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fatboy18 said:
So that makes it ok then for So called Celebs who did not like the way it went to scream it out from the stages instead of embracing and respecting the decision and encourage unity amongst them all.
One of the Great things I loved about Elvis was that he chose not to get political.
Celebs should stick to their day job expertise in public.One of the Great things I loved about Elvis was that he chose not to get political.
fatboy18 said:
rscott said:
fatboy18 said:
BBC now broadcasting from a muddy field where many people could not be bothered to vote, So called Celeb musicians saying we were tucked up. 
On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
Apparently Glastonbury were including information with the tickets telling people that they needed to make sure they'd completed their postal vote. And no, they weren't telling them which way to vote!On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
One of the Great things I loved about Elvis was that he chose not to get political.
rscott said:
fatboy18 said:
rscott said:
fatboy18 said:
BBC now broadcasting from a muddy field where many people could not be bothered to vote, So called Celeb musicians saying we were tucked up.
On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
Apparently Glastonbury were including information with the tickets telling people that they needed to make sure they'd completed their postal vote. And no, they weren't telling them which way to vote!On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
One of the Great things I loved about Elvis was that he chose not to get political.
Thanks for the information, Interesting on the tickets, how many weeks did the tickets go out before the event?fatboy18 said:
BBC now broadcasting from a muddy field where many people could not be bothered to vote, So called Celeb musicians saying we were tucked up.
On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
Has HSBC said so much?On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
Last I heard they were relocating 1000 staff in the Euro division to Paris but keeping the other 47,000 in the UK.
Has it all changed?
Jockman said:
fatboy18 said:
BBC now broadcasting from a muddy field where many people could not be bothered to vote, So called Celeb musicians saying we were tucked up.
On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
Has HSBC said so much?On another note, I bank with HSBC Business banking, if they pull out of the UK I will be closing my accounts and moving them to a better bank.
Last I heard they were relocating 1000 staff in the Euro division to Paris but keeping the other 47,000 in the UK.
Has it all changed?
Could be media still spreading more gloom, But I will be watching carefully. Might have a word with them next week as I have MY Country's interest at heart and if they start shedding Jobs that will send out the wrong message. 
The stark reality is that no-one will want to negotiate terms for an exit, as they're damned if the do and damned if they don't. No politician wants to be the man or woman who presses the button to take the UK out of Europe. It's not only career suicide, but will also create a lasting legacy that no-one will want.
I voted Remain. However, I do believe that, in the fullness of time, the UK could be much better off outside of what the EU is becoming.
My utopia would be to stay in the EU but have a fundamental renegotiation of our terms of membership. My gut feel is that this is what we'll be offered by Brussels and after some posturing will, most probably, accept.
My £50 goes on a quick Conservative leadership challenge, a snap election in the Autumn while Labour are in complete disarray, a further 5 year Tory mandate and a gentle climb down from Brexit.
I voted Remain. However, I do believe that, in the fullness of time, the UK could be much better off outside of what the EU is becoming.
My utopia would be to stay in the EU but have a fundamental renegotiation of our terms of membership. My gut feel is that this is what we'll be offered by Brussels and after some posturing will, most probably, accept.
My £50 goes on a quick Conservative leadership challenge, a snap election in the Autumn while Labour are in complete disarray, a further 5 year Tory mandate and a gentle climb down from Brexit.
schmalex said:
The stark reality is that no-one will want to negotiate terms for an exit, as they're damned if the do and damned if they don't. No politician wants to be the man or woman who presses the button to take the UK out of Europe. It's not only career suicide, but will also create a lasting legacy that no-one will want.
I voted Remain. However, I do believe that, in the fullness of time, the UK could be much better off outside of what the EU is becoming.
My utopia would be to stay in the EU but have a fundamental renegotiation of our terms of membership. My gut feel is that this is what we'll be offered by Brussels and after some posturing will, most probably, accept.
My £50 goes on a quick Conservative leadership challenge, a snap election in the Autumn while Labour are in complete disarray, a further 5 year Tory mandate and a gentle climb down from Brexit.
