2nd Referendum please - I don't like how that one panned out
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Tannedbaldhead said:
The great unwashed are easily swayed. One minute the are Leave coz they are thick enough to feel that not hearing English voices on a bus is important the next they are Remain coz voting leave will cost them their "monster truck". ...
Tannedbaldhead said:
Me. I was pretty soft Remain seesawing to Leave when I saw how badly run the EU is. One day after the Referendum I am certain I am £4k out of pocket in bonuses earned from my employer after gaining Inner city regeneration contracts. I face redundancy within the next year to year and a half. My industry is f
ked and my prospect of gaining a similar job on a similar salary is fked with it. I am now rabid remain. My dad chose an income drawdown from an investment fund as annuities were such poor value at the time of his retirement. He lost the best part of six months pension payments in a day. He was more sympathetic to Brexit (as old farts are) but voted Remain as he knew where his bread was buttered. He is equally shifted in his position on the spectrum.
like I said before a very small proportion of leave voters need to be hurt or frightened to change side for the result to be overturned. If a second referendum can be engineered it will. If the vote is more Remain friendly then it will be the democratic will of the people at the time and at a time when the people are more aware of the consequences of their choice.
ked and my prospect of gaining a similar job on a similar salary is fked with it. I am now rabid remain. My dad chose an income drawdown from an investment fund as annuities were such poor value at the time of his retirement. He lost the best part of six months pension payments in a day. He was more sympathetic to Brexit (as old farts are) but voted Remain as he knew where his bread was buttered. He is equally shifted in his position on the spectrum. like I said before a very small proportion of leave voters need to be hurt or frightened to change side for the result to be overturned. If a second referendum can be engineered it will. If the vote is more Remain friendly then it will be the democratic will of the people at the time and at a time when the people are more aware of the consequences of their choice.
Out of interest
- your employer cancelled a bonus because of the vote result?
- what was your dad's fund invested in for him to lose so much in one day?
Murph7355 said:
Out of interest
- your employer cancelled a bonus because of the vote result?
Murph7355 said:
- what was your dad's fund invested in for him to lose so much in one day?
Sounds like someone didn't have a clue what he was investing in! Not sure that's the fault of Brexit...Murph7355 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
The great unwashed are easily swayed. One minute the are Leave coz they are thick enough to feel that not hearing English voices on a bus is important the next they are Remain coz voting leave will cost them their "monster truck". ...
Tannedbaldhead said:
Me. I was pretty soft Remain seesawing to Leave when I saw how badly run the EU is. One day after the Referendum I am certain I am £4k out of pocket in bonuses earned from my employer after gaining Inner city regeneration contracts. I face redundancy within the next year to year and a half. My industry is fked and my prospect of gaining a similar job on a similar salary is fked with it. I am now rabid remain. My dad chose an income drawdown from an investment fund as annuities were such poor value at the time of his retirement. He lost the best part of six months pension payments in a day. He was more sympathetic to Brexit (as old farts are) but voted Remain as he knew where his bread was buttered. He is equally shifted in his position on the spectrum.
like I said before a very small proportion of leave voters need to be hurt or frightened to change side for the result to be overturned. If a second referendum can be engineered it will. If the vote is more Remain friendly then it will be the democratic will of the people at the time and at a time when the people are more aware of the consequences of their choice.
ked and my prospect of gaining a similar job on a similar salary is fked with it. I am now rabid remain. My dad chose an income drawdown from an investment fund as annuities were such poor value at the time of his retirement. He lost the best part of six months pension payments in a day. He was more sympathetic to Brexit (as old farts are) but voted Remain as he knew where his bread was buttered. He is equally shifted in his position on the spectrum. like I said before a very small proportion of leave voters need to be hurt or frightened to change side for the result to be overturned. If a second referendum can be engineered it will. If the vote is more Remain friendly then it will be the democratic will of the people at the time and at a time when the people are more aware of the consequences of their choice.
Out of interest
- your employer cancelled a bonus because of the vote result?
- what was your dad's fund invested in for him to lose so much in one day?
mondeoman said:
dandarez said:
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/the-howl-agai...
Ignore the rag and writer. Do you agree?
I do.
Every word.
Sums it up perfectly.
yep.Ignore the rag and writer. Do you agree?
I do.
Every word.
