Gorilla Shot Dead At Cincinnati Zoo After Child Falls Into E
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The Mad Monk said:
PurpleTurtle said:
A life-affirming event,
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5ohmustang said:
No i'd just say he is a dumb ass. Total innocence? Are you a liberal?
The parents should have been watching their kid, dumb asses. The zoo should review their enclosure, no spectator should be able to get in. Ultimately it was the child's bad decision making. He nearly failed in life and it would be prudent for him to learn from his mistakes.
Unfortunately since this story has gained so much attention more than Hiliaries failed presidential campaign, I am sure the family will be on every day time liberal douche bag talk show hosted by a bunch of butch dykes. Sympathy will be poured on the family and it will be somehow turned into another race issue. Somehow as they have done with everything else, they will jump on the band wagon and link the Gorilla, the child into some "lets all be ashamed to be white crap" "the animals in the zoos are slaves." People have lost their minds.
GorillasLivesMatters
Lol wut?The parents should have been watching their kid, dumb asses. The zoo should review their enclosure, no spectator should be able to get in. Ultimately it was the child's bad decision making. He nearly failed in life and it would be prudent for him to learn from his mistakes.
Unfortunately since this story has gained so much attention more than Hiliaries failed presidential campaign, I am sure the family will be on every day time liberal douche bag talk show hosted by a bunch of butch dykes. Sympathy will be poured on the family and it will be somehow turned into another race issue. Somehow as they have done with everything else, they will jump on the band wagon and link the Gorilla, the child into some "lets all be ashamed to be white crap" "the animals in the zoos are slaves." People have lost their minds.
GorillasLivesMatters
Edited by 5ohmustang on Tuesday 31st May 07:02
Sheets Tabuer said:
5ohmustang said:
No i'd just say he is a dumb ass. Total innocence? Are you a liberal?
The parents should have been watching their kid, dumb asses. The zoo should review their enclosure, no spectator should be able to get in. Ultimately it was the child's bad decision making. He nearly failed in life and it would be prudent for him to learn from his mistakes.
Unfortunately since this story has gained so much attention more than Hiliaries failed presidential campaign, I am sure the family will be on every day time liberal douche bag talk show hosted by a bunch of butch dykes. Sympathy will be poured on the family and it will be somehow turned into another race issue. Somehow as they have done with everything else, they will jump on the band wagon and link the Gorilla, the child into some "lets all be ashamed to be white crap" "the animals in the zoos are slaves." People have lost their minds.
GorillasLivesMatters
Lol wut?The parents should have been watching their kid, dumb asses. The zoo should review their enclosure, no spectator should be able to get in. Ultimately it was the child's bad decision making. He nearly failed in life and it would be prudent for him to learn from his mistakes.
Unfortunately since this story has gained so much attention more than Hiliaries failed presidential campaign, I am sure the family will be on every day time liberal douche bag talk show hosted by a bunch of butch dykes. Sympathy will be poured on the family and it will be somehow turned into another race issue. Somehow as they have done with everything else, they will jump on the band wagon and link the Gorilla, the child into some "lets all be ashamed to be white crap" "the animals in the zoos are slaves." People have lost their minds.
GorillasLivesMatters
Edited by 5ohmustang on Tuesday 31st May 07:02
Ken Figenus said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: What would you do if it was your child and you had a tranquiliser gun and a real gun to hand?
Hope to use one before the other. Yes of course he could have harmed the child but he didn't and he hadn't - that helps informs choice. If it was a Baboon/Lion etc I wouldn't be saying this, but it was a Gorilla. A dead one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1--uIZf5uY
The chimp that ripped the face of the woman, there's issues when male chimps are around other adults, especially women.
A silverback gorilla and the kid is a different situation, from the video, the kid didn't took in danger.
The zoo have failed in most regards here, what happens from a governing point of view now?
A silverback gorilla and the kid is a different situation, from the video, the kid didn't took in danger.
The zoo have failed in most regards here, what happens from a governing point of view now?
Edited by Halb on Tuesday 31st May 20:56
I have studied Chimps and there are clear signs of aggression and agitation in body language and sounds, which any qualified person could understand.
I think in this case the ape wasn't being aggressive, signs of distress but didn't deserve to die. They should have used distraction techniques first.
I think in this case the ape wasn't being aggressive, signs of distress but didn't deserve to die. They should have used distraction techniques first.
I think this has suffered the same social media angst that happens whenever some white priviliged American goes off to shoot a Lion entrely legally.
The animal did nothing it wouldn't have been expected to (IE: it did nothing "wrong"), but on the basis of a cost/benefit analysis, the downside of overkill was miniscule compared to the downside of any less binary solution, so it was a no brainer.
But shooting a gorilla is seen in a low light by the same people who eat deathcamp pigs, chicken and cows every other day, because they think of them in some anthropomorphic way and they have a keyboard to hand.
The animal was dealt a st hand when the kid fell into its pen, no doubt, but worse things are happening every day with our governments (and by extension our) consent that few care ennough to post about.
The animal did nothing it wouldn't have been expected to (IE: it did nothing "wrong"), but on the basis of a cost/benefit analysis, the downside of overkill was miniscule compared to the downside of any less binary solution, so it was a no brainer.
But shooting a gorilla is seen in a low light by the same people who eat deathcamp pigs, chicken and cows every other day, because they think of them in some anthropomorphic way and they have a keyboard to hand.
