Gorilla Shot Dead At Cincinnati Zoo After Child Falls Into E

Gorilla Shot Dead At Cincinnati Zoo After Child Falls Into E

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Oakey

27,581 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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vkcs22 said:
What a load of rubbish. So you blame the kids from the Alton Towers incident?????

Are you right in the head?
No of course I don't. Are you right in the head?

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
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Murph7355 said:
There's a duty of care on the zoo as a paying attraction that's designed to attract kids.

This does not absolve parents of responsibility. If it could be genetically sorted I'd happily support people having to take tests before being allowed to have kids, seeing some the fkwittery some "parents" indulge in. But that doesn't alter the fact that this zoo's measures were quite obviously not sufficient in this instance. And the gorilla paid the price - the zoo failed in its duty of care of the gorilla as much as the visitor.
I'm with you sMurph. The ultimate DOC is with the zoo. The parent's behaviour could be used in mitigation only but I'm sure Insurers are waiting with bated breath for the Investigation Report.

Out of Court settlement, undisclosed sum, would be my guess.

croyde

22,917 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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I have not read through the whole thread but is there a picture of how/where the kid got in?

Oakey

27,581 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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There is today





http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/zoo-blamed...

Edited by Oakey on Thursday 2nd June 15:06

AnotherClarkey

3,596 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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Ken Figenus said:
It is interesting Jacko - I discourage my kids from thrill rides based on the risk/reward whilst others wouldn't bat an eyelid to push them on a thrill ride that is maintained by exactly whom (esp outside the corporate parks)? Then a toddler falling into a Gorilla enclosure would also have been lower down on my list of one things in a million to avoid mind.
I have never understood how risk management can work with thrill rides either. There is no real benefit so how is any level of risk acceptable?

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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Just another case of too many guns in the US I'm afraid.

In the UK the keeper would have jumped in and led the gorilla away peacefully, perhaps brandishing nothing more than something very edible.

Although said with sense of humour it sadly does have a ring of truth about it.

Only in america


Sheets Tabuer

18,963 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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Gandahar said:
perhaps brandishing nothing more than something very edible.
My money is on carbon dioxide fire extinguishers, I accidentally set one off in the shed once, my dog ran so fast his arse overtook his face.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Oakey said:
There is today





http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/zoo-blamed...

Edited by Oakey on Thursday 2nd June 15:06
If that it all that stands between you and a drop off into the enclosure then I'm surprised this doesn't happen every week.

My 2.5 yr old lad would be through that like a shot. I like to think he's not retarded enough to jump in however.

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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dave_s13 said:
If that it all that stands between you and a drop off into the enclosure then I'm surprised this doesn't happen every week.

My 2.5 yr old lad would be through that like a shot. I like to think he's not retarded enough to jump in however.
Seems totally inadequate and someone's getting sacked for signing that design off.. However, is part of the problem the fact that the Gorilla had access to the bottom of the moat as well?

I've been to an eco park in Mexico that has a similar enclosure, a viewing wall above a deep, dry moat, and the 'exhibits' live on the raised 'island' of land inside the moat. The animals didn't have access to the moat itself, it wasn't part of their area that they were not able to get in and out of the moat....

Would be interesting to know more about the design of he Cincinnati gorilla enclosure.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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dave_s13 said:
If that it all that stands between you and a drop off into the enclosure then I'm surprised this doesn't happen every week.

My 2.5 yr old lad would be through that like a shot. I like to think he's not retarded enough to jump in however.
yes but youd see that and say

a)jesus thats dangerous best keep him away from there.
b)hunny you aint going in there then turn away and look elsewhere after the kid told you he was going to do it

not only did he crawl through there, he had to go through the bush. sure these thing happen quick but just how much attention were they paying.

they hit the lottery anyway. millions in compo and tv appearances are on their way they'll be on opra in no time

DoubleSix

11,715 posts

176 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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...and you'd be watching them like a hawk as per usual. No way my 3.5yr old would get through there without me clocking it.

If by some slim chance she did a quick blast of 'Dad Voice'TM would freeze her to the spot.

Still, no excuse for 1m glass barrier there, would take nothing away from the experience but reduce risk immeasurably.

Murph7355

37,716 posts

256 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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AnotherClarkey said:
I have never understood how risk management can work with thrill rides either. There is no real benefit so how is any level of risk acceptable?
The "benefit" is the rush for the people riding it.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Gandahar said:
Just another case of too many guns in the US I'm afraid.
Quite the reverse in fact.

If the toddler had been armed, then none of this would have happened.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,382 posts

150 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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The gorilla was 17 and black. He would have been shot soon anyway, toddler or not.

Ken Figenus

5,707 posts

117 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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2 similar scenarios, no killings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xr1YjwDNm4 I know, where it my lad etc, but the films are what they are.

dudleybloke

19,837 posts

186 months

Monday 6th June 2016
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