Labour MP Jo Cox Shot

[TTmonkey]

Burwood said:

snake_oil said:

Well well well. Mr Cox has confessed to being a sex pest to The Mail. Scoop!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5404241/Jo...

Telling a woman you want to fk them whilst strangling them isn’t really a great move is it. I believe that’s a very small minority who are into that semi snuff st.

Um, only you've said he was strangling her. Yes the language in the mail 'holding her by the throat' might allude to this, but I'd suggest a bit of sensationalism by them which you've just magnified. You can place your hands under a persons jawline without intent to strangle them. I'd say thats an aggressive and dominating move if the encounter is unwanted, but to leap this to 'strangling' is something that is being said by you, not the victim, not the papers. He's been accused of sexual harassment, not attempted rape/murder.

Clearly a sexually 'aggressive' encounter, but as far as I've read, no charges have been recorded against him, he hasn't been found guilty of anything, yet you've effectively accused the man of strangling a woman. He's admitted to inappropriate behaviour, but not to strangling a woman.

[Harry Biscuit]

TTmonkey said:

Um, only you've said he was strangling her. Yes the language in the mail 'holding her by the throat' might allude to this, but I'd suggest a bit of sensationalism by them which you've just magnified. You can place your hands under a persons jawline without intent to strangle them. I'd say thats an aggressive and dominating move if the encounter is unwanted, but to leap this to 'strangling' is something that is being said by you, not the victim, not the papers. He's been accused of sexual harassment, not attempted rape/murder.

Clearly a sexually 'aggressive' encounter, but as far as I've read, no charges have been recorded against him, he hasn't been found guilty of anything, yet you've effectively accused the man of strangling a woman. He's admitted to inappropriate behaviour, but not to strangling a woman.

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

[Murph7355]

Harry Biscuit said:

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

Of people whose other views are shared.

TTM - have you often put your hands on a woman's throat?

[Harry Biscuit]

I see that the BBC damage limitation team are in full swing.

[TTmonkey]

Murph7355 said:

Harry Biscuit said:

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

Of people whose other views are shared.

TTM - have you often put your hands on a woman's throat?

Not that I recall. i do however think that saying someone was strangling someone, on a public forum, when no one has been accused, charged or found guilty of this, is steppping on very thin ice in terms of libel law. Still, the owners oh PH have very good lawyers I suspect.

Why not escalate further, and accuse the man of something even worse, whilst the pitch forks are out...?

[mx5nut]

Harry Biscuit said:

I see that the BBC damage limitation team are in full swing.

Currently the lead story on their website.

Much whitewash.

Such coverup.

[Harry Biscuit]

mx5nut said:

Harry Biscuit said:

I see that the BBC damage limitation team are in full swing.

Currently the lead story on their website.

Much whitewash.

Such coverup.

Erm, that's my point.

That gushing praise from Lucy Powell.

[saaby93]

Murph7355 said:

TTM - have you often put your hands on a woman's throat?

That may be stretching what happened
Youre allowed to carress someones shoulders neck and ears (etc!) if you're close to them
Is there going be a need to set up CCTV so allegations one way or the other can be judged by independent parties?
Strangling is taboo BTW

[mx5nut]

NP&E: It's political correctness gone mad. What's next? Not even being allowed to talk to women?

Also NP&E: A leftie did what? Ban this filth immediately!

[anonymous-user]

mx5nut said:

NP&E: It's political correctness gone mad. What's next? Not even being allowed to talk to women?

Also NP&E: A leftie did what? Ban this filth immediately!

Once again you miss the point.

This tt has been pontificating and lecturing anyone dumb enough to listen to him on how we should all behave.

Turns out he doesn’t practice what he preaches.

No surprise really, our political classes are, in general, morally bereft. They only maintain their falsely gained high ground because of the naivity of half wits like you.

