Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
Discussion
sidicks said:
PRTVR said:
I agree but as I pointed out why have we ended up so dependent on a single sector,is that sensible?
So you agree they've not been treated badly at all - there's simply no point throwing good money after bad?As above - comparative advantage - you do what you are bet placed to do, and leave the other stuff to other people.
We still have a fairly large amount of manufacturing, it's just very different than the stuff we used to do.
I noticed a line of British army trucks going down the A1, all MAN trucks, what if Germany decided that it disagreed with some conflict we end up in, with Germany refusing then to supply truck or parts, not a good position to be in,
we appear to have given up on making things that other EU countries have not,this leaves us dependent on the financial services and an unbalanced economy.
the desperation is awfully sad PRTVR said:
But we are still dependent on the financial sector for a large part of our income , yes manufacturing still takes place but how you structure your economy is important, let's take a simple thing like a ferry boat, a few years ago a new one was reqired, we are unable to build one now,ended up being built in Germany using German steel, maintaining German jobs, how many products do you say we are not going to do that somebody else can do it,
I noticed a line of British army trucks going down the A1, all MAN trucks, what if Germany decided that it disagreed with some conflict we end up in, with Germany refusing then to supply truck or parts, not a good position to be in,
we appear to have given up on making things that other EU countries have not,this leaves us dependent on the financial services and an unbalanced economy.
Are you actually serious with this, or trolling? I noticed a line of British army trucks going down the A1, all MAN trucks, what if Germany decided that it disagreed with some conflict we end up in, with Germany refusing then to supply truck or parts, not a good position to be in,
we appear to have given up on making things that other EU countries have not,this leaves us dependent on the financial services and an unbalanced economy.
jjlynn27 said:
hidetheelephants said:
The sanctions allowed by the rules are reciprocal, i.e. restrictions on UK subjects entering the EU for work might be put in place. There is no framework for anything more punitive such as trade sanctions, tariffs etc. Let's not introduce xenophobia to an otherwise sensible debate please.
Look at part 3 of art113.article 114 said:
If a safeguard measure taken by a Contracting Party creates an imbalance between the rights and obligations under this agreement, any other Contracting Party may towards that Contracting Party take such proportionate rebalancing measures as are strictly necessary to remedy the imbalance. Priority shall be given to such measures as will least disturb the functioning of the EEA
Stickyfinger said:
///ajd said:
Stickyfinger said:
Post it again
Click on ///ajd - its in my profile.
ks....that is it?, that is the only photo you have on you fabled car ?....LOLYou put that up so quickly it is even upside down you donk....
Edited by Stickyfinger on Friday 22 July 22:40
Its not possible to post a picture of a 911 clock with a finger pointing at 122mph - the top speed of a AH3000 that was the subject of the last post - in 5 minutes unless the car belongs to me is it?
Its upside down as the iphone corrected it - only showed up upside down once uploaded and as it was convincing enough to anyone with even half a brain, I didn't bother to invert the photo.
The fact that you still aren't convinced is absolutely hilarious, but also rather sad.
sidicks said:
Fastdruid said:
The point with the steel industry isn't so much about about throwing good money after bad it's that the EU (specifically the energy policies) makes production of steel (and aluminium and other energy intensive manufacturing) massively more expensive than it should be, hence uncompetitive and so loses money, especially when combined with a strong pound. Now I'm not sure that we could totally compete with say China even with "normal" energy costs but at least we'd have a fighting chance!
I know that, you know that, but it seems that PRTVR thinks that the government should have provided ongoing subsidies to the industry (why, it is not yet clear...)hidetheelephants said:
jjlynn27 said:
hidetheelephants said:
The sanctions allowed by the rules are reciprocal, i.e. restrictions on UK subjects entering the EU for work might be put in place. There is no framework for anything more punitive such as trade sanctions, tariffs etc. Let's not introduce xenophobia to an otherwise sensible debate please.
Look at part 3 of art113.article 114 said:
If a safeguard measure taken by a Contracting Party creates an imbalance between the rights and obligations under this agreement, any other Contracting Party may towards that Contracting Party take such proportionate rebalancing measures as are strictly necessary to remedy the imbalance. Priority shall be given to such measures as will least disturb the functioning of the EEA
113 3 said:
3. The Contracting Party concerned may not take safeguard measures until one month
has elapsed after the date of notification under paragraph 1, unless the consultation
procedure under paragraph 2 has been concluded before the expiration of the stated
time-limit. When exceptional circumstances requiring immediate action exclude prior
examination, the Contracting Party concerned may apply forthwith the protective
measures strictly necessary to remedy the situation.
has elapsed after the date of notification under paragraph 1, unless the consultation
procedure under paragraph 2 has been concluded before the expiration of the stated
time-limit. When exceptional circumstances requiring immediate action exclude prior
examination, the Contracting Party concerned may apply forthwith the protective
measures strictly necessary to remedy the situation.
113 5 said:
5. The safeguard measures taken shall be the subject of consultations in the EEA Joint
Committee every three months from the date of their adoption with a view to their
abolition before the date of expiry envisaged, or to the limitation of their scope of
application.
We've been here before.Committee every three months from the date of their adoption with a view to their
abolition before the date of expiry envisaged, or to the limitation of their scope of
application.
It's a temporary measure. Application to Licht is purely because of it's size. It's explicit in agreement in Licht that I've posted here, based on size and fact that 37% of population are foreign born.
///ajd said:
Of course its not the only one. I could post any old picture of a 911 couldn't I?
Its not possible to post a picture of a 911 clock with a finger pointing at 122mph - the top speed of a AH3000 that was the subject of the last post - in 5 minutes unless the car belongs to me is it?
Its upside down as the iphone corrected it - only showed up upside down once uploaded and as it was convincing enough to anyone with even half a brain, I didn't bother to invert the photo.
The fact that you still aren't convinced is absolutely hilarious, but also rather sad.
Its not possible to post a picture of a 911 clock with a finger pointing at 122mph - the top speed of a AH3000 that was the subject of the last post - in 5 minutes unless the car belongs to me is it?
Its upside down as the iphone corrected it - only showed up upside down once uploaded and as it was convincing enough to anyone with even half a brain, I didn't bother to invert the photo.
The fact that you still aren't convinced is absolutely hilarious, but also rather sad.
Jockman said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Not quite sure how any of this answers the exam question of whether or not May's (or any other's) Govt will ever trigger Article 50....
She will. But only when we are ready. Whenever that is. As yet, I doubt she knows which way it's going to go
Fastdruid said:
The point with the steel industry isn't so much about about throwing good money after bad it's that the EU (specifically the energy policies) makes production of steel (and aluminium and other energy intensive manufacturing) massively more expensive than it should be, hence uncompetitive and so loses money, especially when combined with a strong pound. Now I'm not sure that we could totally compete with say China even with "normal" energy costs but at least we'd have a fighting chance!
Just seen this. 2 things. Energy cost has been done to oblivion on another thread, in short; energy prices for extra large users (steel industry) are higher in Germany than UK. UK was one of the countries very much supporting green taxes.
UK was pushing for lowering taxes on China's steel.
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