The animal was dealt a s
t hand when the kid fell into its pen, no doubt, but worse things are happening every day with our governments (and by extension our) consent that few care ennough to post about.Some comments are proper quality!
According to winesses the little nob wanted to get "in the water" and was arguing with his mum. When I first saw the video, I though that the parents were first class retarded thunder vaginas. Looks like I wasn't far off, as the father has a "lengthy criminal history". I don't really care about the gorilla as I didn't know him and I'm sure he wouldn't give a flying f*** about me either. What irritates me, is the stupid parents not disciplining their stupid spoilt kids, probably the same kind of people that let their kids run around and play football on the roads near where I live. I know some parents would risk their own life for their kids, didn't see daddy or mummy jumping to the rescue on this one! They must have though the gorilla was going to adopt the kid and pay for his private school. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed in zoos, shame they didn't shoot the parents too.
Loving all the Gorilla lives matter, 1 minute of silence for the great Harambe (who dedicated his life to helping the poor, fight injustice and donated to numerous charities) and the ones like "authorities should have put 15 feet concrete walls, electric fencing and armed guards" type of comments.
According to winesses the little nob wanted to get "in the water" and was arguing with his mum. When I first saw the video, I though that the parents were first class retarded thunder vaginas. Looks like I wasn't far off, as the father has a "lengthy criminal history". I don't really care about the gorilla as I didn't know him and I'm sure he wouldn't give a flying f*** about me either. What irritates me, is the stupid parents not disciplining their stupid spoilt kids, probably the same kind of people that let their kids run around and play football on the roads near where I live. I know some parents would risk their own life for their kids, didn't see daddy or mummy jumping to the rescue on this one! They must have though the gorilla was going to adopt the kid and pay for his private school. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed in zoos, shame they didn't shoot the parents too.
Loving all the Gorilla lives matter, 1 minute of silence for the great Harambe (who dedicated his life to helping the poor, fight injustice and donated to numerous charities) and the ones like "authorities should have put 15 feet concrete walls, electric fencing and armed guards" type of comments.
glazbagun said:
But shooting a gorilla is seen in a low light by the same people who eat deathcamp pigs, chicken and cows every other day, because they think of them in some anthropomorphic way and they have a keyboard to hand.
Anthropomorphic is sometimes a misapplied term. Once Humans were considered above the other animals, and any sort of 'bestowing' of 'human' traits onto the other animals was called anthropomorphising, Johnny Morris used to get told off for it. 
Mostly it came from religion. But as humans learn more about the other animals, especially the ones that are close in intelligence, it's clear that there are traits that are shared amongst certain animals, and are not exclusive to humans alone, quite a few animal societies are now recognised as cultures and anthropomorphising becomes less accurate with regards to some traits.Edited by Halb on Tuesday 31st May 23:05
vkcs22 said:
Some comments are proper quality!
According to winesses the little nob wanted to get "in the water" and was arguing with his mum. When I first saw the video, I though that the parents were first class retarded thunder vaginas. Looks like I wasn't far off, as the father has a "lengthy criminal history". I don't really care about the gorilla as I didn't know him and I'm sure he wouldn't give a flying f*** about me either. What irritates me, is the stupid parents not disciplining their stupid spoilt kids, probably the same kind of people that let their kids run around and play football on the roads near where I live. I know some parents would risk their own life for their kids, didn't see daddy or mummy jumping to the rescue on this one! They must have though the gorilla was going to adopt the kid and pay for his private school. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed in zoos, shame they didn't shoot the parents too.
Loving all the Gorilla lives matter, 1 minute of silence for the great Harambe (who dedicated his life to helping the poor, fight injustice and donated to numerous charities) and the ones like "authorities should have put 15 feet concrete walls, electric fencing and armed guards" type of comments.
I think what annoys people most is that this was totally avoidable.According to winesses the little nob wanted to get "in the water" and was arguing with his mum. When I first saw the video, I though that the parents were first class retarded thunder vaginas. Looks like I wasn't far off, as the father has a "lengthy criminal history". I don't really care about the gorilla as I didn't know him and I'm sure he wouldn't give a flying f*** about me either. What irritates me, is the stupid parents not disciplining their stupid spoilt kids, probably the same kind of people that let their kids run around and play football on the roads near where I live. I know some parents would risk their own life for their kids, didn't see daddy or mummy jumping to the rescue on this one! They must have though the gorilla was going to adopt the kid and pay for his private school. Stupid people shouldn't be allowed in zoos, shame they didn't shoot the parents too.
Loving all the Gorilla lives matter, 1 minute of silence for the great Harambe (who dedicated his life to helping the poor, fight injustice and donated to numerous charities) and the ones like "authorities should have put 15 feet concrete walls, electric fencing and armed guards" type of comments.
Ken Figenus said:
Staggeringly sad they didn't even try a tranquiliser - albeit with a rifle in the other hand to take swift action if this did actually cause him to start harming the child. The precedent is there that they can be quite approachable by fully grown men, so a child would pose less of a threat I guess. Looks a decision taken behind closed doors conceptually not one based on observing him. The 'what if' was greater than the 'what was'?
You know there was a human child at risk of death or serious Injury don't you. They had no option. Edited by Ken Figenus on Tuesday 31st May 18:27
Things went bad they had a problem they had to resolve instantly.
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