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[Welshbeef]

Visa and Vodaphone (HQ strongly looking to relocate) out of the U.K.

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[sidicks]

mike9009 said:

I thought 'Brexiters' didn't want money to go to the EU?

'They' don't want money to go to the failed EU political project.

Trading goods and services with other countries, including EU countries, makes us all richer.

mike9009 said:

Buying British manufactured cars/ products will encourage money to stay in the UK and help growth - damaging our undemocratic lovelies in the EU?

It's not the other businesses in the EU which are undemocratic.

[voyds9]

mike9009 said:

I thought 'Brexiters' didn't want money to go to the EU? Buying British manufactured cars/ products will encourage money to stay in the UK and help growth - damaging our undemocratic lovelies in the EU?

Who said Brexiters didn't want money to go to Europe, we don't want to give money to Europe but we don't mind trading.

After all we are a nation of shopkeppers

[mike9009]

fatboy18 said:

This list is not quite up to date but there are quite a few to choose from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufact...

Not quite what I meant. The Honda Civic (Swindon), Nissan Note/ Qashquai (spelling), MINI, Rolls Royce, Lotus etc., will all put money into the UK economy rather than into the EU economy. I dread to think how much money we give to BMW/ Audi (Germany) each week and put into their economy?

So how many Brexitters will support UK manufacturing?

[fatboy18]

mike9009 said:

fatboy18 said:

This list is not quite up to date but there are quite a few to choose from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_car_manufact...

Not quite what I meant. The Honda Civic (Swindon), Nissan Note/ Qashquai (spelling), MINI, Rolls Royce, Lotus etc., will all put money into the UK economy rather than into the EU economy. I dread to think how much money we give to BMW/ Audi (Germany) each week and put into their economy?

So how many Brexitters will support UK manufacturing?

I'm trying to, even with food shopping

[BlueHave]

Welshbeef said:

Visa and Vodaphone (HQ strongly looking to relocate) out of the U.K.

On Sky news breaking news!

I'd say most of these big multinationals are using Brexit as an excuse to leave the UK.

[mike9009]

BlueHave said:

I'd say most of these big multinationals are using Brexit as an excuse to leave the UK.

Really? Why?

[gooner1]

mike9009 said:

Really? Why?

Possibly for the same reason for relocating Call centres.

[mike9009]

sidicks said:

mike9009 said:

I thought 'Brexiters' didn't want money to go to the EU?

'They' don't want money to go to the failed EU political project.

Trading goods and services with other countries, including EU countries, makes us all richer.

mike9009 said:

Buying British manufactured cars/ products will encourage money to stay in the UK and help growth - damaging our undemocratic lovelies in the EU?

It's not the other businesses in the EU which are undemocratic.

Unfortunately, German businesses are in Germany. Thus they will pay German corporation tax. Their employees will pay German income tax and German VAT (plus whatever taxes there are) These taxes are collected by Merkel and then spent on undemocratic EU projects at will.

How much does the UK spend per week with BMW and Audi? Quite a lot, I think, as it was frequently given as a reason the EU would never allow tariffs for BMWs/ Audis into the UK because of the volume.....

So why don't Brexitters buy British manufactured goods?

Mike

[whoami]

mike9009 said:

Unfortunately, German busineses are in Germany. Thus they will pay German corporation tax. Their employees will pay German income tax and German VAT (plus whatever taxes there are) These taxes are collected by Merkel and then spent on undemocratic EU projects at will.

How much does the UK spend per week with BMW and Audi? Quite a lot I think as it was frequently given as a reason the EU would never allow tariffs for BMWs/ Audis into the UK because of the volume.....

So why don't Brexitters buy British manufactured goods?

Mike

I do.

[Trabi601]

mike9009 said:

Unfortunately, German busineses are in Germany. Thus they will pay German corporation tax. Their employees will pay German income tax and German VAT (plus whatever taxes there are) These taxes are collected by Merkel and then spent on undemocratic EU projects at will.

How much does the UK spend per week with BMW and Audi? Quite a lot I think as it was frequently given as a reason the EU would never allow tariffs for BMWs/ Audis into the UK because of the volume.....

So why don't Brexitters buy British manufactured goods?

Mike

Let me see.

3 series of CashCow?

