Labour MP Jo Cox Shot

[Russian Troll Bot]

This tweet aged well

[CoolC]

techiedave said:

Murph7355 said:

Noodle1982 said:

Everyone should lay off Brendan, everyone gets it wrong at times...

https://twitter.com/RachaelSaunders/status/9650249...

Unbe-fking-lievable

I suspect that tweet isn't going quite as the dimwit expected.

Some of the replies are hilarious

Has she resigned yet? of course not...

[B'stard Child]

techiedave said:

Some of the replies are hilarious

You really aren't wrong there .....

a n other twitter user said:

Jeez that's like saying Fred West was not a bad guy and kept his garden in good nick!

a n other twitter user said:

And laid a fooking good patio

a n other twitter user said:

Fair comment. I mean, John Worboys raped a lot of women but he was a great cab driver and Harold Shipman worked very hard to become a GP before he got it wrong at times bless 'em

a n other twitter user said:

Absolutely. Say what you like about Ian Huntley but he was a fking good caretaker. FFS, these people are just unbelievable!

a n other twitter user said:

Bet you were one of them that after finding out about the horrific child abuse carried out by Jimmy Saville said..... "Ah well,he did collect a lot of money for charity"

I don't do twitter but christ on a bike it's fking acidic in there!!!

[anonymous-user]

B'stard Child said:

I don't do twitter but christ on a bike it's fking acidic in there!!!

Me neither but that's hilarious. What have I been missing?

[Digga]

fblm said:

B'stard Child said:

I don't do twitter but christ on a bike it's fking acidic in there!!!

Me neither but that's hilarious. What have I been missing?

Yes, that Tweet is being hammered into the ground repeatedly, and rightly so.

[CoolC]

Digga said:

fblm said:

B'stard Child said:

I don't do twitter but christ on a bike it's fking acidic in there!!!

Me neither but that's hilarious. What have I been missing?

Yes, that Tweet is being hammered into the ground repeatedly, and rightly so.

Although it seems none of the MSM have picked up on it. Imagine the uproar if anyone even vaguely to the right posted that Tweet.

[Digga]

CoolC said:

Digga said:

fblm said:

B'stard Child said:

I don't do twitter but christ on a bike it's fking acidic in there!!!

Me neither but that's hilarious. What have I been missing?

Yes, that Tweet is being hammered into the ground repeatedly, and rightly so.

Although it seems none of the MSM have picked up on it. Imagine the uproar if anyone even vaguely to the right posted that Tweet.

Which is proof perfect of how and why the MSM have, since their epic failure to grasp the zeitgeist of both the general election, and the referendum, become increasingly irrelevant. They are an echo chamber of minority views on the most part, at best, like a stopped clock, they get it right perhaps once every now and again, but that's all.

[Mothersruin]

I'll admit to not realising Oxfam and others were gifted tax payers money.

Not on that.

[Mark Benson]

Digga said:

CoolC said:

Digga said:

fblm said:

B'stard Child said:

I don't do twitter but christ on a bike it's fking acidic in there!!!

Me neither but that's hilarious. What have I been missing?

Yes, that Tweet is being hammered into the ground repeatedly, and rightly so.

Although it seems none of the MSM have picked up on it. Imagine the uproar if anyone even vaguely to the right posted that Tweet.

Which is proof perfect of how and why the MSM have, since their epic failure to grasp the zeitgeist of both the general election, and the referendum, become increasingly irrelevant. They are an echo chamber of minority views on the most part, at best, like a stopped clock, they get it right perhaps once every now and again, but that's all.

Twitter is an echo chamber unless you actively seek out and follow people whose opinions you don't share. It's set up to connect people of similar outlooks, it's not easy to get a balanced view of the world even if you try. So is a journalist going to get a holistic view of the world through Twitter or will they just be connected to people like them and the strident activists who spend their lives putting out content to support their cause?

Where do journalists often go for comments on an item of news? Social Media.

How many OAPs and Gen X are active on Twitter as opposed to Millenials? How many 'normal' everyday working people put out the same content at the same rate as dedicated activists?
So how can Twitter ever give a representative view of the world when you mainly see a subsection of a subsection of a society who often agree with one another and who can retweet any old tosh by barely lifting a finger?

But as we devalue true journalism (how many of us pick up our phones and go to the web for our news for free, rather than paid content whether print or digital) so journalists more and more have to work on smaller budgets and naturally an innovation that lets you connect with lots of people for free is going to be a useful tool.

And then they publicly wonder why 52% voted for Brexit when 'everyone they knew' voted Remain......

Edited by Mark Benson on Tuesday 20th February 13:34

[Digga]

Mark Benson said:

Twitter is an echo chamber unless you actively seek out and follow people whose opinions you don't share.

I agree, but if you are a journalist and cannot figure out the nature of potential social media opinion bias, you are a complete and utter waste of space.

[andymadmak]

CoolC said:

Although it seems none of the MSM have picked up on it. Imagine the uproar if anyone even vaguely to the right posted that Tweet.

they're still busy with this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-43125978/...