[M3333]

Harry Biscuit said:

TTmonkey said:

Um, only you've said he was strangling her. Yes the language in the mail 'holding her by the throat' might allude to this, but I'd suggest a bit of sensationalism by them which you've just magnified. You can place your hands under a persons jawline without intent to strangle them. I'd say thats an aggressive and dominating move if the encounter is unwanted, but to leap this to 'strangling' is something that is being said by you, not the victim, not the papers. He's been accused of sexual harassment, not attempted rape/murder.

Clearly a sexually 'aggressive' encounter, but as far as I've read, no charges have been recorded against him, he hasn't been found guilty of anything, yet you've effectively accused the man of strangling a woman. He's admitted to inappropriate behaviour, but not to strangling a woman.

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

Perfectly tolerable. And her comments would have been just as tolerable if he had been a stark raving nasty Tory.

[WinstonWolf]

TTmonkey said:

Murph7355 said:

Harry Biscuit said:

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

Of people whose other views are shared.

TTM - have you often put your hands on a woman's throat?

Not that I recall. i do however think that saying someone was strangling someone, on a public forum, when no one has been accused, charged or found guilty of this, is steppping on very thin ice in terms of libel law. Still, the owners oh PH have very good lawyers I suspect.

Why not escalate further, and accuse the man of something even worse, whilst the pitch forks are out...?

It's all the rage in Fifty Shades, it depends if it was wanted or unwanted...

[andy_s]

WinstonWolf said:

TTmonkey said:

Murph7355 said:

Harry Biscuit said:

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

Of people whose other views are shared.

TTM - have you often put your hands on a woman's throat?

Not that I recall. i do however think that saying someone was strangling someone, on a public forum, when no one has been accused, charged or found guilty of this, is steppping on very thin ice in terms of libel law. Still, the owners oh PH have very good lawyers I suspect.

Why not escalate further, and accuse the man of something even worse, whilst the pitch forks are out...?

It's all the rage in Fifty Shades, it depends if it was wanted or unwanted...

I was going to say much the same, and aren't Jilly Cooper's novels rife with passionate moments of ravishing women being ravished in assertive ways by rich, powerful men or hunky, sweaty gardeners.

It seems, on the face of it, to be a storm in a tea cup - no offence committed, although perhaps retrospectively taken...

[zygalski]

Harry Biscuit said:

mx5nut said:

Harry Biscuit said:

I see that the BBC damage limitation team are in full swing.

Currently the lead story on their website.

Much whitewash.

Such coverup.

Erm, that's my point.

That gushing praise from Lucy Powell.

Can you point to a part of the BBC article that demonstrates an attempt at damage limitation?
Come on, don't be shy.

[Harry Biscuit]

zygalski said:

Harry Biscuit said:

mx5nut said:

Harry Biscuit said:

I see that the BBC damage limitation team are in full swing.

Currently the lead story on their website.

Much whitewash.

Such coverup.

Erm, that's my point.

That gushing praise from Lucy Powell.

Can you point to a part of the BBC article that demonstrates an attempt at damage limitation?
Come on, don't be shy.

Happy to

The repeated eulogy from Lucy Powell on R4 this morning.

Typically, the BBC report some news & maybe offer a comment from the person who is the subject of the piece.

The content of this reporting is akin to those prepared when someone famous dies. It's definitely at odds with the usual reporting.

Add to that the content from Lucy Powell. Actually, by her wavering voice, even she didn't sound convinced by her own words. But, the BBC can't have anything bad said about their own.


Now about your that comment you ignored.....

[mx5nut]

Harry Biscuit said:

zygalski said:

Harry Biscuit said:

mx5nut said:

Harry Biscuit said:

I see that the BBC damage limitation team are in full swing.

Currently the lead story on their website.

Much whitewash.

Such coverup.

Erm, that's my point.

That gushing praise from Lucy Powell.

Can you point to a part of the BBC article that demonstrates an attempt at damage limitation?
Come on, don't be shy.

Happy to

The repeated eulogy from Lucy Powell on R4 this morning.

