2nd Referendum please - I don't like how that one panned out

[adam quantrill]

el stovey said:

don'tbesilly said:

el stovey said:

3 million now.

I'm sure come Tuesday morning there will be more votes for a second referendum than the population of the UK.

I wonder what will happen, will it get closed or will it just reach some impossibly large number.

If it reaches 17,410,743 then there might be some reaction from the government. There's a long way to go before that.

[Jonesy23]

All that jazz said:

Story forwarded to The Register. See if they pick it up.

Since the staff changes The Register is like an offshoot of The Guardian.

Certainly the comments section has steered that way especially the up and down votes.

[All that jazz]

Jonesy23 said:

Since the staff changes The Register is like an offshoot of The Guardian.

Certainly the comments section has steered that way especially the up and down votes.

OK! Forwarded to engadget as well.

[AreOut]

No government would allow an online petition to overthrow a democratic election result. Dangerous precedent.

[CaptainSlow]

AreOut said:

No government would allow an online petition to overthrow a democratic election result. Dangerous precedent.

Quite, you know there may be a risk that all the signatures aren't genuine

[AreOut]

especially those 30 odd thousand from Vatican

[RizzoTheRat]

adam quantrill said:

el stovey said:

don'tbesilly said:

el stovey said:

3 million now.

I'm sure come Tuesday morning there will be more votes for a second referendum than the population of the UK.

I wonder what will happen, will it get closed or will it just reach some impossibly large number.

If it reaches 17,410,743 then there might be some reaction from the government. There's a long way to go before that.

The biggest problem is still going to be building the time machine, as this petition seems to be calling for there to be a rule built in to the referendum that if the results/turnout are within a certain range there should be another referendum. Quite a sensible idea really to ensure debate occurs until one side has a decent majority, however as the referendum has already happened it's a bit late.

[AreOut]

1.3m is quite a margin I'd say

[anonymous-user]

CaptainSlow said:

AreOut said:

No government would allow an online petition to overthrow a democratic election result. Dangerous precedent.

Quite, you know there may be a risk that all the signatures aren't genuine

Not that the petition means much but on the clickable map you can click on the constituencies many have 5000 or more votes times 650 = 3.2 million. It's obv very rough but it's not all spam from Nigeria

[SpeckledJim]

el stovey said:

CaptainSlow said:

AreOut said:

No government would allow an online petition to overthrow a democratic election result. Dangerous precedent.

Quite, you know there may be a risk that all the signatures aren't genuine

Not that the petition means much but on the clickable map you can click on the constituencies many have 5000 or more votes times 650 = 3.2 million. It's obv very rough but it's not all spam from Nigeria

We know that some people disagree. At least 16m disagree, that is how they voted.

Reassuring us that a large proportion of 3m is not spam from Nigeria is hardly much of an argument for a re-run.

[All that jazz]

el stovey said:

CaptainSlow said:

AreOut said:

No government would allow an online petition to overthrow a democratic election result. Dangerous precedent.

Quite, you know there may be a risk that all the signatures aren't genuine

Not that the petition means much but on the clickable map you can click on the constituencies many have 5000 or more votes times 650 = 3.2 million. It's obv very rough but it's not all spam from Nigeria

The actual UK signatures from the JSON data show as 365,000 or thereabouts.

[CaptainSlow]

All that jazz said:

el stovey said:

CaptainSlow said:

AreOut said:

No government would allow an online petition to overthrow a democratic election result. Dangerous precedent.

Quite, you know there may be a risk that all the signatures aren't genuine

Not that the petition means much but on the clickable map you can click on the constituencies many have 5000 or more votes times 650 = 3.2 million. It's obv very rough but it's not all spam from Nigeria

The actual UK signatures from the JSON data show as 365,000 or thereabouts.

I hadn't realised so many of the Disney characters were so politically active.

[Randy Winkman]

Einion Yrth said:

Randy Winkman said:

Even as a "remainer" I don't think we should have a re-run. We should accept what people asked for.

But as an ex-psychology student I would be interested to hear some expert views on having a referendum that was basically "would you like to change?" versus "would you like things to stay the same?" since I'd say that there was a greater motivation for those that want the former to go and vote. Some would say it serves remainers right for not voting. That's fine. But the point I'm making is that if we had a vote now that said "Would you like to keep the result?" or "would you like to change the result?" the latter might win.

By this premise the procedure would be endless, because you'd end up with endless referenda failing to ratify the last one. Daft.

I'm not suggesting it actually happen. I'm just pointing out that there's a difference between the 2 things. The motivation to vote to change is clearly bigger than to keep it the same. i.e you take a positive action (vote) to change something.

[Axionknight]

The petition online is great

"name":"North Korea","code":"KP","signature_count":24855



https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.js...

[Ed.]

The rules were made clear a month ago:

https://mobile.twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/73...

Sorry if this is a repost.

[ThunderGuts]

Axionknight said:

The petition online is great

"name":"North Korea","code":"KP","signature_count":24855



https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.js...

41k votes from the Vatican!!

[Axionknight]

Can anybody with a good understanding of these things explain how that is possible, please? Regional servers or something, so the voting location isn't that accurate?

[AreOut]

Axionknight said:

Can anybody with a good understanding of these things explain how that is possible, please? Regional servers or something, so the voting location isn't that accurate?

just a lot of bored people around the world

[kenny.R400]

Why aren't the news streams picking up on this scam then? They are preening themselves on some more pinko forums about the 3 million + hits.

It'd piss on their intellectual chips to find out a knob sized chunk of the votes are from the Vatican City and Korea.

[Einion Yrth]

kenny.R400 said:

Why aren't the news streams picking up on this scam then?

Doesn't suit their agenda, does it?