Lots of angry people today.

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Jockman

17,912 posts

159 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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don'tbesilly said:
Jockman said:
I have an MBA and my wife has O levels. She voted Remain. I voted Leave.
Yes, but we're discussing the referendum about leaving the UK, not you're pending divorce.

She didn't mention it? biggrin
Is that you, Karen? biggrin

blueg33

35,577 posts

223 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Rovinghawk said:
blueg33 said:
The majority of the people in the UK did not vote to leave, only the majority of people who actually voted.
Those who chose not to vote indicated that they would accept the view of the majority.
By definition, they didn't indicate anything and I doubt they would rationalise their decision they way you put it

walm

10,609 posts

201 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Jockman said:
Martin Luther King and the SCLC organised massive voter registration in the 1960s among poor black people, many of whom could neither read nor right.
MBA you say? wink

(Just kidding, spellcheckers should be able to deal with homophones these days, it's very annoying!)

don4l

10,058 posts

175 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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el stovey said:
Supermajorities are not really a new concept, plenty of national referendums or votes within countries or within organisations require more than 50% to make major changes to the status quo.
Status quo was not an option.

The options were:-
Ever closer union

or

Leave.


One could argue that Leave was the status quo option. When we do actually leave, further Directives will not apply to us.

Jockman

17,912 posts

159 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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walm said:
Jockman said:
Martin Luther King and the SCLC organised massive voter registration in the 1960s among poor black people, many of whom could neither read nor right.
MBA you say? wink

(Just kidding, spellcheckers should be able to deal with homophones these days, it's very annoying!)
rofl

You were quick !!

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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don4l said:
The options were:-
Ever closer union

or

Leave.
CMD had promised us a referendum if any further powers were to be transferred to Brussels.

Assuming the vote would be no (if vote for EU as-is was no) this would have caused the EU to bully us until we voted yes, as they did when certain states tried to vote no to Lisbon.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

136 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Axionknight said:
walm said:
rb5er said:
Your "generally speaking" is bks.
A bigger factor is age. Many people my age (28) went to Uni, fewer of my Dads age (58) went and even less of my Grandads age (84) went and older people were more inclined to vote leave as we all know. The education thing is just a big white elephant to make it look like people who voted leave were uneducated and foolish simply because they didn't have the opportunities to go to University in the same way younger generations did, which is by no means a bad thing of course.

Myth busted.
There's old people in London too.

blueg33

35,577 posts

223 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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crankedup said:
blueg33 said:
chris watton said:
blueg33 said:
The majority of the people in the UK did not vote to leave, only the majority of people who actually voted.
Yeah, like my 20 year old step son who is now moaning (although I don't think he knows why..) about us 'old people being selfish', and, instead of coming to the polling station with us to vote stay, decided that the online game of COD was of much more vital importance, and stayed home.
My 21 year old voted.

My 16 year old is pissed off
What is their trade/profession or intent? (Passing interest)
21 year old is at Uni doing a Masters in Acoustic Engineering he is concerned that the UK Gov't are terrible at funding scientific research, typically the EU puts much more towards that than the UK. The EU funds lots of UK based research.
16 year old is at school, and wants to be a vet but is mainly focussed on being difficult to live with.....



jjlynn27

7,935 posts

108 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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chris watton said:
Yeah, like my 20 year old step son who is now moaning (although I don't think he knows why..) about us 'old people being selfish', and, instead of coming to the polling station with us to vote stay, decided that the online game of COD was of much more vital importance, and stayed home.
Not having at dig at you personally at all, but as someone who believes in nurture over nature I have to ask; do you believe that parents have any responsibility for situations like this?

superlightr

12,842 posts

262 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
chris watton said:
Yeah, like my 20 year old step son who is now moaning (although I don't think he knows why..) about us 'old people being selfish', and, instead of coming to the polling station with us to vote stay, decided that the online game of COD was of much more vital importance, and stayed home.
Not having at dig at you personally at all, but as someone who believes in nurture over nature I have to ask; do you believe that parents have any responsibility for situations like this?
I would agree. I blame the parents - That's appalling. What a waste of time. He should have been improving his wn8 at world of tanks....

crankedup

25,764 posts

242 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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rb5er said:
walm said:
rb5er said:
Your "generally speaking" is bks.
rofl
So only people that went to university and have a degree are intelligent and doing well in life?

