Independence for London
Discussion
TwigtheWonderkid said:
If Scotland gets another referendum because they don't want to be dragged out of the EU against their will, why can't we have the same in London.
We've voted overwhelmingly in favour of staying in. I'm pretty sure we could go it alone. I suspect the wealth generated in London subsidises most of the rest of the country anyway. I feel I have more in common with Parisians, Berliners etc than I do with the good folk of Burnley.
So what about it Londoners? Let's get out and leave the rest of the UK to it.
We've voted overwhelmingly in favour of staying in. I'm pretty sure we could go it alone. I suspect the wealth generated in London subsidises most of the rest of the country anyway. I feel I have more in common with Parisians, Berliners etc than I do with the good folk of Burnley.
So what about it Londoners? Let's get out and leave the rest of the UK to it.
If London went independent then surely then that would be London as the capital of erm... well... London...
So the rest of the country would then set up a new capital with its own financial district...cutting off ties with the new Independent state of the inner M25 ...I wonder how long the Independent London would last after that... what exactly would the have to trade in except stocks shares and currency..... playing the markets isnt always their stong point as very recent history has shown..?
Or as I said in another post.. I wonder how long it is until the inner M25 Elite start planning the first Hunger Games for the rest of us?
So the rest of the country would then set up a new capital with its own financial district...cutting off ties with the new Independent state of the inner M25 ...I wonder how long the Independent London would last after that... what exactly would the have to trade in except stocks shares and currency..... playing the markets isnt always their stong point as very recent history has shown..?
Or as I said in another post.. I wonder how long it is until the inner M25 Elite start planning the first Hunger Games for the rest of us?
sampsan said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
If Scotland gets another referendum because they don't want to be dragged out of the EU against their will, why can't we have the same in London.
We've voted overwhelmingly in favour of staying in. I'm pretty sure we could go it alone. I suspect the wealth generated in London subsidises most of the rest of the country anyway. I feel I have more in common with Parisians, Berliners etc than I do with the good folk of Burnley.
So what about it Londoners? Let's get out and leave the rest of the UK to it.
We've voted overwhelmingly in favour of staying in. I'm pretty sure we could go it alone. I suspect the wealth generated in London subsidises most of the rest of the country anyway. I feel I have more in common with Parisians, Berliners etc than I do with the good folk of Burnley.
So what about it Londoners? Let's get out and leave the rest of the UK to it.
Burwood said:
Hey Twig, serious question. Is this a serious thing for you or are you just yanking the thread chain as you do.
It started as satire, but some of the vitriol has been very revealing. Amazing how people are happy to dump the EU, but when they think someone wants to dump them, they really can't hack it. 
Johnnytheboy said:
If it's that great, why aren't all the traffic jams on a Friday inbound?
Good public transpirt links into the city?I can fly there from Aberdeen in about 60-70 minutes and it costs me a hundred quid return to the City Airport, it's probably easier for me to get there than it is for half the folk who live in Surrey and work there
Axionknight said:
MEPs have been told there will be no partial withdrawals apparently, the announcement was brought about by Nicola Sturgeons postering.
The thread was always fantasy fiction in any case but it's good to see it dead in the water. Scotland's First Minister has been slapped down and humiliated, London's Mayor next though the EU may not regard the idea as worthy of a response as it's already been covered from the same bucket of manure as Sturgeon's non-idea."EU slaps down Sturgeon"
"Brussels has dashed the First Minister’s hopes by confirming that even if Scotland voted for independence, it would have to reapply for EU membership...That could take years..."
And even then they'll probably say non. Good luck Nicola.
"The issue of a ‘partial withdrawal’ was ruled out in a briefing note sent to MEPs by the European Parliament Research Service."
The document confirms that part of a member state cannot remain in the EU if the member state itself withdraws.
With Sturgeon and the London Mayor put back in their box it's /thread. Not that the whiners will see it that way
Budflicker said:
The issue with a Independent London is that most of the people who work there don't live there as it's too expensive.
The amount of people in social housing and benefits in London is huge,and at the other end of the spectrum is HUGE wealth, but all the jobs carried out by workers are done in the most part by people who live outside London. Just look at the people travelling in on the morning rush hour.
If London became independent whose going to do the work??? or are you going to issue visas?
On the subject of London, lets solve some housing issues, no social housing in London at all, if you want a free house or flat you don't get it in one of the most expensive cities in the world when there are plenty of empty house up north. (if your unemployed what does it matter where the free house is?)
Then all those house's could be lived in by people who work in London at sensible rents, also solving huge traffic and transport issues.
There is another issue also in that currently there are 3 million or so ( I think) EU nationals / migrants working throughout the UK, and this seems to be an issue for some people. Not for me, but if those 3 million migrants all then moved to independent London that would be an issue. Housing and costs associated is also a big issue in London.The amount of people in social housing and benefits in London is huge,and at the other end of the spectrum is HUGE wealth, but all the jobs carried out by workers are done in the most part by people who live outside London. Just look at the people travelling in on the morning rush hour.
If London became independent whose going to do the work??? or are you going to issue visas?
On the subject of London, lets solve some housing issues, no social housing in London at all, if you want a free house or flat you don't get it in one of the most expensive cities in the world when there are plenty of empty house up north. (if your unemployed what does it matter where the free house is?)
Then all those house's could be lived in by people who work in London at sensible rents, also solving huge traffic and transport issues.
It's not a serious idea as the original poster said though, more a PH "what if" thinktank exercise.
We should nuke the b
ds and turn it all to glass though if it happened ... 
( only joking, in Kent we might be down wind and my petunias might mutate ! )
otolith said:
mattmurdock said:
I'm loving how democracy is just fine when we want to 'divorce' from the EU, but democracy is not fine if Scotland, London or anywhere else in the UK wants to 'divorce' from the UK. In those cases, apparently it is just fine to send in the tanks and take them by force.
Some people are getting quite testy, it's not the British way!
Digga said:
MarshPhantom said:
I do wish people would say where they live if they think London is a sthole.
Not up each other's arses like Russian dolls perhaps?thole.Oh, and as you ask, Staffordshire, you know, pottery, oatcakes, bull terriers and Peaky Blinders.
Axionknight said:
Johnnytheboy said:
If it's that great, why aren't all the traffic jams on a Friday inbound?
Good public transpirt links into the city?I can fly there from Aberdeen in about 60-70 minutes and it costs me a hundred quid return to the City Airport, it's probably easier for me to get there than it is for half the folk who live in Surrey and work there
vonuber said:
The funny thing about this is that London wil be fine and continue to be the economic powerhouse of the country.
The regions will suffer even more due tonremoval of EU funding which wont be replaced.
Fine, except that it's basically nonsense and not going to happen. Apart from that, carry on!The regions will suffer even more due tonremoval of EU funding which wont be replaced.
The EU memo to MEPs has said that no part of a country exiting can remain in the EU.
Scotland out, London out, waste of time, etc.
turbobloke said:
vonuber said:
The funny thing about this is that London wil be fine and continue to be the economic powerhouse of the country.
The regions will suffer even more due tonremoval of EU funding which wont be replaced.
Fine, except that it's basically nonsense and not going to happen. Apart from that, carry on!The regions will suffer even more due tonremoval of EU funding which wont be replaced.
The EU memo to MEPs has said that no part of a country exiting can remain in the EU.
Scotland out, London out, waste of time, etc.
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