What will the turnout be at the EU referendum?
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80% turnout.
Too close to call right now. Head says it will be Remain, but I dunno, it could be out. Either way it's despite the Leave designate effort (patchy), and would be in spite of Remains scaremongering and skullduggery.
I hope it's not really close, like by less than the number who have registered since the website "broke down".
Too close to call right now. Head says it will be Remain, but I dunno, it could be out. Either way it's despite the Leave designate effort (patchy), and would be in spite of Remains scaremongering and skullduggery.
I hope it's not really close, like by less than the number who have registered since the website "broke down".
Tony427 said:
jsf said:
cloggy said:
Been here 34 years but still have Dutch nationality so have my son and daughter so we can't vote.
Ridiculous, you take our taxes but no representation for us.
Luckily Mrs Cloggy (who is British) will vote Out, she lived in Holland for 13 years and speaks fluent Dutch.
Nearly all of our Dutch family and friends want a referendum too to vote out.
That must tell you something.
Feck the EU corrupt politicians vote the feckers out (good bye Junkers, Kinnocks, Mandelson, etc, etc,)
It's not rediculous. Apply for UK citizenship if voting matters to you, no one is stopping you. Ridiculous, you take our taxes but no representation for us.
Luckily Mrs Cloggy (who is British) will vote Out, she lived in Holland for 13 years and speaks fluent Dutch.
Nearly all of our Dutch family and friends want a referendum too to vote out.
That must tell you something.
Feck the EU corrupt politicians vote the feckers out (good bye Junkers, Kinnocks, Mandelson, etc, etc,)
The Dutch as a nation are the most stoic of people. You would no more ask a Dutchman to give up their nationality than you would ask a clergyman to renounce their religion.
If they could get out from under the EU yoke they would. But as the EU said following the last referendum in Holland, "they are only 24 million people they don't matter."
Cheers,
Tony
The UK and the Netherlands allow dual citizenship. The Dutch are the more restrictive on limiting dual nationality but as he would be aquiring the nationality of his partner that is allowed under Dutch law.
Years and years ago, in the full darkness of time there used to be a programme called " Opportunity Knocks" a talent show presented by a fake mid atlantic american called Hughie Green.
Each act was voted for by the " Clapometer".
No it wasn't the apparatus of the local STD clinic but a simple measure of how loudly the studio audience clapped for each act. ( oh God this is making me feel old).
If you use that simple measure I think that in all discussion programmes since the announcement of the referendum the leave support has been significantly greater then the remain support. People clap more for Leave.
Indeed many people have commented that the usual studio audience bias in favour if lefty, liberal supporters has been refreshigly lacking in many discussion programmes. Suprisingly so.
Now the BBC or other broadcasters can skew a few programmes but they cannot skew them all and I have detected a significant unplanned bias in the studio audience towards the Brexit camp in many different programmes.
In my completely unscientific appraisal I believe that the Leave vote is seriously under-reported or under anticipated.
The general population is mightly pissed off with the establishment so this could very well be the " f... off moment" in British politics.
Bring back the clapometer I say !!
Cheers,
Tony
Each act was voted for by the " Clapometer".
No it wasn't the apparatus of the local STD clinic but a simple measure of how loudly the studio audience clapped for each act. ( oh God this is making me feel old).
If you use that simple measure I think that in all discussion programmes since the announcement of the referendum the leave support has been significantly greater then the remain support. People clap more for Leave.
Indeed many people have commented that the usual studio audience bias in favour if lefty, liberal supporters has been refreshigly lacking in many discussion programmes. Suprisingly so.
Now the BBC or other broadcasters can skew a few programmes but they cannot skew them all and I have detected a significant unplanned bias in the studio audience towards the Brexit camp in many different programmes.
In my completely unscientific appraisal I believe that the Leave vote is seriously under-reported or under anticipated.
The general population is mightly pissed off with the establishment so this could very well be the " f... off moment" in British politics.
Bring back the clapometer I say !!
Cheers,
Tony
I am sorry to say that my joke from a few weeks ago on another thread regarding tin foil hats etc is now, to me anyway, not looking like such a joke.
After seeing who is becoming involved in the remain campaign and their connections I am left in no doubt that no matter what the bollot boxes actually say their will officially be just enough votes to remain - there are too many people with noses in the trough in positions of great power to allow the Brexit vote to win.
After seeing who is becoming involved in the remain campaign and their connections I am left in no doubt that no matter what the bollot boxes actually say their will officially be just enough votes to remain - there are too many people with noses in the trough in positions of great power to allow the Brexit vote to win.
PorkInsider said:
Definitely agree with that ^^
I also think it will be like the general election: the incredibly vocal (read loud-mouthed) lefty population making all the noise on social media while the more right-leaning kept quiet.
When it comes to the EU vote it seems to be that on Twitter, etc, people feel confident shouting about supporting 'Leave' but the 'Remainers' are less vocal.
Just my perception but I think it will be proved correct.
I'm undecided still, myself...
I'm finding it far more balanced on the volume of sides this time round vs the Scottish referendum.I also think it will be like the general election: the incredibly vocal (read loud-mouthed) lefty population making all the noise on social media while the more right-leaning kept quiet.
When it comes to the EU vote it seems to be that on Twitter, etc, people feel confident shouting about supporting 'Leave' but the 'Remainers' are less vocal.
Just my perception but I think it will be proved correct.
I'm undecided still, myself...
