CLINTON V TRUMP
Poll: CLINTON V TRUMP
Total Members Polled: 417
Discussion
unrepentant said:
Jockman said:
unrepentant said:
Don't worry, Brits will come to their senses and vote to stay in and Boris will be exiled to the Isle of Man.
Hmmmm.........We stick together us Brits and stupid or otherwise, poor comment. Hope you are happy in the US as you just pissed on you're chips here. To use a colloquialism you were once aware of.
unrepentant said:
Jockman said:
unrepentant said:
Don't worry, Brits will come to their senses and vote to stay in and Boris will be exiled to the Isle of Man.
Hmmmm.........
mikees said:
unrepentant said:
Jockman said:
unrepentant said:
Don't worry, Brits will come to their senses and vote to stay in and Boris will be exiled to the Isle of Man.
Hmmmm.........We stick together us Brits and stupid or otherwise, poor comment. Hope you are happy in the US as you just pissed on you're chips here. To use a colloquialism you were once aware of.
Maybe stupid was a bit harsh. Unbelievable all the same. I still have reasonably big (for me) personal investments in the UK so I hope that things work out. Cameron was the really stupid one for promising the referendum in the first place. Never ask a question you don't know the answer to etc..
As far as pissing on my chips, most of the people I know well voted to remain and are as aghast as I am about it.
unrepentant said:
It's POTUS, the U stands for United, as in United States.....
Don't worry, Brits will come to their senses and vote to stay in and Boris will be exiled to the Isle of Man.
Do you travel to Europe ?Don't worry, Brits will come to their senses and vote to stay in and Boris will be exiled to the Isle of Man.
Have you seen youngsters in Portugal,Spain,Italy and Greece,decent hardworking kids,desperate for a decent start to life.
Large percentage without jobs,those that have jobs not able to hardly afford to rent let alone buy a flat.
I was in Portugal last week,got chatting to some lovely kids working in the hotel,kids you'd be proud to call your own.
They get minimum wage or just above circa €500 a month,a bedsit is €400/450 a month.
Many Beautiful houses in Porto,standing empty,derelict,because the locals can't afford them.
But you know who's buying them.....guess....foreign developers...doing them up into flats for foreigners to buy.
Mafia has tentacles in construction,waste collection etc over much of Italy and Spain.
Meanwhile The EU MEP's and apparatchiks get rich on inflated renumeration and fat pensions and expense accounts.
I spoke to a German industrialist last year,he supplied software to VW,he was so pleased by Merkel's decision to flood the country with immigrants,source of cheapish labour for him.
avinalarf said:
Do you travel to Europe ?
Have you seen youngsters in Portugal,Spain,Italy and Greece,decent hardworking kids,desperate for a decent start to life.
Large percentage without jobs,those that have jobs not able to hardly afford to rent let alone buy a flat.
I was in Portugal last week,got chatting to some lovely kids working in the hotel,kids you'd be proud to call your own.
They get minimum wage or just above circa €500 a month,a bedsit is €400/450 a month.
Many Beautiful houses in Porto,standing empty,derelict,because the locals can't afford them.
But you know who's buying them.....guess....foreign developers...doing them up into flats for foreigners to buy.
Mafia has tentacles in construction,waste collection etc over much of Italy and Spain.
Meanwhile The EU MEP's and apparatchiks get rich on inflated renumeration and fat pensions and expense accounts.
I spoke to a German industrialist last year,he supplied software to VW,he was so pleased by Merkel's decision to flood the country with immigrants,source of cheapish labour for him.
Well how else are megacorps and wealthy investors going to get public goods at firesale prices?Have you seen youngsters in Portugal,Spain,Italy and Greece,decent hardworking kids,desperate for a decent start to life.
Large percentage without jobs,those that have jobs not able to hardly afford to rent let alone buy a flat.
I was in Portugal last week,got chatting to some lovely kids working in the hotel,kids you'd be proud to call your own.
They get minimum wage or just above circa €500 a month,a bedsit is €400/450 a month.
Many Beautiful houses in Porto,standing empty,derelict,because the locals can't afford them.
But you know who's buying them.....guess....foreign developers...doing them up into flats for foreigners to buy.
Mafia has tentacles in construction,waste collection etc over much of Italy and Spain.
Meanwhile The EU MEP's and apparatchiks get rich on inflated renumeration and fat pensions and expense accounts.
I spoke to a German industrialist last year,he supplied software to VW,he was so pleased by Merkel's decision to flood the country with immigrants,source of cheapish labour for him.
unrepentant said:
As far as pissing on my chips, most of the people I know well voted to remain and are as aghast as I am about it.
As for all you Americans who may have an utter clown leading your country into conflict at every possible opportunity.......
Robertj21a said:
unrepentant said:
As far as pissing on my chips, most of the people I know well voted to remain and are as aghast as I am about it.