I have much the same feeling, we'll end up pretty much where we were but with a bloody financial nose. I voted Remain. However, I do believe that, in the fullness of time, the UK could be much better off outside of what the EU is becoming.
My utopia would be to stay in the EU but have a fundamental renegotiation of our terms of membership. My gut feel is that this is what we'll be offered by Brussels and after some posturing will, most probably, accept.
My £50 goes on a quick Conservative leadership challenge, a snap election in the Autumn while Labour are in complete disarray, a further 5 year Tory mandate and a gentle climb down from Brexit.
PositronicRay said:
The thing is you haven't, you've voiced an opinion. That's all.
If you're worried about the economic impact of leaving the EU, you might like to, briefly, consider the impact of politicians telling the populace, "screw you we'll do what we want. I don't think it would be pretty. M3333 said:
fatboy18 said:
So instead of all bloody worrying that the Sky has fallen, here's my take on it 
GREAT BRITAIN DAY 23/6/2016
Im Proud that we have chosen to Govern ourselves
Could not agree more. GREAT BRITAIN DAY 23/6/2016
Im Proud that we have chosen to Govern ourselves
sidicks said:
handpaper said:
Here's a result I wasn't expecting - I agree with Owen Jones :
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun...
He's not saying anything much, but that in itself is a surprise!
"This was not a vote on the undeniable lack of accountability and transparency of the European Union."https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun...
He's not saying anything much, but that in itself is a surprise!
Wrong in many cases.
If you've read his books (and I have and enjoyed em for the most part) he makes a tonne of interesting points but tends to get lost on his way to the point sometimes. He's angry but it's often difficult to tell who with (see his TV storm-out re: Orlando - I got his anger but not how/when he was directing it - it also felt like he was just looking for a reason to storm-off)
I 'think' he's saying "People are pissed-off" - not exactly news and the main thing to take away here is however pissed-off they are, we're no closer to knowing why and no more likely to take action which will resolve it.
If the paper had said "Replace Cameron with Boris and start on a highly risky economic venture" or "Dont' do that" - would we have had a 52/48 vote?
Edited by 405dogvan on Sunday 26th June 16:52
schmalex said:
The stark reality is that no-one will want to negotiate terms for an exit, as they're damned if the do and damned if they don't. No politician wants to be the man or woman who presses the button to take the UK out of Europe. It's not only career suicide, but will also create a lasting legacy that no-one will want.
Nonsense. There are highly competent back benchers with very relevant experience. Peter Lilly and John Redwood spring to mind. Think of it like rolling out the Vulcans for the Falkland war, the return of some cold war warriors for a final hurrah.handpaper said:
Here's a result I wasn't expecting - I agree with Owen Jones :
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun...
He's not saying anything much, but that in itself is a surprise!
Millions of Britons feel that a metropolitan elite rules the roost which not only doesn’t understand their values and lives, but actively hates them.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun...
He's not saying anything much, but that in itself is a surprise!
I think we've got a few of these on here....
el stovey said:
The irony is that you are celebrating "Great Britain day" with english flags (with England actually written on the front) and beer with Glorious English on the can. This is exactly where all the "little Englander" criticism of some English voters comes from.
In fairness, that brewery has a division in Scotland which is shamelessly "sporran and kilt och aye" too - marketing to nationists works! Xeno-marketing if you like...We may be about to leave the EU - we are also certainly about to leave 'Britain' too (or more specifically, kill Britain)
405dogvan said:
In fairness, that brewery has a division in Scotland which is shamelessly "sporran and kilt och aye" too - marketing to nationists works! Xeno-marketing if you like...
We may be about to leave the EU - we are also certainly about to leave 'Britain' too (or more specifically, kill Britain)
Drivel.We may be about to leave the EU - we are also certainly about to leave 'Britain' too (or more specifically, kill Britain)
s2art said:
405dogvan said:
In fairness, that brewery has a division in Scotland which is shamelessly "sporran and kilt och aye" too - marketing to nationists works! Xeno-marketing if you like...
We may be about to leave the EU - we are also certainly about to leave 'Britain' too (or more specifically, kill Britain)
Drivel.We may be about to leave the EU - we are also certainly about to leave 'Britain' too (or more specifically, kill Britain)
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