Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[andymadmak]

///ajd said:

Whats the priority by the way - our economy or keeping people out? Choose carefully, can't have both as all brexiters know!!

Is that the choice? Really? I think not

[///ajd]

Ghibli said:

andymadmak said:

Ghibli said:

Tuna said:

Ah, so now your criteria for success is 'the land of milk and honey', '350m', 'tighter control of immigration' and anything else you can find from the many discussions on Brexit. You know full well that there are no circumstances under which all of those things will be delivered, and I doubt you will find a single pro-Brexit voter who believed all of those things would be delivered. But by taking that stance you can comfortably guarantee that you'll be able to state that Brexit has been a failure.

Someone had better tell the government this, we wouldn't want them wasting their time.

Wow, fantastic. Someone with an inside track on what the Governments negotiating position is. Can you give us more details?

Perhaps you could enlighten me of what their objective is ?

This could be enlightening.

Please list objectives in order of priority, just in case santa can't deliver all of them concurrently.

[anonymous-user]

andymadmak said:

Ghibli said:

What makes you think I had anymore say than you when I put X in the box ?

well I suppose when you respond like this.......

Ghibli said:

Tuna said:

Ah, so now your criteria for success is 'the land of milk and honey', '350m', 'tighter control of immigration' and anything else you can find from the many discussions on Brexit. You know full well that there are no circumstances under which all of those things will be delivered, and I doubt you will find a single pro-Brexit voter who believed all of those things would be delivered. But by taking that stance you can comfortably guarantee that you'll be able to state that Brexit has been a failure.

Someone had better tell the government this, we wouldn't want them wasting their time.

....it sort of implied that you knew what the Government negotiating positions were. After all, only someone who knew them could suggest that they might be wasting their time unless informed of these new facts..... Or maybe you were just trying to be clever. Never mind, it does not matter.

This forum is pistonheads not Parliment.

[andymadmak]

///ajd said:

Ghibli said:

andymadmak said:

Ghibli said:

Tuna said:

Ah, so now your criteria for success is 'the land of milk and honey', '350m', 'tighter control of immigration' and anything else you can find from the many discussions on Brexit. You know full well that there are no circumstances under which all of those things will be delivered, and I doubt you will find a single pro-Brexit voter who believed all of those things would be delivered. But by taking that stance you can comfortably guarantee that you'll be able to state that Brexit has been a failure.

Someone had better tell the government this, we wouldn't want them wasting their time.

Wow, fantastic. Someone with an inside track on what the Governments negotiating position is. Can you give us more details?

Perhaps you could enlighten me of what their objective is ?

This could be enlightening.

Please list objectives in order of priority, just in case santa can't deliver all of them concurrently.

Nah, I'm not doing the negotiating. Found 10 people who believed the 350million thing yet?

[dan98]

andymadmak said:

If a Brit has the right qualifications to live and work somewhere else in Europe I am sure they will still be welcomed. Otherwise, are you not simply making gizlaroc's point for him by complaining about loss of that right for the comparatively few unqualified individuals who would exercise it ? Is it not proof that only those who were concerned about there own personal position would have voted Remain?

Anything is possible, but Brexit will make it harder to live, work, set up business, gain employment, gain rights and live a normal life, in an EU country. Whatever you think about politics, the freedom to branch out across Europe has gone forever.
To a Brexiter these things are irrelevant - I'm simply illustrating how to others a decision to Remain is not purely based on 'ignorance'.

[///ajd]

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

Ghibli said:

andymadmak said:

Ghibli said:

Tuna said:

Ah, so now your criteria for success is 'the land of milk and honey', '350m', 'tighter control of immigration' and anything else you can find from the many discussions on Brexit. You know full well that there are no circumstances under which all of those things will be delivered, and I doubt you will find a single pro-Brexit voter who believed all of those things would be delivered. But by taking that stance you can comfortably guarantee that you'll be able to state that Brexit has been a failure.

Someone had better tell the government this, we wouldn't want them wasting their time.

Wow, fantastic. Someone with an inside track on what the Governments negotiating position is. Can you give us more details?

Perhaps you could enlighten me of what their objective is ?

