Gorilla Shot Dead At Cincinnati Zoo After Child Falls Into E

[Lucas CAV]

bayleaf said:

Hopefully it's out the gorilla out of the misery and depression it was probably in.

This.

st parenting aside, the sooner zoos are no longer in operation the better.

[MikeyC]

Sorry for the Gorilla
<arm-chair expert mode on>
I feel that a tranquillizer dart could have been sucessfully used.
Gorillas arn't particulalry dangerous, just ask David Attenborough
The boy was in the enclosure for 10mins and appears to have only minor cuts/bruises (latest news-reports)
Had it been a lion/tiger enclosure then the headlines would have been alot different

[dave_s13]

BlackLabel said:

A week or so ago a man in Chile jumped into a lion enclosure at a zoo, stripped naked and then goaded the lions to attack him (he wanted to kill himself) - the staff there tried to hit the lions with a tranquilizer dart but ended up hitting the man with it. They then shot 2 lions dead.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/22/two-z...

Bloody hell... You couldn't make that up really. Silly bd.

[Randy Winkman]

Jimboka said:

Seeing that poor Gorilla was very sad. I'll not go to a zoo again for sure.

How about Port Lympne or Howletts in Kent where the whole emphasis is on conservation and endangered species? I'm not sure it would happen now, but about 15 years ago I saw John Aspinall in one of the gorilla cages with (I assume) his granddaughter who looked about 3 years old.

http://www.aspinallfoundation.org/conservation#ove...

Edited by Randy Winkman on Monday 30th May 09:10

[fathomfive]

5ohmustang said:

Dumb ass retarded kid. I hope he remembers he's responsible for the killing of that wonderful creature for the rest of his life.

The kid isn't at the top of the responsibility list here.

There are two other parties above him.

[saaby93]

Lucas CAV said:

the sooner zoos are no longer in operation the better.

Well no - the idea of (some/most) zoos these days is to try to help conserve whats left over

BlackLabel said:

A week or so ago a man in Chile jumped into a lion enclosure at a zoo, stripped naked and then goaded the lions to attack him (he wanted to kill himself) - the staff there tried to hit the lions with a tranquilizer dart but ended up hitting the man with it. They then shot 2 lions dead.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/22/two-z...

Priorities wrong
If they'd noticed the body a few hours later would they have killed the lions or just said thats how it is?

[leef44]

Very sad state of affair. They have to shoot the animal because its family can't sue the zoo whereas the kid's family can.

[BrassMan]

Mabbs9 said:

Even if a tranquilliser was fast acting, a 400lb gorilla falling on the kid wouldn't particularly help.

You still have that problem if you shoot him.

Anyone know what sort of gun you need to drop a gorilla quickly?

[BlackLabel]

5ohmustang said:

Dumb ass retarded kid. I hope he remembers he's responsible for the killing of that wonderful creature for the rest of his life.

It's a bit harsh blaming the kid - he was only 4 years old.

[Pesty]

BrassMan said:

You still have that problem if you shoot him.

Anyone know what sort of gun you need to drop a gorilla quickly?

One wth frigging big bullets

[Pan Pan Pan]

leef44 said:

Very sad state of affair. They have to shoot the animal because its family can't sue the zoo whereas the kid's family can.

At the very least the child's family should be made to pay compensation for the (arguably necessary) loss of the gorilla.
Some people seem to believe that it is `little johnnies right' to do whatever he wants, (including falling into a gorillas enclosure) and that someone else must always pick up the tab for whatever problems or mayhem that causes.
Now a Gorilla (of which there are not so many in the world) is dead because of the mindless ignorance and poor parenting of a pair of idiots (of which there are likely millions, if not billions in the world)

Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Monday 30th May 12:35

[rb5er]

5ohmustang said:

Dumb ass retarded kid. I hope he remembers he's responsible for the killing of that wonderful creature for the rest of his life.

