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[s2art]

405dogvan said:

s2art said:

405dogvan said:

In fairness, that brewery has a division in Scotland which is shamelessly "sporran and kilt och aye" too - marketing to nationists works! Xeno-marketing if you like...

We may be about to leave the EU - we are also certainly about to leave 'Britain' too (or more specifically, kill Britain)

Drivel.

If Scotland leaves (as they clearly intend to do whenever possible) - what will be left of Britain - or has Britain always been a code-word for England in your world?

The Scots are not daft. Once things have calmed down and they consider the consequences (out of EU and UK) they will not vote to leave. Anyway nothing will kill 'Britain' other than an asteroid strike, its an island not a political thing.

[fatboy18]

el stovey said:

M3333 said:

fatboy18 said:

So instead of all bloody worrying that the Sky has fallen, here's my take on it

GREAT BRITAIN DAY 23/6/2016







Im Proud that we have chosen to Govern ourselves

Could not agree more.

The irony is that you are celebrating "Great Britain day" with english flags (with England actually written on the front) and beer with Glorious English on the can. This is exactly where all the "little Englander" criticism of some English voters comes from.

Did you not notice the TWO UNION FLAGS Northern Ireland Voted out, Wales Voted out England Voted out and Scotland is currently part of Great Britain. Yes I'm an Englander but we embrace the fact that We're British and when our backs are against the wall it brings out the best in the Country, time for ALL of us to come together and make Britain GREAT.

Come on people POSITIVE THINKING

Edited by fatboy18 on Sunday 26th June 17:04

[johnxjsc1985]

https://youtu.be/3AQ-D_OnF-E

[Halb]

ash73 said:

You said maybe that's what's needed, ergo it's a good idea.

Forget it, you're too stupid to debate with.

YOu've acted like an ignorant , if you can't comprehend, you should at least ask to clarify, but instead of admitting it, you chose to assume and then act like an ignorant .

[fatboy18]

johnxjsc1985 said:

https://youtu.be/3AQ-D_OnF-E

That's the Sprit Lets get moving and kick it forward.

[schmalex]

s2art said:

schmalex said:

The stark reality is that no-one will want to negotiate terms for an exit, as they're damned if the do and damned if they don't. No politician wants to be the man or woman who presses the button to take the UK out of Europe. It's not only career suicide, but will also create a lasting legacy that no-one will want.

Nonsense. There are highly competent back benchers with very relevant experience. Peter Lilly and John Redwood spring to mind. Think of it like rolling out the Vulcans for the Falkland war, the return of some cold war warriors for a final hurrah.

Oh. I don't doubt that they are more than capable. However, having the will to want to be named as the person who took the UK out of the EU is something entirely different.

[Halb]

mondeoman said:

Millions of Britons feel that a metropolitan elite rules the roost which not only doesn’t understand their values and lives, but actively hates them.

I think we've got a few of these on here....

They must be the ones that get paid to post.

[anonymous-user]

405dogvan said:

I 'think' he's saying "People are pissed-off" - not exactly news and the main thing to take away here is however pissed-off they are, we're no closer to knowing why and no more likely to take action which will resolve it.

He seemed to be saying working class people are fed up with a range of issues like immigration, being marginalised and ignored and a widening wealth gap. They feel Labour no longer represents them. They are fed up with the status quo and this referendum was finally a chance to say "up yours" to the ruling elite. They voted to leave the EU despite every bit of evidence from anyone connected to business or the economy saying it was a bad idea. They don't care about the economy because they're not that well off anyway.

Experts in the USA have been warning about the widening wealth gap for years. The (poorer) people eventually having enough and coming with their pitchforks. They're not going to have a french revolution but they're going to vote in Trump because they, like working class voters in the UK are sick of traditional party politics and politicians who longer represent them.

[Jockman]

el stovey said:

Experts in the USA have been warning about the widening wealth gap for years. The (poorer) people eventually having enough and coming with their pitchforks. They're not going to have a french revolution but they're going to vote in Trump because they, like working class voters in the UK are sick of traditional party politics and politicians who longer represent them.

It wouldn't surprise me at all. We live in the days of the 'underdog' it would appear.

[Halb]

There was a really good doc, or maybe docdrama on a few years ago. Set in the 20s I think I recall, with gated communities on the rise and a two tier populace solidifying.

The last time things got dicey in the UK was after the First World War I think...

edit to add.
The Battle of George Square, that was it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_George_Squ...

