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[turbobloke]

Efbe said:

turbobloke said:

Eric Mc said:

Interesting demographic -

University Educated - 70% remain

GCSE or lower - 30% remain

Presumably that includes students or grads on courses such as Beckhamology.

These days between 30% and 40% of students go on to higher education with around 170 institutions housing over 1 million late sleepers.

Post-war through the 60s and 70s the number of HE institutions was closer to 30 and the proportion of 18-year olds going to uni climbed slowly from 2% pre-war through 5% post-war to the current state where you can get a degree in Flower Arranging (Professional Floristry and Floral Design) which makes you highly educated...in flower arranging naturally.

To make the same sweeping false generalisation as the above stat, we have Beckham fans and flower arrangers voting Ramain.

This statistic doesn't make sense though. quite obviously fake.

What about college educated?
Given that students must now stay on at school until 18, no-one will come out with just GCSE level, at very least they will have a-levels or level-Whatever it is now for apprenticeships etc.

The point you make about recent raising of the participation age is spot on. It wouldn't surprise me to find that the original stat was dodgy but I don't have any evidence so took it at face value.

[London424]

I see Barry O has popped up. You'll never guess what he's saying?

[turbobloke]

London424 said:

I see Barry O has popped up. You'll never guess what he's saying?

He's calling for calm, then done a U-ey and has promoted the UK to the front of the queue for a trade deal?

The king EU is dead, long live the king saint.

Edited by turbobloke on Tuesday 28th June 15:10

[London424]

turbobloke said:

London424 said:

I see Barry O has popped up. You'll never guess what he's saying?

He's calling for calm, then done a U-ey and has promoted the UK to the front of the queue for a trade deal?

The king EU is dead, long live the king saint.

Edited by turbobloke on Tuesday 28th June 15:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9S3KFSgAj0&feature=youtu.be

[Murph7355]

London424 said:

I see Barry O has popped up. You'll never guess what he's saying?

From The Guardian (first link I came across):

Obama said:

“There’s been a little bit of hysteria post-Brexit vote, as if somehow Nato’s gone, the trans-Atlantic alliance is dissolving, and every country is rushing off to its own corner. That’s not what’s happening,” Obama told National Public Radio in an interview that aired on Tuesday.

Perhaps he should have thought about that before he opened his mouth during campaigning....

[CrutyRammers]

youngsyr said:

My point is that university courses teach you the skills needed for and gives you experience in research, analysis and critical thinking. It has nothing to do with intelligence or even knowledge.

It therefore doesn't really matter which subject you study; the mere fact that you've spent 3 or 4 years studying it at undergraduate level will tend to give you better abilities in those areas than someone who hasn't spent 3 or 4 years doing it.

The recent graduates at my place of work have done their best to convince me otherwise over the last few weeks
I'm not at all convinced that all modern graduates are better at analysis and critical thinking than, say the over-50s from similar backgrounds. Anecdotally I have certainly seen no evidence of this. And people of all kinds who can be very analytical in some work situations appear to be able to turn it off completely and revert to tribal morons when it comes to politics, particularly.

[Esseesse]

Murph7355 said:

Perhaps he should have thought about that before he opened his mouth during campaigning....

Indeed. Strange really, Trump actually more diplomatic than Barry.

[Jockman]

Esseesse said:

Murph7355 said:

Perhaps he should have thought about that before he opened his mouth during campaigning....

Indeed. Strange really, Trump actually more diplomatic than Barry.

Let's not take the analogy too far.....

[SpeckledJim]

Murph7355 said:

London424 said:

I see Barry O has popped up. You'll never guess what he's saying?

From The Guardian (first link I came across):

Obama said:

“There’s been a little bit of hysteria post-Brexit vote, as if somehow Nato’s gone, the trans-Atlantic alliance is dissolving, and every country is rushing off to its own corner. That’s not what’s happening,” Obama told National Public Radio in an interview that aired on Tuesday.

Perhaps he should have thought about that before he opened his mouth during campaigning....

I guess Cameron had basically promised Obama there was no way Remain would fail when he put Obama up to saying what he did about 'back of the queue'.

Egg on faces all-round.

[irocfan]

Murph7355 said:

Perhaps he should have thought about that before he opened his mouth during campaigning....

indeed - that being said it was a good clip on youtube

[Stickyfinger]

funny how he BBC refuses to show Le Penn's speech in support of the UK

https://youtu.be/EnvCsKut96A?t=5

[Jimbeaux]

The U.K.'s military assets can now be concentrated in NATO if the exit goes through. No more need to divide between NATO & EU missions; let "all" those other militaries do that.

[///ajd]

sidicks said:

youngsyr said:

davepoth said:

On the basis that gilt yields have reached a historic low, the market perceives UK debt to be less risky than it has been at any point in history.

Errr, no.

Agreed. But the point was to refute the stupid claims made by the original poster about how we'd be facing increased borrowing costs.

youngsyr said:

Guardian said:

If Britain really was considered a safe haven in times of trouble, sterling would be going up on the foreign exchanges rather than falling against the dollar, euro and yen.

Not necessarily true for local investors.

Glad we got there in the end.

[KrissKross]

Stickyfinger said:

funny how he BBC refuses to show Le Penn's speech in support of the UK

https://youtu.be/EnvCsKut96A?t=5

There are also many positive interviews and media reports from the USA and other parts of the world.

Shame they are not being shown here.

Anyone still pay their TV licence?

[Jimbeaux]

KrissKross said:

Stickyfinger said:

funny how he BBC refuses to show Le Penn's speech in support of the UK

https://youtu.be/EnvCsKut96A?t=5

There are also many positive interviews and media reports from the USA and other parts of the world.

Shame they are not being shown here.

Anyone still pay their TV licence?

This is true, the BBC seems almost as bad as MSNBC...almost.

[fatboy18]

Jimbeaux said:

KrissKross said:

Stickyfinger said:

funny how he BBC refuses to show Le Penn's speech in support of the UK

https://youtu.be/EnvCsKut96A?t=5

There are also many positive interviews and media reports from the USA and other parts of the world.

Shame they are not being shown here.

Anyone still pay their TV licence?

This is true, the BBC seems almost as bad as MSNBC...almost.

Completely agree, this really shows you how far left the media is

[fatboy18]

I did notice this evening that the BBC has bought in presenter Fiona Bruce, presenter of Antiques Roadshow! Is the EU now a Relic and people are wondering what it's worth

[sidicks]

///ajd said:

Glad we got there in the end.

Have you? You were previously saying that the downgrade would increase borrowing costs - you've finally accepted that you were wrong?

[MiggyA]

glazbagun said:

Like the people searching "what is the EU?" after we voted to leave?

https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=What%20i...

IMO it's most likely children (pre voting age) who made those searches; after all kids now have easy access to the internet and are probably bemused by all this furore. Sure there might be some adult morons too, but to just assume so is rather biased. The volume of searches wasn't massive anyway, try sticking some other terms in to get some perspective.

[paul789]

http://news.sky.com/story/1718832/brexit-jobs-thre...