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turbobloke said:
poo at Paul's said:
Looks like you guys may be correct.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326
So Merkel says 'no need to be nasty' in leaving talks, as she's now paying the piper almost single-handedly she'll get to call the tune. Nothing too new about that.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326
"But politicians are talking tough. Concessions, they say, might encourage other member states to leave. For this reason one senior MP told me: "There must be consequences for Britain".
Surely those in the EU should want to be in the EU. There is something wrong if they don't.
They are suggesting that they punish GB to deter others doing the same! What sort of organisation is that?!
Make the EU something that countries want to belong to and they will stay of their own free will.
All this talk of deterring potential leavers just shows how bad the EU has become.
I was going to say 'unbelievable' but it's not!
wilwak said:
They are suggesting that they punish GB to deter others doing the same! What sort of organisation is that?!
One which isn't worth being a part of. They're puffing out their chests to stop the whiff of adrenaline in their undies from reaching their nose.There will be a second referendum at some point but it'll be the Dutch or the Danes organising it.
The EU can stomp and shout but they have no means of preventing it.
wilwak said:
Make the EU something that countries want to belong to and they will stay of their own free will.
Quite. It's all self-inflicted but the pompous arrogant undemocratic eurodrones won't see it.danllama said:
Has anyone else just been very, very happy for the last two days? 
Definitely feeling a bit lighter on my feet.
Not at all. Definitely feeling a bit lighter on my feet.
It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
schmalex said:
Not at all.
It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
Where is this so called 'significant majority' coming from? How its this being confirmed ? Dave down the pub ? What is a significant majority - care to put a figure on that?It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
It's appears remainers don't think 17m people is a significant majority...
fizz47 said:
schmalex said:
Not at all.
It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
Where is this so called 'significant majority' coming from? How it's his being confirmed ? Dave down the pub ? What is a significant majority - care to put a figure on that?It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
It's appears remainers don't think 17m people is a significant majority...
sidicks said:
schmalex said:
Not at all.
It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
So the 'losers' keep suggesting...It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
I was also told that "it'll spread the wealth more evenly around all counties, rather than bottle it up in the South East"
and
"Of course people will still come to live and work in London - it's ine of the world's biggest financial centres and that won't change..."
Beggars belief, really.
Isn't that always been part of the problem, the EU is a petty bureaucrats wet dream, very Frence and the exact opposit to the way the Anglo Saxon brain works. Petty spite, verging on what we would consider to be childish, is common place. I've sat in meetings with our French counterparts, agreed something only for them to not endorse the minutes and try to rewrite history to their favour after the fact. Whereas the Germans are good to work with and we share more common ground and an ethos that is spookily close.
fizz47 said:
schmalex said:
Not at all.
It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
Where is this so called 'significant majority' coming from? How its this being confirmed ? Dave down the pub ? What is a significant majority - care to put a figure on that?It appears that a significant majority of people who voted leave didn't actually understand the step 2 implication of the question they were being asked.
It's appears remainers don't think 17m people is a significant majority...
Read what I wrote properly and you'd give a completely different response...
robemcdonald said:
wilwak said:
I'm sipping a British beer knowing that last week it would have been an overseas one. Makes me feel better anyway.
Why the juddering f
k didn't you buy British last week if you're so passionate about it?Just trying to boost the numbers a little. Nothing else.
wilwak said:
"But politicians are talking tough. Concessions, they say, might encourage other member states to leave. For this reason one senior MP told me: "There must be consequences for Britain".
What type of organisation/politicians would willingly impose (or even suggest imposing) 'consequences' on a member state or former member state in order make an example of it and discourage others from doing the same - just because it followed the democratic will of it's people.If this is what we are currently part of - perhaps we are better off out of it.
schmalex said:
We're all "losers" with this result, sadly. The leave campaign has now been exposed to have been based on lies and deception. But that's fine; we'll "have to deal with less Blacks flooding in..." as I was told today by some ardent leave voters...
It sounds as though the people you speak to are as ignorant as you are.schmalex said:
I was also told that "it'll spread the wealth more evenly around all counties, rather than bottle it up in the South East"
and
"Of course people will still come to live and work in London - it's ine of the world's biggest financial centres and that won't change..."
Beggars belief, really.
WTF are you talking about?and
"Of course people will still come to live and work in London - it's ine of the world's biggest financial centres and that won't change..."
Beggars belief, really.
Moonhawk said:
What type of organisation/politicians would willingly impose (or even suggest imposing) 'consequences' on a member state or former member state in order make an example of it and discourage others from doing the same - just because it followed the democratic will of it's people.
If this is what we are currently part of - perhaps we are better off out of it.
Exactly the point i posted previously!If this is what we are currently part of - perhaps we are better off out of it.
Martin Schulz is an ex German mayor. Now he has somehow managed to get to be President of the European Parliament.
He's telling our Prime Minister what to do.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/to...
That, in a nutshell why people do not like the EU politicians. Jumped up lesser politicians who think more of their ideals of europe, rather than what the serfs, sorry people, in it want.
Far better response from Angela Merkel today, a lady who has gone along the same path as our PM and who is answerable to the people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326
He's telling our Prime Minister what to do.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/to...
That, in a nutshell why people do not like the EU politicians. Jumped up lesser politicians who think more of their ideals of europe, rather than what the serfs, sorry people, in it want.
Far better response from Angela Merkel today, a lady who has gone along the same path as our PM and who is answerable to the people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326
Just saw this on Facebook, so true!
Never, in any political process I have witnessed, has the collective might of the state media sought to tell the majority of the people that they were wrong following a vote. That is until until the 24th of June in the UK. Yes, the British people exercised their democratic right to vote against the European Union, a right which had been denied them by successive Prime Ministers since John Major. But the reporting of this momentous event, which should have been a celebration of democracy, has been nothing but appalling virtue signalling.
We know that most journalists in the BBC would have preferred a remain vote, but that doesn’t exempt them from their legal requirement to political neutrality. For the first 24 hours following the referendum result, presenter after presenter has sought to force their own bitter disappointment down the throat of everybody in the country. They have found a line of equally bitter stooges to continue the campaign they already lost, to again tell 51.9% of the voting population that they are stupid. The air time given to the people who managed to win the referendum has been at best minimal and, even then, the presenters have shouted overt disgust over their words.
At one stage this reporting got so bad, they even dragged an obvious drunk from a park bench, clutching a can of red-stripe, to ask him to justify his apparent Leave vote.
Never, in any political process I have witnessed, has the collective might of the state media sought to tell the majority of the people that they were wrong following a vote. That is until until the 24th of June in the UK. Yes, the British people exercised their democratic right to vote against the European Union, a right which had been denied them by successive Prime Ministers since John Major. But the reporting of this momentous event, which should have been a celebration of democracy, has been nothing but appalling virtue signalling.
We know that most journalists in the BBC would have preferred a remain vote, but that doesn’t exempt them from their legal requirement to political neutrality. For the first 24 hours following the referendum result, presenter after presenter has sought to force their own bitter disappointment down the throat of everybody in the country. They have found a line of equally bitter stooges to continue the campaign they already lost, to again tell 51.9% of the voting population that they are stupid. The air time given to the people who managed to win the referendum has been at best minimal and, even then, the presenters have shouted overt disgust over their words.
At one stage this reporting got so bad, they even dragged an obvious drunk from a park bench, clutching a can of red-stripe, to ask him to justify his apparent Leave vote.
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