I've got a pretty broad spectrum of friends and acquaintances across facebook and both sides seem equally represented amongst those being vocal.
The vehement 45 believe we're better together this time round [and it has provided a nice break from their banging on about indyref2]. There are some notable exceptions but definitely more leaning towards remain.
The school alumni and work colleagues are 50/50.
Most folk from down south seem to want out.
Most interesting contrast for me has been one who is now an ex-pat in the south of Spain who is very much shouting for the remain side, against someone who is in the process of becoming an ex-pat in Spain who is shouting for out.
hedgefinder said:
I am sorry to say that my joke from a few weeks ago on another thread regarding tin foil hats etc is now, to me anyway, not looking like such a joke.
After seeing who is becoming involved in the remain campaign and their connections I am left in no doubt that no matter what the bollot boxes actually say their will officially be just enough votes to remain - there are too many people with noses in the trough in positions of great power to allow the Brexit vote to win.
The notion that 'people' will somehow rig the vote is of course completely insane. Not least because the 'people' in power are split down the middle on which camp they sit in.After seeing who is becoming involved in the remain campaign and their connections I am left in no doubt that no matter what the bollot boxes actually say their will officially be just enough votes to remain - there are too many people with noses in the trough in positions of great power to allow the Brexit vote to win.
However, I do have a friend that works in electoral services in a LA so I do have a bit of an inside track on the crisis that is is going on behind the scenes at the moment. The system did indeed break when it became overloaded and the issue everybody is having at the moment is that there are people out there who have actually managed to register twice, so in effect have the opportunity to vote twice.
It's been caused by the absurd message that you have to register to vote in the referendum as opposed you need to be registered on the electoral role to vote in the referendum. As a result, people who are already on the electoral role have registered again online, meaning that they are double counted. So I am sure that all of the tinfoil brigade can take great comfort that the three people in each of the LA's across the UK are manually checking every one of the millions of voters to ensure that nobody gets to vote twice
Tony427 said:
Years and years ago, in the full darkness of time there used to be a programme called " Opportunity Knocks" a talent show presented by a fake mid atlantic american called Hughie Green.
Each act was voted for by the " Clapometer".
No it wasn't the apparatus of the local STD clinic but a simple measure of how loudly the studio audience clapped for each act. ( oh God this is making me feel old).
Bring back the clapometer I say !!
I seem to recall the "clapometer" subsequently being revealed as being controlled by an "engineer" twiddling a dial in back of the studio and had nothing to do with the "clapping" at all.................but could be wrong.Each act was voted for by the " Clapometer".
No it wasn't the apparatus of the local STD clinic but a simple measure of how loudly the studio audience clapped for each act. ( oh God this is making me feel old).
Bring back the clapometer I say !!
I unreservedly apologise for anyone who has taken offence at what I've said, and I also apologise for using the word 'correct'. Correct is the wrong word, completely valid would be the correct term.
All I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
All I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
Calletrece said:
I unreservedly apologise for anyone who has taken offence at what I've said, and I also apologise for using the word 'correct'. Correct is the wrong word, completely valid would be the correct term.
All I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
fAll I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
k you, asshole.Calletrece said:
I unreservedly apologise for anyone who has taken offence at what I've said, and I also apologise for using the word 'correct'. Correct is the wrong word, completely valid would be the correct term.
All I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
The women's just died and you phase it 'as she's just kicked the bucket' then proceed to make it about the referendum.All I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
Sort it out fella.
Calletrece said:
I unreservedly apologise for anyone who has taken offence at what I've said, and I also apologise for using the word 'correct'. Correct is the wrong word, completely valid would be the correct term.
All I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
What you said was inexcusable in a nutshell "there is another vote lost for leave" I initially thought it was black humour All I did was say 'rest in peace' and hoped that the outcome would be positive to country of such a shameful and disgusting act.
A lot people have been quick to judge by reading things I haven't said.
More disgusting still is to deny someone a right to have a completely valid opinion (that this is a disgusting act, and she should rest in peace) or to respond to vile abuse directed at me.
It's true what they say, the higher ground is a lonely place.
SmoothCriminal said:
The women's just died and you phase it 'as she's just kicked the bucket' then proceed to make it about the referendum.
Sort it out fella.
Well she did kick the bucket. FACT. Sort it out fella.
She was in the middle of a referendum campaign when it happened. FACT.
I'm sorry if you're that upset about the referendum, but no need to get your knickers in a twist. Fingers crossed something good comes of this unfortunate event, and it wasn't all wasted, eh?
I said RIP, I don't know what more you sensitive, faux-outraged, humour by-passed mob want.
Edit: Not something ideally to bring into this thread, however, if someone is denied perfectly reasonable free speech elsewhere on the site, it's only reasonable to respond directly to the intial abuse from the poster I called out. Apologies to anyone if this is a bit off topic
Cheers.
Calletrece said:
SmoothCriminal said:
The women's just died and you phase it 'as she's just kicked the bucket' then proceed to make it about the referendum.
Sort it out fella.
Well she did kick the bucket. FACT. Sort it out fella.
She was in the middle of a referendum campaign when it happened. FACT.
I'm sorry if you're that upset about the referendum, but no need to get your knickers in a twist. Fingers crossed something good comes of this unfortunate event, and it wasn't all wasted, eh?
I said RIP, I don't know what more you sensitive, faux-outraged, humour by-passed mob want.
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