Sums it up perfectly.
stemll said:
mondeoman said:
dandarez said:
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/the-howl-agai...
Ignore the rag and writer. Do you agree?
I do.
Every word.
Sums it up perfectly.
yep.Ignore the rag and writer. Do you agree?
I do.
Every word.
Sums it up perfectly.
I didn't vote last time, but if there is a second referendum i'll be voting out. I don't want all these spoilt, tantruming cry babies ruining a proper democracy and dictating the direction this country is heading. Things change, usually for the better if you have half a brain and know how to capitalise from it. Its not the end of the world.
Some people might lose their Nissan Navara's, but its a sacrifice they will have to make.
Some people might lose their Nissan Navara's, but its a sacrifice they will have to make.
WonkeyDonkey said:
I didn't vote last time, but if there is a second referendum i'll be voting out. I don't want all these spoilt, tantruming cry babies ruining a proper democracy and dictating the direction this country is heading. Things change, usually for the better if you have half a brain and know how to capitalise from it. Its not the end of the world.
Some people might lose their Nissan Navara's, but its a sacrifice they will have to make.
Wonkey, people like you scare me....Some people might lose their Nissan Navara's, but its a sacrifice they will have to make.
WonkeyDonkey said:
I didn't vote last time, but if there is a second referendum i'll be voting out. I don't want all these spoilt, tantruming cry babies ruining a proper democracy and dictating the direction this country is heading. Things change, usually for the better if you have half a brain and know how to capitalise from it. Its not the end of the world.
Some people might lose their Nissan Navara's, but its a sacrifice they will have to make.
What sacrifices are you personally willing to make for the Brexit cause? Your current job, your pension?Some people might lose their Nissan Navara's, but its a sacrifice they will have to make.
. And it's not that I think I'm better, maybe slightly less stupid in certain areas, I mean I'm certainly no Einstein or anything but I managed to make it through Friday without looking like a dimwit on the local news. eharding said:
What sacrifices are you personally willing to make for the Brexit cause? Your current job, your pension?
I know someone who's looking likely to lose about £4m-6m off the value of their business once we leave the EU....He voted out, knowingly (had an impact assessment done). Why? Because democracy is more important.
People should now be realising that those supporting remain (and the EU) are so indoctrinated that they do not believe in democracy, which is exactly the reason many people wanted to leave. They are in fact, dangerous minded people.
eharding said:
What sacrifices are you personally willing to make for the Brexit cause? Your current job, your pension?
There's a chance of me losing my job, but then again there would have been a similar chance in the long term of losing my job if we stayed. My pension is something of little importance at the moment due to my age, as there isn't a great deal in there to lose if it does go tits up!
gumshoe said:
eharding said:
What sacrifices are you personally willing to make for the Brexit cause? Your current job, your pension?
I know someone who's looking likely to lose about £4m-6m off the value of their business once we leave the EU....He voted out, knowingly (had an impact assessment done). Why? Because democracy is more important.
People should now be realising that those supporting remain (and the EU) are so indoctrinated that they do not believe in democracy, which is exactly the reason many people wanted to leave. They are in fact, dangerous minded people.
Guybrush said:
gumshoe said:
eharding said:
What sacrifices are you personally willing to make for the Brexit cause? Your current job, your pension?
I know someone who's looking likely to lose about £4m-6m off the value of their business once we leave the EU....He voted out, knowingly (had an impact assessment done). Why? Because democracy is more important.
People should now be realising that those supporting remain (and the EU) are so indoctrinated that they do not believe in democracy, which is exactly the reason many people wanted to leave. They are in fact, dangerous minded people.
People are seeking to overturn a clear democractic result basically because, despite wrapping the excuses up in fancy paper, they disagree with it. Whoever it is, frankly, shame on them.
We only get this particular type of public whining when the illiberal branch of the left-liberals, who love democracy when it agrees with their view, get a reminder that they are the ones out of step with the majority of those voting, whether it's the 2010 and 2015 general elections or the recent referendum.
I cannot recall a single instance of this type of OTT reaction by the losing side on PH when Labour won in 2005 on PH or anywhere else.
When the opposite happens the excuses are trotted out around the people not listening, not knowing enough, can we do it all again, all of this is basically a further insult to the electorate. At least these undemocratic types are consistent.
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