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fk me, who the fk invented racism any way everything we say or do if not agreed by one side its racism , sick of it.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Smiler. said:
TTwiggy said:
REALIST123 said:
You must be very easily confused.
Maybe. But at least I'm not easily outraged.
rofl
Have another rofl

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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mph1977 said:
///ajd said:
I think the above few posts show why it is actually quite a clever ad.

You are free to imagine/assume the people are whoever you want, on any side you want.

That's why it is only you as the viewer that can draw the "wrong" or inappropriate inference from it, based on your own prejudices.

The advert clearly just says "use your vote" and nothing else. The viewer is the only one who superimposes outrage or indignation at whether it is saying anything controversial.
exactly , and ergo far too clever for many PHers
Well it's worked if it gets more 'blacks' to vote but I'm not convinced it's particularly clever if it ,rightly or wrongly, makes us thickie 'whites' resent being depicted by a 'black' group like that. The irony is I'll wager most skin head types probably arn't registered to vote either, maybe they will be inspired to join the democratic process by the same image!

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Wednesday 25th May 2016
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Dan_1981 said:
Operation Black Vote????
I love the BBC article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

"This is a message about democracy, not a message about race."

Erm "operation black vote", 'white skinhead thug berating an elderly indian lady' ..........it kinda is about race isn't it?