This could be enlightening.

Please list objectives in order of priority, just in case santa can't deliver all of them concurrently.

Nah, I'm not doing the negotiating. Found 10 people who believed the 350million thing yet?

You don't have objectives for brexit?

I'm sure I can find alot more than 10 brexiters who will think the £350m/huge cash back was justified - many here tried to defend it as I recall, it was funny to watch Dominic Whatshisface trying to do that to the select committee. Remember that, and the chairmans withering contempt for such idiocy?

[andymadmak]

///ajd said:

You don't have objectives for brexit?

I'm sure I can find alot more than 10 brexiters who will think the £350m/huge cash back was justified - many here tried to defend it as I recall, it was funny to watch Dominic Whatshisface trying to do that to the select committee. Remember that, and the chairmans withering contempt for such idiocy?

No no, 350million to the NHS has been your mantra has it not?

[///ajd]

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

You don't have objectives for brexit?

I'm sure I can find alot more than 10 brexiters who will think the £350m/huge cash back was justified - many here tried to defend it as I recall, it was funny to watch Dominic Whatshisface trying to do that to the select committee. Remember that, and the chairmans withering contempt for such idiocy?

No no, 350million to the NHS has been your mantra has it not?

Thats what it said on the bus. The committee pulled them to bits about the NHS leaflets too.

Still no brexit objectives? Are you afraid to declare them?

[London424]

dan98 said:

andymadmak said:

If a Brit has the right qualifications to live and work somewhere else in Europe I am sure they will still be welcomed. Otherwise, are you not simply making gizlaroc's point for him by complaining about loss of that right for the comparatively few unqualified individuals who would exercise it ? Is it not proof that only those who were concerned about there own personal position would have voted Remain?

Anything is possible, but Brexit will make it harder to live, work, set up business, gain employment, gain rights and live a normal life, in an EU country. Whatever you think about politics, the freedom to branch out across Europe has gone forever.
To a Brexiter these things are irrelevant - I'm simply illustrating how to others a decision to Remain is not purely based on 'ignorance'.

Have you tried to live/work/set up business/gain employment etc in any other EU country?

[andymadmak]

///ajd said:

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

You don't have objectives for brexit?

I'm sure I can find alot more than 10 brexiters who will think the £350m/huge cash back was justified - many here tried to defend it as I recall, it was funny to watch Dominic Whatshisface trying to do that to the select committee. Remember that, and the chairmans withering contempt for such idiocy?

No no, 350million to the NHS has been your mantra has it not?

Thats what it said on the bus. The committee pulled them to bits about the NHS leaflets too.

Still no brexit objectives? Are you afraid to declare them?

I'm not afraid of anything, but it seems pointless trying to debate Brexit objectives with you given your mindset. . You've been banging on about 350million to the NHS being a factor in winning the Referendum, and yet when you're called on it you cannot even provide 10 Brexit voters out of more than 17 million that agree with your position.

[dan98]

London424 said:

Have you tried to live/work/set up business/gain employment etc in any other EU country?

Yes - done.

[///ajd]

andymadmak said:

I'm not afraid of anything, but it seems pointless trying to debate Brexit objectives with you given your mindset. . You've been banging on about 350million to the NHS being a factor in winning the Referendum, and yet when you're called on it you cannot even provide 10 Brexit voters out of more than 17 million that agree with your position.

It seems quite clear you are very much afraid to post up any brexit objectives. One is left wondering why you voted leave at all if you can't express any benefits that will arise from our departure - have you forgotten them or are the ones you wanted now just demonstrable lies so you'd rather not say?

[andymadmak]

///ajd said:

It seems quite clear you are very much afraid to post up any brexit objectives. One is left wondering why you voted leave at all if you can't express any benefits that will arise from our departure - have you forgotten them or are the ones you wanted now just demonstrable lies so you'd rather not say?

whatever. You lost. get over it

[Fastdruid]

///ajd said:

andymadmak said:

I'm not afraid of anything, but it seems pointless trying to debate Brexit objectives with you given your mindset. . You've been banging on about 350million to the NHS being a factor in winning the Referendum, and yet when you're called on it you cannot even provide 10 Brexit voters out of more than 17 million that agree with your position.

