2nd Referendum please - I don't like how that one panned out

2nd Referendum please - I don't like how that one panned out

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kenny.R400

1,212 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Fancy a beer later? smilethumbuplaugh

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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beerdrink

kenny.R400

1,212 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Check out the "petition", someone is at work here at last. It jumps by a few then sheds loads of votes on every refreshlaughbiggrin

Langweilig

4,326 posts

211 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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The protagonist is Labour MP David Lammy (The People's Republic of Haringey). He is presently receiving unfavourable comments on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/David-Lammy-19129786540/

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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silent ninja said:
It's still democracy because we elect parliament/MPs to make these decisions on our behalf. Parliament could by all means have a re-vote. The referendum result is not legally binding and thus it is advisory. Everybody knows this. It wouldn't be right to ignore the people's vote, but at the same time half the population don't agree and want to remain. I think a General Election will be the way to go
Convenient, since the main parties will.all campaign for in.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
Convenient, since the main parties will.all campaign for in.
Didn't exactly work out for them last week, did it?

kenny.R400

1,212 posts

240 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Hmmm, seems to be just climbing again now.

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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apparently someone edited the json file on the government site...

http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://petition.parl...

http://web.archive.org/web/20160625153506/https://...

http://web.archive.org/web/20160625220110/https://...

first and second: the UK signature updates like normal from 354,634 to 365,483 in 5 hours second and third: in less than 2 hours and the number exploded from 365,483 to 2,401,768 from the UK

if they continue with these shenanigans it will drive people even more mad, someone really should come out and stop this idiocy

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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desolate said:
CrutyRammers said:
Convenient, since the main parties will.all campaign for in.
Didn't exactly work out for them last week, did it?
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gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Lord Heseltine has joined the ranks of those who want to ignore the referendum. He's called on MP's to find a way to get us out of Brexit.

stemll

4,095 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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trooperiziz said:
RizzoTheRat said:
The biggest problem is still going to be building the time machine, as this petition seems to be calling for there to be a rule built in to the referendum that if the results/turnout are within a certain range there should be another referendum. Quite a sensible idea really to ensure debate occurs until one side has a decent majority, however as the referendum has already happened it's a bit late.
The petition was created before the vote, but it only became popular after the vote.
It had 22 votes before the result was announced.

This isn't a comment on the validity of the signatures or the petition etc...
The creator of the petition has said that he created it expecting Remain to win and so force another referendum to get a Leave. not going quite as he expected I guess.

https://www.facebook.com/Oliver.Healey.English.Dem...

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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who cares, the petition got 22 votes before referendum

boyse7en

6,720 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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stemll said:
trooperiziz said:
RizzoTheRat said:
The biggest problem is still going to be building the time machine, as this petition seems to be calling for there to be a rule built in to the referendum that if the results/turnout are within a certain range there should be another referendum. Quite a sensible idea really to ensure debate occurs until one side has a decent majority, however as the referendum has already happened it's a bit late.
The petition was created before the vote, but it only became popular after the vote.
It had 22 votes before the result was announced.

This isn't a comment on the validity of the signatures or the petition etc...
The creator of the petition has said that he created it expecting Remain to win and so force another referendum to get a Leave. not going quite as he expected I guess.

https://www.facebook.com/Oliver.Healey.English.Dem...
at least that means he must have created it before the referendum took place. Not really his fault that some people are trying to get the result changed after it has already happened.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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gadgetmac said:
Lord Heseltine has joined the ranks of those who want to ignore the referendum. He's called on MP's to find a way to get us out of Brexit.
Yep. I'm convinced it is going to happen now. Boris is probably going to have to conspire to LOSE the leadership contest so that another Tory, possibly May, can get elected on a mandate for staying in.

cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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its the job no one wants.

you will either be a hero = get a better deal that Norway has.

Or get lynched = end up with a much worse deal than Norway.


I don't think we will get a good deal, they (the EU) will want to punish as a example to others. so it will be the Norway deal or a poor deal.

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
Yep. I'm convinced it is going to happen now. .
Are you being serious, or just amusing the rest of us ?

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Robertj21a said:
Are you being serious, or just amusing the rest of us ?
I'm serious...... I believe there is no bar below which our current politicians will crawl in order to get their own way. They will delay article 50 as long as possible and somehow find a way to ask the public again....... hey presto problem solved. I can just see Theresa May or Nicky Morgan lubing up the UK public ready for the re-entry negotiations now.


turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
Robertj21a said:
Are you being serious, or just amusing the rest of us ?
I'm serious...... I believe there is no bar below which our current politicians will crawl in order to get their own way. They will delay article 50 as long as possible and somehow find a way to ask the public again....... hey presto problem solved. I can just see Theresa May or Nicky Morgan lubing up the UK public ready for the re-entry negotiations now.
Like you, ordinarily I wouldn't put anything past politicians, but that would be extraordinary.

Circumventing the will of the majority of people who voted in a high-turnout referendum using chicanery is so serious only the likes of the SNP Leader and a daft Labour MP would seriously consider doing it. There may be more sore loser politicians who think they know what the people want better than the people do (wrong) who will speak of it, but I'm referring to doing it.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Ireland did it. The Netherlands have just done it. Greece did it. It's not exactly unusual in matters eu for a public vote to be overridden.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
Ireland did it. The Netherlands have just done it. Greece did it. It's not exactly unusual in matters eu for a public vote to be overridden.
No chance Westminster will try to over turn the will of 17,000,000 people.