Lots of angry people today.
Discussion
blueg33 said:
chris watton said:
blueg33 said:
The majority of the people in the UK did not vote to leave, only the majority of people who actually voted.
Yeah, like my 20 year old step son who is now moaning (although I don't think he knows why..) about us 'old people being selfish', and, instead of coming to the polling station with us to vote stay, decided that the online game of COD was of much more vital importance, and stayed home.My 16 year old is pissed off
blueg33 said:
chris watton said:
blueg33 said:
The majority of the people in the UK did not vote to leave, only the majority of people who actually voted.
Yeah, like my 20 year old step son who is now moaning (although I don't think he knows why..) about us 'old people being selfish', and, instead of coming to the polling station with us to vote stay, decided that the online game of COD was of much more vital importance, and stayed home.My 16 year old is pissed off
jjlynn27 said:
el stovey said:
Supermajorities are not really a new concept, plenty of national referendums or votes within countries or within organisations require more than 50% to make major changes to the status quo.
Correct, usually 2/3rds for major change. el stovey said:
So if I presented you with two groups of people.
One group is more likely to be - Better educated (in all age groups), better paid, home owners, more likely to be employed,
Group b is more likely to be - Less educated, lower paid, home renters, more likely to be unemployed and on benefits.
Which group would you rather was responsible for making decisions on the future of your country?
Can we let group A make all the decisions about levels of taxation, social security and spending on public services too?One group is more likely to be - Better educated (in all age groups), better paid, home owners, more likely to be employed,
Group b is more likely to be - Less educated, lower paid, home renters, more likely to be unemployed and on benefits.
Which group would you rather was responsible for making decisions on the future of your country?
It would be great, though we'd better make sure that it's hard to get hold of guillotine building materials.
boxxob said:
I wonder if the picture you paint acknowledges everything which has been going on in the Eurozone for the last 4-5 years? I don't think the rest of Europe is sitting there thinking that everything is OK, in Eurozone land. Europe is more than the EU and its post-rejection, self-affirming spin; it is not some homogeneous block all looking at the UK and saying 'good riddance', not even amongst its national political leaders. If they (EU, whoever) want to "f... our economy" for years then that only demonstrates one thing to most people, especially leave voters. I don't see how it can happen - german industry would be screaming in under a month, and with something like the diesel scandal still unfolding, they don't want any more undue pressure.
We export roughly £1,600 per annum per capita to the EU. The EU exports roughly £600 per annum per capita to the UK.The first issue, therefore, is that even a relatively small tit for tat drop in trade hits us far worse than it does them.
The second issue is that you're assuming we'd make much of a dent in Germany's economy in the first place. If we do end up in dispute over trade, yes, that makes it harder for BMW, Mercedes, VAG & co to sell their cars here, but it also makes it far harder for JLR, Honda, Nissan & co to sell the cars they make here not only in Germany but also in every single one of the other 27 EU nations.
"Gosh, Mr Dutch Finance Director & Mr Polish CEO. You're worried about whether you're going to be able to buy that nice, shiny new Discovery? Let's introduce you to the X5 instead".
rb5er said:
walm said:
rb5er said:
Your "generally speaking" is b
ks.
ks. 
So only people that went to university and have a degree are intelligent and doing well in life?
Tell that to Richard Branson and Alan Sugar.
walm said:
It literally says that FOR WHATEVER REASON there was a slightly higher tendency to vote Remain if you have a degree.
jjlynn27 said:
bmw535i said:
Yes
Not necessarily- doubt it'll make it worse though
Not exclusively
A comment on second point; Theresa May looks to become new PM. Check her dealing with the police. It is widely accepted that, in short to medium term we are heading for economic downturn. If you think that this will not affect public services, I think that you are mistaken, it will be one of the first areas to be asked to do 'efficiency savings'.Not necessarily- doubt it'll make it worse though
Not exclusively
crankedup said:
The reason for this particular issue could be the sheep mentality of students, see them protesting on the streets, Baaaaa! Has the holding of a degree in nail tech' more interlock than a manual worker in a factory or a degree holder in any subject more intellect than an established successful business person?
Nobody is talking about students. It's about degree holders.This is hard work.
el stovey said:
So if I presented you with two groups of people.
One group is more likely to be - Better educated (in all age groups), better paid, home owners, more likely to be employed,
Group b is more likely to be - Less educated, lower paid, home renters, more likely to be unemployed and on benefits.
Which group would you rather was responsible for making decisions on the future of your country?
each have just as valid vote as each other. Simples.One group is more likely to be - Better educated (in all age groups), better paid, home owners, more likely to be employed,
Group b is more likely to be - Less educated, lower paid, home renters, more likely to be unemployed and on benefits.
Which group would you rather was responsible for making decisions on the future of your country?
or are you trying to say that one group should not have the vote? If you think that fine - but just say it, dont hide.
Off the wall back at you question:
Which of your groups above would you rather have in a war fighting for this country? What did Wellington say about his army?
Kermit power said:
We export roughly £1,600 per annum per capita to the EU. The EU exports roughly £600 per annum per capita to the UK.
The first issue, therefore, is that even a relatively small tit for tat drop in trade hits us far worse than it does them.
Well, that's another "Statistical BullsThe first issue, therefore, is that even a relatively small tit for tat drop in trade hits us far worse than it does them.
t" meter overloaded. 
crankedup said:
The reason for this particular issue could be the sheep mentality of students, see them protesting on the streets, Baaaaa! Has the holding of a degree in nail tech' more interlock than a manual worker in a factory or a degree holder in any subject more intellect than an established successful business person?
Degree holders dear boy. Some good comic stuff here and I hope they resist giving you your injection too early today, keep going it's priceless.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff