Lots of angry people today.
Discussion
whoami said:
crankedup said:
This is PH, where the hell are the young entrepreneurs ? Would have thought a few people would represent a POV just how leaving may affect them and fledgling business?
They are all too busy on Facebook bleating and whining about how unfair it all is.Uncertainty creates opportunities for entrepreneurial companies, but it also increases risk.
I've already had a company pitching hard against competitors that are based in Gibraltar. This could create a contagion if it becomes more prevalent. (I don't think it will, but it is possible)
(I am not young by the way)
Isn't the point of all this though that if a 'hard right' government does start taking liberties that we as voters can kick them out of office! It's called democracy. I admit the alternative at this moment under Corbyn is a bit of a joke but things like this should empower labour and other parties to up their game.
)http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326
Seems Germany not towing the same line as France or the others...
Seems Germany not towing the same line as France or the others...
anonymous said:
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Whoaaa there Jeremy, it was all light hearted, hence the smilie, feelings are running hot it seems.James o Brian is a journalist and broadcaster who is very progressively liberal.
It was a bit of a joke.
I would say though that all this insult hurling from the losing side is sad.
Why is it ok for remainers to insult and cause offence to over half the electorate with impunity but if I said anything that insulted or caused offence to I don't know say a Muslim or LGBT or Gypsy then you would go all kinds of mental on me for the exact same behaviour you are displaying now but directed at someone else???
(To clarify before I get called names I have no intention of hurling insults at any group or person)
Mr GrimNasty said:
Voting for the EU is, sorry was, little more than submitting to dictatorship and volunteering your country's wealth to subsidize everyone else. It's insane.
Christopher Monckton of Brenchley says:-
“European Parliament” is no Parliament. It is a mere duma. It lacks even the power to bring forward a bill, and the 28 faceless, unelected, omnipotent Kommissars – the official German name for the shadowy Commissioners who exercise the supreme lawmaking power that was once vested in our elected Parliament – have the power, under the Treaty of Maastricht, to meet behind closed doors to override in secret any decision of that “Parliament” at will, and even to issue “Commission Regulations” that bypass it altogether.
Worse, the treaty that established the European Stability Pact gives its governing body of absolute bankers the power, at will and without consultation, to demand any sum of money, however large, from any member state, and every member of that governing body, personally as well as collectively, is held entirely immune not only from any civil suit but also from any criminal prosecution.
That is dictatorship in the formal sense. Good riddance to it.
No no no that has nothing to do with it we voted out because we hate transvestites do keep up.Christopher Monckton of Brenchley says:-
“European Parliament” is no Parliament. It is a mere duma. It lacks even the power to bring forward a bill, and the 28 faceless, unelected, omnipotent Kommissars – the official German name for the shadowy Commissioners who exercise the supreme lawmaking power that was once vested in our elected Parliament – have the power, under the Treaty of Maastricht, to meet behind closed doors to override in secret any decision of that “Parliament” at will, and even to issue “Commission Regulations” that bypass it altogether.
Worse, the treaty that established the European Stability Pact gives its governing body of absolute bankers the power, at will and without consultation, to demand any sum of money, however large, from any member state, and every member of that governing body, personally as well as collectively, is held entirely immune not only from any civil suit but also from any criminal prosecution.
That is dictatorship in the formal sense. Good riddance to it.
A few weeks ago on one of the referendum threads I asked the question: "which way do the "protesting classes" want this to go?" On the basis that I could vote the other way, as invariably I hold the opposite opinion to people that start smashing burger bar windows if they don't like the result of an election.
I didn't get an answer at the time, so I plumped for leave on my second indicator: "what do the luvvies want me to do?"
As there have apparently been anti result protests in London, it appears I chose correctly.
I didn't get an answer at the time, so I plumped for leave on my second indicator: "what do the luvvies want me to do?"
As there have apparently been anti result protests in London, it appears I chose correctly.
crankedup said:
This is PH, where the hell are the young entrepreneurs ? Would have thought a few people would represent a POV just how leaving may affect them and fledgling business?
I've just gone from behind a freelance to starting a business with 8 staff, i'm worried and the 'were british just get on with it' attitude doesnt really cut it for me,fizz47 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326
Seems Germany not towing the same line as France or the others...
Germans are far more pragmatic than the flouncy French.Seems Germany not towing the same line as France or the others...
bmw535i said:
Kermit power said:
I voted remain. I don't think you're xenophobic. I just think you've been hoodwinked by politicians who gave you something to blame for your concerns that they could act upon, rather than addressing far more fundamental problems which they won't, as it would see them out of power for generations.
Why, though, do you think leaving the EU is going to alter the number of non-EU refugees arriving here?
If I'm not mistaken, we were forced to accept Syrian refugees by pressure in part from the EU. Some of those already arrived have been arrested for committing crime here. Why, though, do you think leaving the EU is going to alter the number of non-EU refugees arriving here?
king up the Middle East over the last 70 years or so, I think it's bloody shameful that anyone had to put any pressure on for us to accept refugees, whether we're in the EU or not.chow pan toon said:
Kermit power said:
I voted remain. I don't think you're xenophobic. I just think you've been hoodwinked by politicians who gave you something to blame for your concerns that they could act upon, rather than addressing far more fundamental problems which they won't, as it would see them out of power for generations.
Why, though, do you think leaving the EU is going to alter the number of non-EU refugees arriving here?
The next battle will be just as bloody as the last...Why, though, do you think leaving the EU is going to alter the number of non-EU refugees arriving here?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/25/brexits...
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