Gorilla Shot Dead At Cincinnati Zoo After Child Falls Into E

Gorilla Shot Dead At Cincinnati Zoo After Child Falls Into E

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saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Gorilla saves kid from moat

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36407643

beeb said:
Protective

In a similar incident in 1986 on the island of Jersey, a Crown dependency of the UK, a five-year-old boy fell into a gorilla enclosure.

He lost consciousness and a silverback gorilla called Jambo famously stood guard over him, protecting him from other gorillas and stroking his back. When the boy came round he started to cry and the gorillas retreated, allowing keepers to rescue the child, Levan Merritt.
This one was shot?

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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What a brave kid - he was so calm despite looking up to Harambe:




And the Mum keeps on shouting "mummy's right here, mummy's right here' - it's a shame she wasn't 'right here' when her son got into the moat in the first place.

A horrible story all round but I don't blame the zoo for doing what they did - even a playful slap or punch by the gorilla could have killed the child.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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A shame they killed the gorilla.

nellyleelephant

2,705 posts

234 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Mastodon2 said:
A shame they killed the gorilla.
Massive shame, but what choice did they have?
One things for sure, the zoo is going to have some serious official types trying to find out how this was able to happen.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Total waste, but even if the poor Gorilla meant no harm, if it had carried on dragging the kid around like that, he would have ripped his arm off at the very least.

jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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I immediately felt sorry for the gorilla. He was minding his own business (whilst being held captive by 'us') and then he gets shot for it. I cant see how thats fair?

Poor parenting

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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The parents should be shot too. Or transported to the planet of the apes for vengeance.

A kid is a kid and the parents are responsible. No matter what anyone says, even if there were gaping holes in the enclosure. The child should never have been allowed to fall in.

I have a daughter who is nearly two. She is into everything and toddles everywhere and picks things up without a thought. If I went to a zoo with her, she wouldn't be climbing on anything (unless it was specific play equipment). As every parent knows, kids need constant attention. I wonder if the parents of the child in question were busy updating their social media feeds about the wonderful time they were having at the zoo.

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Cincinnati Zoo is the second oldest zoo in the USA. It's got a pretty good reputation for its breeding programs, including for the Western Lowland Gorilla such as the silverback shot today and is not some lackadaisical back street operation. They will be gutted this has happened.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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nellyleelephant said:
Massive shame, but what choice did they have?
One things for sure, the zoo is going to have some serious official types trying to find out how this was able to happen.
None really, it's appalling that some feckless parent let their feckless child into the enclosure.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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saaby93 said:
Wozy68 said:
Maybe I have t seen all the video but to me it seemed that it dragged the child to the safety of the shallows .
looks same to me
Looked that way to me as well. Big nasty killer gorilla just seemed to drag the child (somewhat unceremoniously) into the safety of the shallows and then stood over him.

Worth a watch. and certainly Mr Attenborough didn't have a problem with them.

I think it is hard coded into primates to protect children and the only person that deserved to get shot that day was the parents.







Jasandjules

69,885 posts

229 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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I am somewhat confused.

Had the animal wanted to hurt the child it would have done so long before the point they shot it?!?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Jasandjules said:
I am somewhat confused.

Had the animal wanted to hurt the child it would have done so long before the point they shot it?!?
I think I Heard an interview with the head keeper... IIRC they were concerned about the animal's reaction to a tranquiliser dart and the time it would have taken to be effective. Hence the "quick" solution.

Some bloody serious questions need to answered on how it could have happened in the 1st place.


evoivboy

928 posts

146 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Eric Mc said:
And then shot the parents - and maybe all the other humans in the zoo while he was at it.

It would be known as "The Great Cincinnati Zoo Gorilla Massacre".

In a slightly less silly vein, when Jersey Zoo had a similar incident over 30 years ago, the outcome was much less disturbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-CMxMv34_A
Remember it well, i work with the lads mother!

Raine Man

104 posts

98 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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I'd like to say 'at least the boy survived' but with the current numbers (7 billion humans to 100k gorillas) it's a lose-lose situation. It's not shocking when you see how our population boom has influenced the animal world:



As a species we have come up with plenty of highly innovative ideas on how to utilise the land & materials around us but have taken too long to look at the longer term impact and possible alternatives. Nobody would accept a move back to a simpler time, so I fear the damage has been done!

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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TheExcession said:
saaby93 said:
Wozy68 said:
Maybe I have t seen all the video but to me it seemed that it dragged the child to the safety of the shallows .
looks same to me
Looked that way to me as well. Big nasty killer gorilla just seemed to drag the child (somewhat unceremoniously) into the safety of the shallows and then stood over him.

Worth a watch. and certainly Mr Attenborough didn't have a problem with them.

I think it is hard coded into primates to protect children and the only person that deserved to get shot that day was the parents.
Unless there's something we haven't seen, doesn't the gorilla looks like its looking after the child.
Even if it wasnt, surely the prime function of the zoo is to protect the gorilla over some wayward human?
Haven't there been other cases where the animal has killed someone who's got too close but it doesn't mean the loss of the animal.

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Doesn't an incident like this bugger up the structure/hierarchy etc of a gorilla "family" too? They and the zoo will have that to cope with.

iphonedyou

9,250 posts

157 months

Sunday 29th May 2016
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Few people above saying they should have tranquillised the gorilla. This whole situation is desperately sad, but a tranquilliser isn't the answer given it takes up to 20 minutes to work.

bayleaf

285 posts

99 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Hopefully it's out the gorilla out of the misery and depression it was probably in.

Mabbs9

1,082 posts

218 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Even if a tranquilliser was fast acting, a 400lb gorilla falling on the kid wouldn't particularly help.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Seeing that poor Gorilla was very sad. I'll not go to a zoo again for sure.