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BIANCO said:
RichB said:
405dogvan said:
A lot depends on whether you're one of those people that think where you're born gives you some golden ticket to a home/job/livelihood in that place - as opposed to a system whereby the qualified candidate who'll work for the least is the one who gets the job.
Well you've completely changed the question and personalised it somewhat however as I never shy away from answering a direct question on Pistonheads, unlike others who avoid answering questions at all costs, I will try. You actually didn't cover a third train of thought and personally I believe that the best qualified candidate should get the job regardless of what county they were born in, be it England, the UK, the EU or the Rest of the World. I personally believe that locals do deserve a level of priority over others, its their families and ancestors that helped build this nations and the economy. We should be making sure that we have best candidate here already before we start importing others.
Remember will live in a democracy and many continue to think “screw them as long i'm doing ok who cares about the people at the bottom. Who cares if there communities are changed beyond recognition without their consent if they don't like it we can just call them racist ”. The peasants revolt and say f
k you lot and vote for things thats screw the people at the top. t load of money on the back of the fall of Sterling. They are probably wetting themselves with laughter. The people you have hurt the most are the people who benefit most from the EU. The average man in the street. While there is an EU gravy train for unelected politicians, it's far out weighed by the good that the EU did, by the money that was pumped into deprived areas.
While it was true that we are net contributors to the EU budget, the drop in GDP suffered by the UK economy probably axes any savings we would make from no longer contributing to the EU budget.
People talk of a rejuvenated UK, stronger and better for being out of the EU. Does anyone have any hard facts to back this up, or are we staking our children's future on a hunch?
As far as I can see we have just undertaken the biggest nose cutting exercise in history, and the ones to suffer most will be the poor and the weak, why? Because it's the way it's always been, and it's not about to change now.
Fittster said:
Didn't the US lose its S & P rating - a badge of honour 
Fittster said:
Which of course will have been orchestrated by Fuhrer Merkel and Juncker behind closed doors.All that jazz said:
Fittster said:
Which of course will have been orchestrated by Fuhrer Merkel and Juncker behind closed doors.Fittster said:
We are living in interesting times.jonnyb said:
As far as I can see we have just undertaken the biggest nose cutting exercise in history, and the ones to suffer most will be the poor and the weak, why? Because it's the way it's always been, and it's not about to change now.
This article made me chuckle: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/25/vi...Leave supporter said:
“What’s the EU ever done for us?” Zak Kelly, 21, asks me this standing next to a brand new complex of buildings and facilities that wouldn’t look out of place in Canary Wharf. It’s not Canary Wharf, though, it’s Ebbw Vale, a former steel town of 18,000 people in the heart of the Welsh valleys, where 62% of the population – the highest proportion in Wales – voted Leave.
To go there – along a new dual carriageway – and stand next to the town’s new sixth form and training college, a glass and steel architectural showpiece next to its new leisure centre, a few hundred yards away from a new train station, is to stare into the abyss of the UK’s failed Remain campaign.
Even Kelly, who has just finished a training session on a brand new football pitch, backtracks slightly after asking that question. “Well, I know … they built all this,” he says, and motions his head at the impressive facilities that are all around us.
To go there – along a new dual carriageway – and stand next to the town’s new sixth form and training college, a glass and steel architectural showpiece next to its new leisure centre, a few hundred yards away from a new train station, is to stare into the abyss of the UK’s failed Remain campaign.
Even Kelly, who has just finished a training session on a brand new football pitch, backtracks slightly after asking that question. “Well, I know … they built all this,” he says, and motions his head at the impressive facilities that are all around us.
Fittster said:
I think it's been a successful few days - a mp murdered, complete fustercluck of a campaign from both sides which sank to new lows, a nation divided, an increas ein racism, two bouts of political infighting going on, no-one in charge, the two 'winners' of the vote looking like someone has just shat in their soup as they realise what they have unleashed, racism up, shares down and the two of our closest allies basically telling us to fk off.Marvellous.
All that jazz said:
Fittster said:
Which of course will have been orchestrated by Fuhrer Merkel and Juncker behind closed doors.I'm not getting this "only thick, poor people voted Leave" thing. Exhibit A: my Facebook page. I have exactly one friend whingeing about the result: all the rest are busy posting pictures of their kids, dogs and horses, or taking the mickey out of the Remain campaign. Exhibit B: I was at a party on Saturday night bang in the middle of Cameron home turf, in one of the few parts of rural England that voted Remain. Not quite Chipping Norton set but not far off. Wealthy, degree-educated forty-somethings. I parked my £82 Peugeot 106 between an Audi Q7 and a brand new Range Rover. It looked lost 
Lots of talk about Brexit but all evening I only found one person who was prepared to admit to voting Remain, and she thought she might have been wrong. It's a more complex picture than the media would have us believe. But isn't that always the case?
Lots of talk about Brexit but all evening I only found one person who was prepared to admit to voting Remain, and she thought she might have been wrong. It's a more complex picture than the media would have us believe. But isn't that always the case?vonuber said:
Fittster said:
I think it's been a successful few days - a mp murdered, complete fustercluck of a campaign from both sides which sank to new lows, a nation divided, an increas ein racism, two bouts of political infighting going on, no-one in charge, the two 'winners' of the vote looking like someone has just shat in their soup as they realise what they have unleashed, racism up, shares down and the two of our closest allies basically telling us to fk off.Marvellous.
But other than those few minor details, everything's fine, isn't it?
vonuber said:
Fittster said:
I think it's been a successful few days - a mp murdered, complete fustercluck of a campaign from both sides which sank to new lows, a nation divided, an increas ein racism, two bouts of political infighting going on, no-one in charge, the two 'winners' of the vote looking like someone has just shat in their soup as they realise what they have unleashed, racism up, shares down and the two of our closest allies basically telling us to fk off.Marvellous.
vonuber said:
I think it's been a successful few days - a mp murdered, complete fustercluck of a campaign from both sides which sank to new lows, a nation divided, an increas ein racism, two bouts of political infighting going on, no-one in charge, the two 'winners' of the vote looking like someone has just shat in their soup as they realise what they have unleashed, racism up, shares down and the two of our closest allies basically telling us to fk off.
Marvellous.
And the Leave gang are complaining about the media only reporting the negatives.k off.Marvellous.
Do we even have any positives to report on yet?
TheInternet said:
vonuber said:
I think it's been a successful few days - a mp murdered, complete fustercluck of a campaign from both sides which sank to new lows, a nation divided, an increas ein racism, two bouts of political infighting going on, no-one in charge, the two 'winners' of the vote looking like someone has just shat in their soup as they realise what they have unleashed, racism up, shares down and the two of our closest allies basically telling us to fk off.
Marvellous.
And the Leave gang are complaining about the media only reporting the negatives.k off.Marvellous.
Do we even have any positives to report on yet?
TheInternet said:
And the Leave gang are complaining about the media only reporting the negatives.
Do we even have any positives to report on yet?
No, negative spin created by the remain campaign has caused the risk averse, knee jerk markets to respond accordingly. A self fulfilling prophecy with no good short term news. WRT to the politicians, if they had the courage of their convictions in the first place, none would need to resign. A problem with career politicians not the referendum.Do we even have any positives to report on yet?
Over time, the real position will emerge and we can the take the view on success or failure of this. Meantime, keep spreading the doom, the result will follow short term until we get time to prove it different.
We ain't even up out of the EU yet. SNAFU with added negativity.
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