As for all you Americans who may have an utter clown leading your country into conflict at every possible opportunity.......
Trump will lose massively in November and Clinton will continue the very real progress that has been made over the past 8 years.
Meanwhile major republican donor and CEO of HP Meg Whitman has announced that she is so disgusted with Trump that she will not only vote for Clinton but she will campaign and fund raise for her too. Whitman was the CEO of Ebay for 10 years and took the business from $4 million to $8 billion in revenue and is one of the most powerful women in America. She's just the latest senior republican to jump ship.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/meg-...
It's being reported tonight that Paul Manafort has basically given up trying to influence Trump and is basically just "mailing it in" now. The wheels are coming off fast.......
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/meg-...
It's being reported tonight that Paul Manafort has basically given up trying to influence Trump and is basically just "mailing it in" now. The wheels are coming off fast.......
unrepentant said:
No you won't. You can't afford not to trade with the EU and they will make the conditions under which you may do so draconian. Britain will still be mired in EU laws, restrictions and red tape but you will have no seat at the table. Worst of all worlds. Leaving is an act of lunacy and I don't know one sensible smart Brit who thinks otherwise.
I know plenty of sensible smart Brits who think otherwise.unrepentant said:
Robertj21a said:
unrepentant said:
As far as pissing on my chips, most of the people I know well voted to remain and are as aghast as I am about it.
As for all you Americans who may have an utter clown leading your country into conflict at every possible opportunity.......
Trump will lose massively in November and Clinton will continue the very real progress that has been made over the past 8 years.
Perhaps the UK should start charging the EU a fee, to enable them to talk to the UK about trade? 10.8 billion pounds a year should just about do it. Anyone who has looked at the UK`s relationship with the EEC/EU and still voted to remain, are the real lunatics, or just perhaps a member of the minority in the UK who have/are making a little out of being in the EU, and want to carry on doing so, regardless of the effect that EU membership has on the rest of the UK as a whole.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Any draconian trade measures the EU tries to impose on the UK can be reciprocated, and since the EU sells more to the UK than the UK sells to the EU, any such measures will do more damage to the EU businesses selling into the UK. The UK/EU trade deficit widened to a record 24 billion in the first few months of 2016 alone.
Oh God, not this misinformed old piece of rubbish again????If we end up in a trade war with the EU, then the fact that they export more to us than we export to them is irrelevant without taking into account the impact per capita.
The UK exports somewhere in the region of 4 times as much per capita to the EU as the EU exports to us. An equal percentage drop in export trade would have 4 times the impact on us as it would on the EU.
unrepentant said:
Robertj21a said:
unrepentant said:
As far as pissing on my chips, most of the people I know well voted to remain and are as aghast as I am about it.
As for all you Americans who may have an utter clown leading your country into conflict at every possible opportunity.......
Trump will lose massively in November and Clinton will continue the very real progress that has been made over the past 8 years.
Do it also mire other non countries in draconian red tape to stop trade, or does it sensibly negotiate reasonable trading conditions?
We want to buy from them, and they want to buy from us.
unrepentant said:
Robertj21a said:
unrepentant said:
As far as pissing on my chips, most of the people I know well voted to remain and are as aghast as I am about it.
As for all you Americans who may have an utter clown leading your country into conflict at every possible opportunity.......
Trump will lose massively in November and Clinton will continue the very real progress that has been made over the past 8 years.
Your prediction so far has been woeful so I might just take future predictions with a pinch of salt.
Smugness gave us Brexit. It will also deliver you Trump.
unrepentant said:
It's being reported tonight that Paul Manafort has basically given up trying to influence Trump and is basically just "mailing it in" now. The wheels are coming off fast.......
Interesting, thanks for this. Do you know who said it? I've just searched and it appears to be 'unnamed close to Manafort', which makes me slightly cynical.unrepentant said:
I'm confused. You're saying the people of Greece, who are massive net beneficiaries of EU funds are being ripped off by.... The EU? And that's got what to do with the US election?
You brought up the subject of Brexit.Greece amongst other countries should never have been allowed into the EU let alone the Euro.
Their economy was not up to the standard requirements.
Funnily enough there is a link to the elections in the USA.
It is the same,of multiple,reasons that people voted for Brexit.
Many of the electorate were fed up with the status quo,the politicians who were not listening to their concerns,seeing their quality of life steadily diminished,the perception that their life chances were affected by mass immigration,the chance of regaining sovereignty.
It was a cry of despair and a rare chance to kick the Establishment.
I bet that's a similar profile of the electorate that support Trump.
It is a great shame that Hillary Clinton has had such a chequered history,from what I've read over the years,she's been involved in or close to a lot of sleaze and shady affairs.
I'd be interested in your opinion and of those that support HC and why she is Teflon coated ?
Unless it's just that she's the better of two evils.
Edited by avinalarf on Wednesday 3rd August 11:28
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