Typically, the BBC report some news & maybe offer a comment from the person who is the subject of the piece.

The content of this reporting is akin to those prepared when someone famous dies. It's definitely at odds with the usual reporting.

Add to that the content from Lucy Powell. Actually, by her wavering voice, even she didn't sound convinced by her own words. But, the BBC can't have anything bad said about their own.


Now about your that comment you ignored.....

Meanwhile in another universe where the BBC didn't cover Lucy Powell's comments...

"Biased BBC covers up Labour MP's unpalatable comments and REFUSES to report on them in case it makes Labour look bad!"

[Oakey]

andy_s said:

WinstonWolf said:

TTmonkey said:

Murph7355 said:

Harry Biscuit said:

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

Of people whose other views are shared.

TTM - have you often put your hands on a woman's throat?

Not that I recall. i do however think that saying someone was strangling someone, on a public forum, when no one has been accused, charged or found guilty of this, is steppping on very thin ice in terms of libel law. Still, the owners oh PH have very good lawyers I suspect.

Why not escalate further, and accuse the man of something even worse, whilst the pitch forks are out...?

It's all the rage in Fifty Shades, it depends if it was wanted or unwanted...

I was going to say much the same, and aren't Jilly Cooper's novels rife with passionate moments of ravishing women being ravished in assertive ways by rich, powerful men or hunky, sweaty gardeners.

It seems, on the face of it, to be a storm in a tea cup - no offence committed, although perhaps retrospectively taken...

Jack Reacher regularly beats people unconscious, I'm not sure that gives us a greenlight to follow his example.

[WinstonWolf]

Oakey said:

andy_s said:

WinstonWolf said:

TTmonkey said:

Murph7355 said:

Harry Biscuit said:

Which is probably why Lucy Powell, the labour MP for Manchester Central has just been on R4 applauding the action Cox has taken, explaining that it's a very refreshing & principled position in stepping down from yet another charity for making other people feel uncomfortable.

So, the left are quite tolerant after all.

Of people whose other views are shared.

TTM - have you often put your hands on a woman's throat?

Not that I recall. i do however think that saying someone was strangling someone, on a public forum, when no one has been accused, charged or found guilty of this, is steppping on very thin ice in terms of libel law. Still, the owners oh PH have very good lawyers I suspect.

Why not escalate further, and accuse the man of something even worse, whilst the pitch forks are out...?

It's all the rage in Fifty Shades, it depends if it was wanted or unwanted...

I was going to say much the same, and aren't Jilly Cooper's novels rife with passionate moments of ravishing women being ravished in assertive ways by rich, powerful men or hunky, sweaty gardeners.

It seems, on the face of it, to be a storm in a tea cup - no offence committed, although perhaps retrospectively taken...

Jack Reacher regularly beats people unconscious, I'm not sure that gives us a greenlight to follow his example.

It just helps avoid any hysteria. These days a kiss can constitute sexual abuse, context is key.

[Blue62]

REALIST123 said:

Once again you miss the point.

This tt has been pontificating and lecturing anyone dumb enough to listen to him on how we should all behave.

Turns out he doesn’t practice what he preaches.

No surprise really, our political classes are, in general, morally bereft. They only maintain their falsely gained high ground because of the naivity of half wits like you.

I'm not sure that's really the case, the fact is that the moral ground is shifting at an alarming rate, what was considered 'normal behaviour' 10 years ago is now being presented as dysfunctional, it has nothing to do with the political classes as someone who purports to be fully witted should know. It's impossible to know the facts in these cases, it could be OTT flirting or a full on fanny grab, but to mock on the basis of moral high ground is to miss the point entirely and to fall into the trap the the media hype has set for you.

[anonymous-user]

Burwood said:

Telling a woman you want to fk them whilst strangling them isn’t really a great move is it. I believe that’s a very small minority who are into that semi snuff st.

Courting was very different in my day