Tell that to Richard Branson and Alan Sugar.
I have been alluding to this for some while, thing is these guys started business on the old traditional way. These people did not require bits of paper from studies to prove their worth and potential, they and thousands of people like them have done OK. Different environment now? Of course the business world is forever changing isn't it!

crankedup

25,764 posts

242 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
crankedup said:
The reason for this particular issue could be the sheep mentality of students, see them protesting on the streets, Baaaaa! Has the holding of a degree in nail tech' more interlock than a manual worker in a factory or a degree holder in any subject more intellect than an established successful business person?
Nobody is talking about students. It's about degree holders.

This is hard work.
Are you suggesting that most people with degrees are not or were not students. Jeez this is hard work.

230TE

2,506 posts

185 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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As a degree-educated car mechanic, can someone please tell me whether I should be angry or not, and if so, with whom? I wouldn't want to get this wrong.

crankedup

25,764 posts

242 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Blue62 said:
crankedup said:
The reason for this particular issue could be the sheep mentality of students, see them protesting on the streets, Baaaaa! Has the holding of a degree in nail tech' more interlock than a manual worker in a factory or a degree holder in any subject more intellect than an established successful business person?
Degree holders dear boy. Some good comic stuff here and I hope they resist giving you your injection too early today, keep going it's priceless.
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Limited in world experience, and therein lies the problem with students that have a handful, or just the one, degree.
Would you mind dropping the childish remarks, it's neither clever nor funny, even if you think you are both.

Digga

40,206 posts

282 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Would love to see the splits in terms of what degrees were actually held. I can guess. hehe

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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Digga said:
Would love to see the splits in terms of what degrees were actually held. I can guess. hehe
You're not telling me that people with media studies, dance or art degrees should be calling the shots now, are you?

walm

10,609 posts

201 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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crankedup said:
Limited in world experience, and therein lies the problem with students that have a handful, or just the one, degree.
If the chart I posted had anything to do with students then you might have a point.
As it is, for the vast majority of students, they would be WITHOUT A DEGREE.

This isn't rocket science, nor even media studies. It's just reading comprehension.

crankedup

25,764 posts

242 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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blueg33 said:
crankedup said:
blueg33 said:
chris watton said:
blueg33 said:
The majority of the people in the UK did not vote to leave, only the majority of people who actually voted.
Yeah, like my 20 year old step son who is now moaning (although I don't think he knows why..) about us 'old people being selfish', and, instead of coming to the polling station with us to vote stay, decided that the online game of COD was of much more vital importance, and stayed home.
My 21 year old voted.

My 16 year old is pissed off
What is their trade/profession or intent? (Passing interest)
21 year old is at Uni doing a Masters in Acoustic Engineering he is concerned that the UK Gov't are terrible at funding scientific research, typically the EU puts much more towards that than the UK. The EU funds lots of UK based research.
16 year old is at school, and wants to be a vet but is mainly focussed on being difficult to live with.....
Interesting, Cambridge being just down the road we read and hear about who is doing what in the scientific world, not that I am in anyway involved. I did listen to the commentary regarding the very real concerns regarding funding,post Brexit, and of course the fact that much funding comes from the EU.
Given the Global importance of the research of the various disciplines I would I,aging funding will be maintained through our own Government. Surely any Government will see this as a National priority.
Anyway, the very best of luck to your family in their studies and work.

crankedup

25,764 posts

242 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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walm said:
crankedup said:
Limited in world experience, and therein lies the problem with students that have a handful, or just the one, degree.
If the chart I posted had anything to do with students then you might have a point.
As it is, for the vast majority of students, they would be WITHOUT A DEGREE.

This isn't rocket science, nor even media studies. It's just reading comprehension.
Must admit I didn't. take too much interest in the graph just felt the need to say what I wanted to say. Out of context to your graph, apologies.

walm

10,609 posts

201 months

Monday 4th July 2016
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crankedup said:
Must admit I didn't. take too much interest in the graph just felt the need to say what I wanted to say. Out of context to your graph, apologies.
Ah! Fair enough! thumbup
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