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[FiF]

Ignoring all the tedious sniping, possibly realism starting to appear here and there.

Freedom of movement reform 'on the table' for Brexit talks, suggests French minister as he breaks ranks with rest of EU

Obviously on the table for discussion doesn't mean agreement will be made or even easy, or even genuinely up for discussion, but indicates not as cut and dried as Juncker et al claim.

[rpguk]

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

That graph say 'net exports' so perhaps they mean we import somewhere around £16-20Bn booze/tobacco leaving import/export balanced?

[s2art]

rpguk said:

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

That graph say 'net exports' so perhaps they mean we import somewhere around £16-20Bn booze/tobacco leaving import/export balanced?

You are obviously correct. My mistake.

[mybrainhurts]

turbobloke said:

Disastrous said:

Even the Brexit main man knows it was a st idea and has legged it, haha!

As it happens, there's no evidence for that.

Correct, that was a disastrous post.

[youngsyr]

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

Where are you getting those figures?

HMRC has April's exports of Beverages, spirits and vinegar at £210m for EU and £335m for non-EU - that's £6.5 billion on an annual basis, for both alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, plus vinegar.

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTra...

[s2art]

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

Where are you getting those figures?

HMRC has April's exports of Beverages, spirits and vinegar at £210m for EU and £335m for non-EU - that's £6.5 billion on an annual basis, for both alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, plus vinegar.

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTra...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9967131/Scotch-whisky-exports-rise-to-record-value.html

And I read that Scotch counts for approx 25% of drink exports.

[s2art]

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

Where are you getting those figures?

HMRC has April's exports of Beverages, spirits and vinegar at £210m for EU and £335m for non-EU - that's £6.5 billion on an annual basis, for both alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, plus vinegar.

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTra...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9967131/Scotch-whisky-exports-rise-to-record-value.html

And I read that Scotch counts for approx 25% of food and drink exports.

[mybrainhurts]

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

If you look at that pie from above, instead of sideways, it doesn't quite have the intended effect..

[youngsyr]

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

Where are you getting those figures?

HMRC has April's exports of Beverages, spirits and vinegar at £210m for EU and £335m for non-EU - that's £6.5 billion on an annual basis, for both alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, plus vinegar.

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTra...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9967131/Scotch-whisky-exports-rise-to-record-value.html

And I read that Scotch counts for approx 25% of drink exports.

The article you linked stated Scotch accounted for 25% of total food and drink (including non-alcoholic) exports in the bi-line and even using your 25% of alcohol sales still only gets you to the bottom of your range?

[don4l]

wc98 said:

i happened to come across an article i thought you may like don4l http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/brexit-divide...

Thank you.
"Friday's Glorious Victory!"

I like that.

[fatboy18]

don4l said:

wc98 said:

i happened to come across an article i thought you may like don4l http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/brexit-divide...

Thank you.
"Friday's Glorious Victory!"

I like that.

Well said

[don4l]

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

The chart is very misleading.

It is for "net" exports, which is meaningless. The "cars" section should be negative.

[youngsyr]

don4l said:

s2art said:

youngsyr said:

s2art said:

georgeq said:

yes that is a very good thing for those who are willing to trade the best part of our financial business for shorter passport queues.

Thats a little surprising. I thought we exported quite a lot of Whisky (and beer) but its shown as 0%.

Surprising?!

Have you even seen a photograph of central London/the Docklands recently?

Our financial sector is worth around £130bn a year to match that you'd have to sell several bottles to every man, woman and child on the planet, every year!

I didnt say match it, just thought it bigger than 0%. Further googling indicates somewhere between £16 and 20 billion of drink exports.

The chart is very misleading.

It is for "net" exports, which is meaningless. The "cars" section should be negative.

Net exports is "meaningless"?

Only if you don't give a monkey's about our balance of trade.

[barryrs]

turbobloke said:

Disastrous said:

Even the Brexit main man knows it was a st idea and has legged it, haha!

As it happens, there's no evidence for that.

Theresa May is my favorite as she has sent out a very clear message of her intentions if she becomes leader. Lets be honest Boris has managed to divide the country through the referendum and Gove as education secretary so a leader that hasn't divided the country before they even start must be a good thing.

[Sam All]

barryrs said:

Theresa May is my favorite as she has sent out a very clear message of her intentions if she becomes leader. Lets be honest Boris has managed to divide the country through the referendum and Gove as education secretary so a leader that hasn't divided the country before they even start must be a good thing.

Which part of the fence was she sitting on whilst this most important Referendum issue was going on?

[turbobloke]

barryrs said:

turbobloke said:

Disastrous said:

Even the Brexit main man knows it was a st idea and has legged it, haha!

As it happens, there's no evidence for that.

Theresa May is my favorite as she has sent out a very clear message of her intentions if she becomes leader. Lets be honest Boris has managed to divide the country through the referendum and Gove as education secretary so a leader that hasn't divided the country before they even start must be a good thing.

Maybe she'll win and do well, but I'm not convinced her shoulder pads are wide enough for the top job with 2020 in mind.

[barryrs]

Sam All said:

barryrs said:

Theresa May is my favorite as she has sent out a very clear message of her intentions if she becomes leader. Lets be honest Boris has managed to divide the country through the referendum and Gove as education secretary so a leader that hasn't divided the country before they even start must be a good thing.

Which part of the fence was she sitting on whilst this most important Referendum issue was going on?

I thought that she was for remain just not too vocal about it?

I dont think it matters now as we should have the best person for the job who will respect the referendum result and act in a way that best suits the UK.

[AJS-]

Leins said:

AJS- said:

More of a balls up by Cameron really. He had no plan B, and left the country entirely exposed to this uncertainty because he was so sure that his scare stories and condescending dismissal of the arguments put forward in favour of leaving would convince enough people to vote Remain.

In fact people voted Leave in spite of all this because the eu is undesirable in it's own right.

Cameron has been PM for 6 years and Cameron called the referendum with the backing of his party on both sides of the debate.

The blame for the current uncertainty lies squarely with Cameron for his absurd arrogance.

So man who tells people not to do something gets blamed when they don't listen?

Yes. Part of running a democratic government is realising that people don't always do what you want them to, and preparing for that. Cameron didn't.

Greg66

How do you work that out?
I'm not blaming Cameron for the state of the railways in 30 years time. After 6 years of his leadership we have a constitutional crisis which he has resigned over. Who else's fault could is possibly be?

Gareth
Agreed. The public voted based on what they heard in the campaign, the PM offered them this choice and if we're now suffering uncertainty and looking unprepared the blame lies squarely with Cameron.

[Welshbeef]

Easyjet commencing talks with EU to move its HQ out of UK to X EU country.

[Guvernator]

Err can I ask a stupid question, exactly why are all these firms wanting to leave? Exactly what is it about the Brexit result that has suddenly made having their headquarters here untenable?