I'm sure you were full of wisdom at 4 years old.

Responsibility should be with primarily the parents and the secondly the zoo.

[Pesty]

Pan Pan Pan said:

At the very least the child's family should be made to pay compensation for the (arguably necessary) loss of the gorilla.
Some people seem to believe that it is `little johnnies right' to do whatever he wants, (including falling into a gorillas enclosure) and that someone else must always pick up the tab for whatever problems or mayhem that causes.
Now a Gorilla (of which there are not so many in the world) is dead because of the mindless ignorance and poor parenting of a pair of idiots (of which there are likely millions, if not billions in the world)

Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Monday 30th May 12:35

The parent/s will sue the zoo.

[Pan Pan Pan]

The age old adage `Be stupid get cut' applies as always but in this case it was the gorilla which got cut for the child's and more accurately the parents stupidity. Generally it is quite difficult to protect humans from their own stupidity, especially when they want to be willfully stupid.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Pesty said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

At the very least the child's family should be made to pay compensation for the (arguably necessary) loss of the gorilla.
Some people seem to believe that it is `little johnnies right' to do whatever he wants, (including falling into a gorillas enclosure) and that someone else must always pick up the tab for whatever problems or mayhem that causes.
Now a Gorilla (of which there are not so many in the world) is dead because of the mindless ignorance and poor parenting of a pair of idiots (of which there are likely millions, if not billions in the world)

Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Monday 30th May 12:35

The parent/s will sue the zoo.

If they try that one, the zoo must counterclaim for loss of the gorilla (and arguably the loss of revenue that the gorillas absence might cause) The parents stupidity, and negligence, must not be remotely rewarded in any way, but rather penalized, as heavily as the law allows.

[Mr GrimNasty]

But the zoo has a duty to make sure its enclosures are entirely child-proof!

Honestly, if your 4 yo kid said I'm going to get in the Gorilla cage, would you take them seriously and restrain them - it simply shouldn't have been possible!

Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Monday 30th May 13:09

[Pesty]

Pan Pan Pan said:

If they try that one, the zoo must counterclaim for loss of the gorilla (and arguably the loss of revenue that the gorillas absence might cause) The parents stupidity, and negligence, must not be remotely rewarded in any way, but rather penalized, as heavily as the law allows.

Agree however m not sure the law will. IM guessing they will go after the zoo for not making every effort to make it safe.

The parents will win the lottery. Although I think it depends on the state.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Mr GrimNasty said:

But the zoo has a duty to make sure it's enclosures are entirely child-proof!

Honestly, if your 4 yo kid said I'm going to get in the Gorilla cage, would you take them seriously and restrain them - it simply shouldn't have been possible!

I tend to agree, but stupidity has a way of circumventing any reasonable safety measures invented by man, If one saw ones child climbing over the barriers, or near to the protective edge of a wild animals enclosure, any normal parent would pull them off or back from it. Still if little johnnie (who has the right to do anything he wants) wants to be stupid, why should the parents stop him?
Even when I was around four, or five, I clearly remember having an inbuilt healthy respect for high drop offs, deep water, deep moats, and when visiting London zoo with my parents, being fully aware and grateful for the bars that stood between me and the animals within the enclosures, This child clearly did not, and he almost paid the price. Pity in this instance the gorilla had to pay the price for the parents, and child's stupidity with its life.

[Du1point8]

[TwigtheWonderkid]

The parents should have kept a better eye on their kid.

Once they had failed in their responsibility , the zoo should have been responsible for keeping a wild animal in an enclosure that an determined adult would find impossible to enter without the key, let alone a 4 yr old kid.

Once the parents and the zoo had failed in their responsibilities, shooting it was the correct course of action.

As regards zoos in general, ask 100 people who work on the front line of animal conservation, (who are actually walking the walk and not sitting at their computers spouting how the world should be), how they first got interested in animals, and 99 of them will say "a trip to the zoo."