2nd Referendum please - I don't like how that one panned out
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I don't believe there will be a second referendum unless they are absolutely certain that remain can win by a landslide, I'm talking 70%+ showing in polling data.
The petitions that will hit parliament after this vote combined with the so called "Bregret" vote could be used as a justification for a second vote... especially if the exit agreement is very harsh or if the government can wangle some kind of free movement cap to toss to the UKIP brigade.
The petitions that will hit parliament after this vote combined with the so called "Bregret" vote could be used as a justification for a second vote... especially if the exit agreement is very harsh or if the government can wangle some kind of free movement cap to toss to the UKIP brigade.
Edited by VolvoT5 on Saturday 25th June 14:12
Jinx said:
JawKnee said:
Farage (and many on here I should add) said he'd push for a second referendum if leave lost by a narrow margin. Why can't the same apply the other way around. Hypocritical much?
And how far do you think he would have got?JawKnee said:
Farage (and many on here I should add) said he'd push for a second referendum if leave lost by a narrow margin. Why can't the same apply the other way around. Hypocritical much?
Well Farage is a prick........so the other way around can apply........if you want to be like old Nigel.The problem with this vote, as any, is interpretation.
The majority of people in this country have not voted to leave the EU, just as the majority have not voted to stay either.
In a general election the vast majority of the population don't vote for the winning government.
I voted remain, and can't quite get my head around the fact the people voted to leave. It seems we inhabit different versions of Britain.
My hope now is of a fudge that keeps us in the common market, with free movement of people. Then in a few years we can rejoin the EU and eventually the Euro. We can then play our full part in Europe, which is what we should have been doing from the start.
What would also be interesting to know is what the leavers have actually voted for? I know those that have voted for us to leave the EU in its entirety, and I know those that voted to leave the EU but stay in the single market. So the leave vote it's self is split over what level of leave people have voted for.
The majority of people in this country have not voted to leave the EU, just as the majority have not voted to stay either.
In a general election the vast majority of the population don't vote for the winning government.
I voted remain, and can't quite get my head around the fact the people voted to leave. It seems we inhabit different versions of Britain.
My hope now is of a fudge that keeps us in the common market, with free movement of people. Then in a few years we can rejoin the EU and eventually the Euro. We can then play our full part in Europe, which is what we should have been doing from the start.
What would also be interesting to know is what the leavers have actually voted for? I know those that have voted for us to leave the EU in its entirety, and I know those that voted to leave the EU but stay in the single market. So the leave vote it's self is split over what level of leave people have voted for.
Edited by jonnyb on Saturday 25th June 15:00
I also think for a significant number of leave voters this was actually a vote about immigration and they are going to be really pissed off when they realise this will not halt immigration and there are not suddenly going to be boat loads of brown skinned people being shipped out of the UK.
jonnyb said:
The problem with this vote, as any, is interpretation.
The majority of people in this country have not voted to leave the EU, just as the majority have not voted to stay either.
In a general election the vast majority of the population don't vote for the winning government.
I voted remain, and can't quite get my head around the fact the people voted to leave. It seems we inhabit different versions of Britain.
My hope now is of a fudge that keeps us in the common market, with free movement of people. Then in a few years we can rejoin the EU and [b]eventually the Euro[b]. We can then play our full part in Europe, which is what we should have been doing from the start.
What would also be interesting to know is what the leavers have actually voted for? I know those that have voted for us to leave the EU in its entirety, and I know those that voted to leave the EU but stay in the single market. So the leave vote it's self is split over what level of leave people have voted for.
Why do we want to retain free movement of people?The majority of people in this country have not voted to leave the EU, just as the majority have not voted to stay either.
In a general election the vast majority of the population don't vote for the winning government.
I voted remain, and can't quite get my head around the fact the people voted to leave. It seems we inhabit different versions of Britain.
My hope now is of a fudge that keeps us in the common market, with free movement of people. Then in a few years we can rejoin the EU and [b]eventually the Euro[b]. We can then play our full part in Europe, which is what we should have been doing from the start.
What would also be interesting to know is what the leavers have actually voted for? I know those that have voted for us to leave the EU in its entirety, and I know those that voted to leave the EU but stay in the single market. So the leave vote it's self is split over what level of leave people have voted for.
Why on earth would we want to join the Euro?
All the people signing petitions asking for a 2nd EU referendum need to go away and research the meaning of the word "democracy". You can't just keep polling, on any subject, until you get the answer you want. While you've got the dictionary open, look up "authoritarianism" too. What will we do if we don't like the outcome of the next General Election? Or any other public vote? The next X Factor winner? Keep repeating it until we do? The irony is very strong here.
JawKnee said:
jonnyb said:
My hope now is of a fudge that keeps us in the common market, with free movement of people. Then in a few years we can rejoin the EU and eventually the Euro. We can then play our full part in Europe, which is what we should have been doing from the start.
This.You'd probably get most people behind a common market
VolvoT5 said:
I also think for a significant number of leave voters this was actually a vote about immigration and they are going to be really pissed off when they realise this will not halt immigration and there are not suddenly going to be boat loads of brown skinned people being shipped out of the UK.
Whoah!!!! Farage and the Leavers said quite categorically that we would be able to regain control of our own borders!!!! Next thing you know he'll be saying that we haven't got £350m/week to spend on the NHS 
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