It seems quite clear you are very much afraid to post up any brexit objectives.

Leave the EU. That is the single objective.

[coldsnap]

Fastdruid said:

Leave the EU. That is the single objective.

Ain't that the truth, no matter what the cost

[///ajd]

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

It seems quite clear you are very much afraid to post up any brexit objectives. One is left wondering why you voted leave at all if you can't express any benefits that will arise from our departure - have you forgotten them or are the ones you wanted now just demonstrable lies so you'd rather not say?

whatever. You lost. get over it

One month in and some brexiteers are no longer prepared to admit why they voted leave.

It would be easier to deal with if brexiteers weren't now admitting it was infact pointless.

[loafer123]

///ajd said:

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

It seems quite clear you are very much afraid to post up any brexit objectives. One is left wondering why you voted leave at all if you can't express any benefits that will arise from our departure - have you forgotten them or are the ones you wanted now just demonstrable lies so you'd rather not say?

whatever. You lost. get over it

One month in and some brexiteers are no longer prepared to admit why they voted leave.

It would be easier to deal with if brexiteers weren't now admitting it was infact pointless.

I seriously wonder how you are still employed, given the drivel you come out with and percentage of your working day you spend doing it.

Are you sure your boss hasn't noticed? Especially the new keyboards?

[///ajd]

loafer123 said:

///ajd said:

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

It seems quite clear you are very much afraid to post up any brexit objectives. One is left wondering why you voted leave at all if you can't express any benefits that will arise from our departure - have you forgotten them or are the ones you wanted now just demonstrable lies so you'd rather not say?

whatever. You lost. get over it

One month in and some brexiteers are no longer prepared to admit why they voted leave.

It would be easier to deal with if brexiteers weren't now admitting it was infact pointless.

I seriously wonder how you are still employed, given the drivel you come out with and percentage of your working day you spend doing it.

Are you sure your boss hasn't noticed? Especially the new keyboards?

I never post whilst at work - way too busy.

I'm amazed anyone here posts while at work - haven't they got real jobs? Don't they know there is a brexit on that we all have to knuckle down harder for?

Still no objectives then? How about a nice Rover 75 Brexit - something to aim for.

[Pan Pan Pan]

dan98 said:

andymadmak said:

If a Brit has the right qualifications to live and work somewhere else in Europe I am sure they will still be welcomed. Otherwise, are you not simply making gizlaroc's point for him by complaining about loss of that right for the comparatively few unqualified individuals who would exercise it ? Is it not proof that only those who were concerned about there own personal position would have voted Remain?

Anything is possible, but Brexit will make it harder to live, work, set up business, gain employment, gain rights and live a normal life, in an EU country. Whatever you think about politics, the freedom to branch out across Europe has gone forever.
To a Brexiter these things are irrelevant - I'm simply illustrating how to others a decision to Remain is not purely based on 'ignorance'.

Why do you think 333 plus thousand EU nationals are trying to get into the UK each year? Do you think they come here for our wonderful climate, or the exotic gourmet food available even in the greasiest of greasy spoon café`s, or for our unending acres of wonderful low cost living space, or our lightly used public transport system and roads? it is because there is NO work in many EU countries that hundreds of thousands of EU nationals are trying to get into the UK every year. All membership of the EU gives a UK national is the right in `principle' to live and work in other EU states. But the practical reality of getting work in many EU states is very different,(and when the going gets tough in other EU states the first to be given their marching orders are the UK nationals living and working in Europe in favour of keeping the locals in the job)
it seems many have swallowed the lies about the EU being a golden place for UK nationals to go and live and work in, hook, line and sinker.

[Robertj21a]

///ajd said:

I never post whilst at work - way too busy.

I'm amazed anyone here posts while at work - haven't they got real jobs? Don't they know there is a brexit on that we all have to knuckle down harder for?

Still no objectives then? How about a nice Rover 75 Brexit - something to aim for.

I voted to leave because I didn't want to be a part of the EU with their aim for 'ever greater unity'.