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lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I'm not sure that image was rascist (but I'm not sure it wasn't intended to incite rascist reactions either). Misleading, ill advised and provocative most definitely.
The whole EU debate was about EU immigration yet we see a poster of refugees implying immigration.
Humanitarian aid and EU immigration were totally different matters yet Nigel used that image to deliberately cloud the issue.

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Notice the use of the word "would" in his reply, as opposed to "could" S&M minimiser tendencies ? Who knows?


Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Wanting to draw attention to or discuss unsustainable levels of immigration is not racist. That is your error. That is your interpretation. To others it is just a matter of fact. The hate is in your mind. The intolerance is yours.

However, the blackvote seesaw poster most definitely was hateful, or am I making the same error as you?

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Yes, we all do. We don't juspdge their colour for political capital. We don't judge their colour at all. That is your job. You see the irony of what you spout.

We see a representative picture of what is happening to these people due to piss poor organisation of a refugee crisis. Whilst many of these unfortunate people will be economic migrants taking advantage of a situation, there are some genuine cases in there. Merkel's open door policy has meant that many more unknowing souls would have lost their lives and others their life savings seeking the publicised pot of gold, whilst others are subject to this type of treatment.

You need to go to the countries and be in among the indigineuos people to understand it. To some, it is a major business opportunity to send their brothers to such a fate.

You know nothing. You talk st.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I find it hard to understand that as a seemingly well respected motoring journalist, with no other retarded posting history outside this thread, has lowered himself to this sustained campaign of just, well stuff.

Does anybody know what he's doing, other than continuing to fulfill the thread title? I would imagine this sort of thing could be quite damaging to someone who writes professionally.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Well take it from me, you are wrong.

Drawing colour prejudice into a far wider issue which can be clearly seen in that picture and masking the real problem is an error in your behalf. And in doing so, it stirs up all sorts of prejudices and arguments that only make things worse.

Take your fixation off colour and start to think about the real problem. And maybe think about your problem of blindly accusing people of racism while you are at it.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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I'm generalising a bit here, but most students aged 18-24 voted/would have voted in (as far as I know), whereas soldiers in the same age bracket with broadly similar intellect almost unanimously voted out.

I wonder if this is because soldiers are racist. Or is it because they are more patriotic, have seen a bit of the world and have a more mature outlook than a student.

I'd be interested to hear (sensible) suggestions.
Interesting assertion that Soliders 18-24 are of the same intellectual capacity as HE students ...

Given that the technical trades that recruit graduate calibre personnel at 18 are a small fraction ofthe intake of 18 year olds ( mainly those destined to be Artificers, some NCAir traffic controllers and NC aircrew, plus those wantignthe military to pay for Nurse -pre-reg training )

Other trades that recruit graduate calibre people tend to have an older intake ( again NCAircrew inc ISTAR, Intelligence corps etc, DE NC Nurses and ODPs .. )

Most of the 18 year olds joining the forces are joining the low entry standard trades precisely because military services is be best paying role they can get with their level 1 or level 2 qualifications...

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SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Yes, I am getting annoyed, but trust me, I am holding back the aggression on you as you are just not worth the effort you total bigot. I will get very annoyed at anyone who blindly calls someone else a racist when it is clearly not the case.

I have posted nothing unpleasant unless in response to your blind accusations of racism against me, and will continue to be very unpleasant to you unless you desist.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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So you have not called me a racist?

Kermit power

28,643 posts

213 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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bmw535i said:
I'm generalising a bit here, but most students aged 18-24 voted/would have voted in (as far as I know), whereas soldiers in the same age bracket with broadly similar intellect almost unanimously voted out.

I wonder if this is because soldiers are racist. Or is it because they are more patriotic, have seen a bit of the world and have a more mature outlook than a student.

I'd be interested to hear (sensible) suggestions.
Whilst I have a lot of respect for squaddies, I'm not sure you could say that they're on average of a similar intellect to the average student in tertiary education. Many of them view the forces as their best route out of crappy dead end jobs in crappy parts of the country, and good luck to them in that, but it's not the same demographic as the average student by any stretch of the imagination.

A more valid comparison would probably be how the voting amongst junior officers compared to that of tertiary students.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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SeeFive said:
So you have not called me a racist? Where did I express support for the poster?

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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SeeFive said:
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So you have not called me a racist?
You have not answered my question. Where did I express support for use of racist imagery anywhere? Nowhere, that is where, you are making it up you troll

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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mph1977 said:
interesting assertion that Soliders 18-24 are ofthe same intellectual capacity as HE students ...

given that the technical trades that recruit graduate calbire personnel at 18 are a small fraction ofthe intake of 18 year olds ( mainly those destined to be Artificers, some NCAir traffic controllers and NC aircrew, plus those wantignthe military to pay for Nurse -pre-reg training )

other trades that ecruit graduate calibre people tend to have an older intake ( again NCAircrew inc ISTAR, Intelligence corps etc, DE NC Nurses and ODPs .. )

most of the 18 year olds joining the forces are joining the low entry standard trades precisely because military services is be best payinf role they can get with their level 1 or level 2 qualifications...
It's strange that you can assert anything given you clearly can't have even a L1 in literacy. Sort yourself out, it's embarrassing.

By the way, those that I work with are in artificer trades. I don't know how long you've been a police officer, but I'd guess it's been a while.


SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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No, I have not. I told you what I saw in the picture. You told me what you saw and called me a racist because it did not match your view. That is bigotry.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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Kermit power said:
Whilst I have a lot of respect for squaddies, I'm not sure you could say that they're on average of a similar intellect to the average student in tertiary education. Many of them view the forces as their best route out of crappy dead end jobs in crappy parts of the country, and good luck to them in that, but it's not the same demographic as the average student by any stretch of the imagination.

A more valid comparison would probably be how the voting amongst junior officers compared to that of tertiary students.
Perhaps I should have been clearer. I mean the ones I manage, who are all artificer candidates in an aircraft environment. Most of them will go on to get a degree in aeronautical engineering.

Regarding your generalisation for other squaddies, I'd say I could quite happily challenge that, but that's for another thread.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Monday 27th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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Quote me where I said that the use of that image was legitimate or apologise.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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anonymous said:
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laugh ok

kurt535

3,559 posts

117 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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SeeFive said:
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Quote me where I said that the use of that image was legitimate or apologise.
cmoose has tucked you up nicely SeeFive. You really don't need a spade...

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Diversion, get the quote together bigot. I have never said it was legitimate, so I have nothing more to say on your diversion.

Definition of bigot - One who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life:

You cannot quote me. If you can, Just go for it to prove your blind accusations of me. I know you can't because I would never say that. You are a troll

SeeFive

8,280 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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kurt535 said:
cmoose has tucked you up nicely SeeFive. You really don't need a spade...
I am happy with that. He is the absolute worst type,of person to talk about implied racism or bigotry and he needs to be called out.
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