[mike9009]

whoami said:

I do.

Nice one - didn't check your garage before posting But on a random sample of 5 Brexiters in this thread not one had a British manufactured car (other than one classic Healey - very nice too - but I suspect the people who manufactured that are long gone )

[anonymous-user]

Welshbeef said:

Visa and Vodaphone (HQ strongly looking to relocate) out of the U.K.

On Sky news breaking news!

You can probably get a half decent signal on Vodafone elsewhere in Europe. It's a bag of ste in the North of England

[Trabi601]

mike9009 said:

Nice one - didn't check your garage before posting But on a random sample of 5 Brexiters in this thread not one had a British manufactured car (other than one classic Healey - very nice too - but I suspect the people who manufactured that are long gone )

Isn't the Healey brand now owned by BMW?

[Stickyfinger]

Yes. Healey "name" is BMW owned, not sure about Austin


Car choices
New Cars or 2nd hand keeping the money in the UK ?

Edited by Stickyfinger on Tuesday 28th June 22:46

[jjlynn27]

techiedave said:

Welshbeef said:

Visa and Vodaphone (HQ strongly looking to relocate) out of the U.K.

On Sky news breaking news!

You can probably get a half decent signal on Vodafone elsewhere in Europe. It's a bag of ste in the North of England

Just take a second and re-read your reply.

[sidicks]

mike9009 said:

Unfortunately, German businesses are in Germany. Thus they will pay German corporation tax. Their employees will pay German income tax and German VAT (plus whatever taxes there are) These taxes are collected by Merkel and then spent on undemocratic EU projects at will.

How much does the UK spend per week with BMW and Audi? Quite a lot, I think, as it was frequently given as a reason the EU would never allow tariffs for BMWs/ Audis into the UK because of the volume.....

So why don't Brexitters buy British manufactured goods?

Mike

If you think that supporting Brexit means you can only buy UK goods and services, you're very confused!

[mike9009]

Trabi601 said:

mike9009 said:

Nice one - didn't check your garage before posting But on a random sample of 5 Brexiters in this thread not one had a British manufactured car (other than one classic Healey - very nice too - but I suspect the people who manufactured that are long gone )

Isn't the Healey brand now owned by BMW?

Probably (or the Chinese?). But I think it was an Austin Healy 3000 which was British made.

[vonuber]

Welshbeef said:

Visa and Vodaphone (HQ strongly looking to relocate) out of the U.K.

On Sky news breaking news!

Stop it with the negativity in this brave new world!

[mike9009]

sidicks said:

mike9009 said:

Unfortunately, German businesses are in Germany. Thus they will pay German corporation tax. Their employees will pay German income tax and German VAT (plus whatever taxes there are) These taxes are collected by Merkel and then spent on undemocratic EU projects at will.

How much does the UK spend per week with BMW and Audi? Quite a lot, I think, as it was frequently given as a reason the EU would never allow tariffs for BMWs/ Audis into the UK because of the volume.....



So why don't Brexitters buy British manufactured goods?

Mike


If you think that supporting Brexit means you can only buy UK goods and services, you're very confused!

Si,

I am not saying BMWs and Audis will not be available in the UK. We, as a nation, should support buying UK goods and services. By this we will generate greater tax returns in this country (and not EU countries) to then spend on the NHS, education, reducing taxes or whatever we wish to do. This will make us more successful as a nation on our own. Siphoning money into other economies will not enable us to prosper and grow as a nation on our own. It is a mechanism to make Britain better.

I do accept that many of the profits will return to the home of the owner of the companies, but the knock-on effects to other supporting industries (Steel industry for example) will bring greater tax returns in Britain.

I am not confused, just worried that Brexitters (in general ) do not fully understand economics, which was ably demonstrated on another thread I participated in about trade deals.

This has always been the case (so not specially for the current situation we are in). However, it would really help make our country prosper. If 50% of BMW buyers in Britain turned to Jaguar/ Land Rover, the difference to UK tax returns would be fairly immense (sorry I cannot quantify this....but it seemed okay to provide fictional figures during the build-up to the referendum - from both side before anyone jumps down my throat!) Unless Brexitters do not want this?

Mike

Edit : to sort quotes out!

Edited by mike9009 on Tuesday 28th June 22:58