Edited by Halb on Sunday 26th June 17:19

[don4l]

///ajd said:

Can you give me some of the positive highlights of the result since it was declared?

I saw that Marine Le Pen thought it was good.

Anything else positive?

Has Putin offered his congrats yet, or Trump?

The fact that you lost is a positive highlight for a majority of people in the UK.

[anonymous-user]

don4l said:

///ajd said:

Can you give me some of the positive highlights of the result since it was declared?

I saw that Marine Le Pen thought it was good.

Anything else positive?

Has Putin offered his congrats yet, or Trump?

The fact that you lost is a positive highlight for a majority of people in the UK.

Right but the other slightly smaller number of the voters think it's a bad idea, as do our own government, the opposition, all the economists, business leaders, financial experts, leaders of other countries etc etc.

It appears to only be Donald Trump who thought it was good and he said "They've taken their country back" to Scottish people, who wanted to remain.

Are you reading much positivity towards brexit anywhere? You'd think there would be celebrations going on everywhere if the majority had voted for something so monumental in our countries history. There's no good news to be found about Brexit anywhere.

[Einion Yrth]

el stovey said:

don4l said:

///ajd said:

Can you give me some of the positive highlights of the result since it was declared?

I saw that Marine Le Pen thought it was good.

Anything else positive?

Has Putin offered his congrats yet, or Trump?

The fact that you lost is a positive highlight for a majority of people in the UK.

Right but the other slightly smaller number of the voters think it's a bad idea, as do our own government, the opposition, all the economists, business leaders, financial experts, leaders of other countries etc etc.

It appears to only be Donald Trump who thought it was good and he said "They've taken their country back" to Scottish people, who wanted to remain.

Are you reading much positivity towards brexit anywhere? You'd think there would be celebrations going on everywhere if the majority had voted for something so monumental in our countries history. There's no good news to be found about Brexit anywhere.

I'll celebrate when article 50 is invoked. I'm old enough, and cynical enough to think it quite possible that the antidemocratic arses in this country will seek any means necessary to frustrate the will of the people.

[s2art]

schmalex said:

s2art said:

schmalex said:

The stark reality is that no-one will want to negotiate terms for an exit, as they're damned if the do and damned if they don't. No politician wants to be the man or woman who presses the button to take the UK out of Europe. It's not only career suicide, but will also create a lasting legacy that no-one will want.

Nonsense. There are highly competent back benchers with very relevant experience. Peter Lilly and John Redwood spring to mind. Think of it like rolling out the Vulcans for the Falkland war, the return of some cold war warriors for a final hurrah.

Oh. I don't doubt that they are more than capable. However, having the will to want to be named as the person who took the UK out of the EU is something entirely different.

If you read Redwoods blog you would realise he would relish the job. Dan Hannan too.

[Robertj21a]

405dogvan said:

If Scotland leaves (as they clearly intend to do whenever possible) - what will be left of Britain - or has Britain always been a code-word for England in your world?

Scotland won't leave. They can't afford to.

[Halb]

el stovey said:

There's no good news to be found about Brexit anywhere.

PH?

[Mr GrimNasty]

Robertj21a said:

405dogvan said:

If Scotland leaves (as they clearly intend to do whenever possible) - what will be left of Britain - or has Britain always been a code-word for England in your world?

Scotland won't leave. They can't afford to.

Keep saying it until the fools listen - SNP is all wind, Scotland would already be knocking on the door with a begging bowl if they'd left before.

The only way Scotland could survive is if they decided to become the industrial fracking centre of the world - but the SNP doesn't like fracking.

[gnc]

einon yrth, said,
I'll celebrate when article 50 is invoked. I'm old enough, and cynical enough to think it quite possible that the antidemocratic arses in this country will seek any means necessary to frustrate the will of the people

my sentiments excactly. thats why UKIP needs to stay, guess who would gain a lot of voters.

[turbobloke]

el stovey said:

There's no good news to be found about Brexit anywhere.

That's a shock, what with the UK media being unbiased.

Anyway, not so - look beyond the BBC and lefty rags and try a few righty rags though an article in a lefty rag reckons that we now have a fantastic opportunity to bring back control to a more localised level and assert more democratic control of our economy...the rest is crap though.

Other good news being reported fairly widely include the prospect of a Nexit, a Denexit and a Frexit. Don't bother checking the bookies for odds on each, they haven't got a forking clue.

[Halb]

What do the sagacious maesters think will happen in those other countries with a sizeable exit contingent?