Expats/Brits Abroad and the EU Referendum

Expats/Brits Abroad and the EU Referendum

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NordicCrankShaft

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1,724 posts

115 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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So, how are all of the Brits abroad feeling about the upcoming referendum?

I'm still allowed to vote as I've not lived outside the country beyond the 15 year limit (as I understand) and currently standing at 3 years so will be voting by Proxy.

From a sensible point of view as a British person who currently lives abroad I'm going to vote to stay in for obvious reasons....Wife is Norwegian and the opportunity to move back at some point.

But has anyone seen anything that is a lot more clear cut about how a yes vote affects people abroad and why it should even cross my mind that a yes vote "might" be for me?

I want to be absolutely sure!

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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NordicCrankShaft said:
So, how are all of the Brits abroad feeling about the upcoming referendum?

I'm still allowed to vote as I've not lived outside the country beyond the 15 year limit (as I understand) and currently standing at 3 years so will be voting by Proxy.

From a sensible point of view as a British person who currently lives abroad I'm going to vote to stay in for obvious reasons....Wife is Norwegian and the opportunity to move back at some point.
What obvious reason are you referring too? What has your wife being Norwegian got to do with anything? Why would you possibly think that a British citizen would not be able to return to Britain, with his Norwegian wife?

NordicCrankShaft said:
But has anyone seen anything that is a lot more clear cut about how a yes vote affects people abroad and why it should even cross my mind that a yes vote "might" be for me?

I want to be absolutely sure!
It's not going to affect you in any way whatsoever.

pim

2,344 posts

124 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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NordicCrankShaft said:
So, how are all of the Brits abroad feeling about the upcoming referendum?

I'm still allowed to vote as I've not lived outside the country beyond the 15 year limit (as I understand) and currently standing at 3 years so will be voting by Proxy.

From a sensible point of view as a British person who currently lives abroad I'm going to vote to stay in for obvious reasons....Wife is Norwegian and the opportunity to move back at some point.

But has anyone seen anything that is a lot more clear cut about how a yes vote affects people abroad and why it should even cross my mind that a yes vote "might" be for me?

I want to be absolutely sure!
Whichever way you vote if you want to return to the UK at some point in future shouldn't be a problem.Unless your wife and yourself are involved in criminal activity there might be a problem.

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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My mum lives in Spain. She's very worried about an out vote. She believes she will lose many of the rights and services she gets while being a resident in Spain, especially medical care.


krallicious

4,312 posts

205 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Not really too worried. I hope that the UK will vote to stay but I'm willing to bet that at least 50% of the poeple who do turn out to vote have no real idea what they are voting for. If the worst comes to the worst, then I am eligible for joint citizenship in just over 2 years and to cover the 2 years before that happen, I can get married.

Getragdogleg

8,768 posts

183 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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The convenience of a minority of people who choose to live in a foreign country is not a good reason to stay in the EU.

The EU is corrupt, inept and undemocratic. It also has plans to expand its powers and exert more control over its subjects, if I lived outside Britain and within the EU I would be more fearful of what might happen if we remain and this unworkable project limps on to its inevitable painful end. If Greece fails and we see much more unemployment we could see a people Vs the EU sort of civil unrest situation which would not be good.

I suspect other dissatisfied countries will jump on this referendum idea in time.

Matt Harper

6,618 posts

201 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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If I still lived in the UK, I think I would want out of the EU.
Because I don't live there and have no intention of returning, I'm not going to vote, as it's a bit like meddling in affairs that don't concern me.
Aside from that, where I live we have our own conundrum - raving lunatic vs pathological liar (those attributes are applicable to either candidate, as far as I'm concerned).

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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NordicCrankShaft said:
So, how are all of the Brits abroad feeling about the upcoming referendum?

I'm still allowed to vote as I've not lived outside the country beyond the 15 year limit (as I understand) and currently standing at 3 years so will be voting by Proxy.

From a sensible point of view as a British person who currently lives abroad I'm going to vote to stay in for obvious reasons....Wife is Norwegian and the opportunity to move back at some point.

But has anyone seen anything that is a lot more clear cut about how a yes vote affects people abroad and why it should even cross my mind that a yes vote "might" be for me?

I want to be absolutely sure!
You do realise that historic treaties protect your current position in the event of Brexit don't you? You'd be far smarter to vote for leave so you can have the choice of UK or EU.

gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Us leaving the EU will make no difference what so ever, we had a huge number of expats living on main land Europe long before we joined the EU why would that not continue to be the case.

I went to school in France before we joined because we weeper an expat family for a while, we moved back to the UK and our new new ours were German as the father in the family was a banker working here for a few years for a German Bank in London.

The EU is not responsible for the ability for people to work or live abroad, they just want us to think it is when in reality it has been going on for ages.


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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I live in NZ, have done for 12 years now, either way wont affect me.

I wont vote as its no longer my problem or issue. If I did vote it would be out, no question.

FarleyRusk

1,036 posts

211 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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I've lived abroad for 23 years now and so have no vote. I'd vote leave if I could as it is in Britain's interests to regain control of immigration and the justice system. The EU is not fit for purpose and a kick in the arse is what it needs to reform.

Tony427

2,873 posts

233 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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We have two relatives living the dream on the Costa del something or other. Its like Eastborne in the sun.

Retired ladies in their mid 70's

Both voted out.

Cheers,

Tony

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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RobDickinson said:
I live in NZ, have done for 12 years now, either way wont affect me.

I wont vote as its no longer my problem or issue. If I did vote it would be out, no question.
But a vote out would affect you. If out, NZ would be amongst the first to get an FTA with the UK. That would be a boost for the NZ economy. (and the Brits would get cheaper and better lamb).

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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s2art said:
But a vote out would affect you. If out, NZ would be amongst the first to get an FTA with the UK. That would be a boost for the NZ economy. (and the Brits would get cheaper and better lamb).
NZ's PM doesn't agree with you there. He has said NZ would be better off if Britain votes Remain.

k

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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klootzak said:
s2art said:
But a vote out would affect you. If out, NZ would be amongst the first to get an FTA with the UK. That would be a boost for the NZ economy. (and the Brits would get cheaper and better lamb).
NZ's PM doesn't agree with you there. He has said NZ would be better off if Britain votes Remain.

k
Difficult to see why that is true. What does the UK remaining do for NZ?

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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s2art said:
Difficult to see why that is true. What does the UK remaining do for NZ?
Apparently, having Britain as a conduit to the EU is better than having Britain by itself. That's what was said, by both Key (NZ) and Turnbull (Aus).

While I'm no fan of either of them, they aren't stupid by any stretch of the imagination.

k


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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I doubt it will make a huge impact either way for NZ, not enough to sway my vote anyhow.

JK is a lizard king owned by business.

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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RobDickinson said:
I doubt it will make a huge impact either way for NZ, not enough to sway my vote anyhow.

JK is a lizard king owned by business.
Not sure I'd be that polite about slippery John K-Y smile

k

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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Polite or not he's the only electable leader the country has at the moment. And he's done a pretty good job overall. Could screw over the 100% pure thing a whole lot less though... (and nope didnt vote for him)

fttm

3,686 posts

135 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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Tried registering online , put off by all the info required so bailed out. Won't be going back so what's it got to do with me etc ? The UK is fked , voting either way will make little difference .