[Torcars]

Mark Benson said:

Twitter is an echo chamber unless you actively seek out and follow people whose opinions you don't share. It's set up to connect people of similar outlooks, it's not easy to get a balanced view of the world even if you try. So is a journalist going to get a holistic view of the world through Twitter or will they just be connected to people like them and the strident activists who spend their lives putting out content to support their cause?

Where do journalists often go for comments on an item of news? Social Media.

How many OAPs and Gen X are active on Twitter as opposed to Millenials? How many 'normal' everyday working people put out the same content at the same rate as dedicated activists?
So how can Twitter ever give a representative view of the world when you mainly see a subsection of a subsection of a society who often agree with one another and who can retweet any old tosh by barely lifting a finger?

But as we devalue true journalism (how many of us pick up our phones and go to the web for our news for free, rather than paid content whether print or digital) so journalists more and more have to work on smaller budgets and naturally an innovation that lets you connect with lots of people for free is going to be a useful tool.

And then they publicly wonder why 52% voted for Brexit when 'everyone they knew' voted Remain......

Edited by Mark Benson on Tuesday 20th February 13:34

This is probably the best post I have ever read on PH.

I agree with every word.

I spent 25 years working full time as a journalist and got sick of my junior hacks coming to me with "But someone on Twitter says...". Our target audience was working/lower middle class MILFS. FFS, stop getting the opinions of the largely left wing narcissistic vocal minority and go to the school gates the shopping centre or the Zumba class and talk to real people.

May I share your post on my Facebook page please? I do something else now, but I am still connected with the media and think my colleagues would benefit from a dose of reality.

[Wobbegong]

Mark Benson said:

Twitter is an echo chamber unless you actively seek out and follow people whose opinions you don't share. It's set up to connect people of similar outlooks, it's not easy to get a balanced view of the world even if you try. So is a journalist going to get a holistic view of the world through Twitter or will they just be connected to people like them and the strident activists who spend their lives putting out content to support their cause?

Where do journalists often go for comments on an item of news? Social Media.

How many OAPs and Gen X are active on Twitter as opposed to Millenials? How many 'normal' everyday working people put out the same content at the same rate as dedicated activists?
So how can Twitter ever give a representative view of the world when you mainly see a subsection of a subsection of a society who often agree with one another and who can retweet any old tosh by barely lifting a finger?

But as we devalue true journalism (how many of us pick up our phones and go to the web for our news for free, rather than paid content whether print or digital) so journalists more and more have to work on smaller budgets and naturally an innovation that lets you connect with lots of people for free is going to be a useful tool.

And then they publicly wonder why 52% voted for Brexit when 'everyone they knew' voted Remain......

Edited by Mark Benson on Tuesday 20th February 13:34

Added to that, the shouty frothing posts on the likes of Twitter put normal people off using it for politics.

[Mark Benson]

Torcars said:

This is probably the best post I have ever read on PH.

I agree with every word.

I spent 25 years working full time as a journalist and got sick of my junior hacks coming to me with "But someone on Twitter says...". Our target audience was working/lower middle class MILFS. FFS, stop getting the opinions of the largely left wing narcissistic vocal minority and go to the school gates the shopping centre or the Zumba class and talk to real people.

May I share your post on my Facebook page please? I do something else now, but I am still connected with the media and think my colleagues would benefit from a dose of reality.

Of course you can, no need to ask

One of my neighbours and sometime pub companion is a retired journalist - when he's had a couple his views on Twitter certainly wouldn't be printable....

[Torcars]

Cheers.

[BlackLabel]

Mothersruin said:

I'll admit to not realising Oxfam and others were gifted tax payers money.

Not on that.

We have to make up this batst crazy and arbitary 0.7% of gdp foreign aid spending figure somehow.

[Mothersruin]

BlackLabel said:

Mothersruin said:

I'll admit to not realising Oxfam and others were gifted tax payers money.

Not on that.

We have to make up this batst crazy and arbitary 0.7% of gdp foreign aid spending figure somehow.

Reminds me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm6kl17HH9s

[Fonz]

I'd like to second that post from MB as one of the best that I have read on PH. You have hit the nail right on the head. Thank you.

[anonymous-user]

Andrew Lilico on Twitter

It's impossible to avoid the thought that that 4-6% margin that the murder of Jo Cox cost the Leave vote in 2016 has had a profound impact on politics. (Leave was 10% ahead & rising, before her horrific murder.) One of the most influential assassinations in British history.

https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/107320095...

[poo at Paul's]

JPJPJP said:

Andrew Lilico on Twitter

One of the most influential assassinations in British history.

https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/107320095...

I don't buy it, I think that is just opinion and conjecture, tbh. No disrespect to her, but very few people knew who she was, yes some of her constituents and some political gurus would have, but probably 90% + of the population did not know her before her death and whilst sympathetic to her plight, probably the same sort of percentage have moved on and don't give it a second thought since.

The result was still the result and it has not changed anything as far as I am concerned. Just shows how opinions can differ, I suppose.