Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
Discussion
sidicks said:
HoHoHo said:
Guilty until proven innocent......
Overall, close to 2.5m signatures had been garnered from within the UK by Sunday lunchtime, making up an overwhelming proportion of the whole, although it’s difficult to tell how many of these were genuine.
Slightly more than 400,000
Clearly until we know what we're dealing with we can all quote what we like.
Edited by HoHoHo on Sunday 26th June 21:46
Edited by HoHoHo on Sunday 26th June 21:49
REALIST123 said:
audidoody said:
The EU technocrats have made it quite clear the UK can go to hell in a hand cart.
How can we attempt to renegotiate with such intransigence?
Here's scenario - Jean-Claude Juncker resigns on the basis he has presided over the UK's departure. A new commissioner is appointed more conciliatory to the UK and that the EU will concentrate on trade and tone down its attempts to leech the sovereignty of member states,
Who knows where that would lead us?
How can we attempt to renegotiate with such intransigence?
Here's scenario - Jean-Claude Juncker resigns on the basis he has presided over the UK's departure. A new commissioner is appointed more conciliatory to the UK and that the EU will concentrate on trade and tone down its attempts to leech the sovereignty of member states,
Who knows where that would lead us?
Your first sentence illustrates why we quite possibly made the right decision last week.
The rest of your post would seem to be a welcome idea were it to happen, though I can't see why the member states leaders can't simply put him in his place, including our 'leaders' at this time.
It does seem that the UK could leave and negotiate a trade deal that would cause minimal damage to anyone's economy or peoples. However, there are politicians, especially within the EC, whose egos trump any rational thought and it looks more likely that their revenge will take priority, whatever the consequences.
HoHoHo said:
s2art said:
sidicks said:
HoHoHo said:
A vote asking for a second referendum signed by over 3,000,000 people was actually started by a leave voter who thought they would lose (oh the irony...)
Suggest you keep up with the latest news on this...Over to you.
HoHoHo said:
sidicks said:
HoHoHo said:
Guilty until proven innocent......
Overall, close to 2.5m signatures had been garnered from within the UK by Sunday lunchtime, making up an overwhelming proportion of the whole, although it’s difficult to tell how many of these were genuine.
Slightly more than 400,000
HoHoHo said:
sidicks said:
HoHoHo said:
Guilty until proven innocent......
Overall, close to 2.5m signatures had been garnered from within the UK by Sunday lunchtime, making up an overwhelming proportion of the whole, although it’s difficult to tell how many of these were genuine.
Slightly more than 400,000
HoHoHo said:
sidicks said:
HoHoHo said:
Guilty until proven innocent......
Overall, close to 2.5m signatures had been garnered from within the UK by Sunday lunchtime, making up an overwhelming proportion of the whole, although it’s difficult to tell how many of these were genuine.
Slightly more than 400,000
Once we Know what we're dealing with we can all quote what we like.
Edited by HoHoHo on Sunday 26th June 21:46
Who didn't notice 4 chan had been bragging and posting bot scripts for a couple of days.
Merc 450 said:
HoHoHo said:
sidicks said:
HoHoHo said:
Guilty until proven innocent......
Overall, close to 2.5m signatures had been garnered from within the UK by Sunday lunchtime, making up an overwhelming proportion of the whole, although it’s difficult to tell how many of these were genuine.
Slightly more than 400,000
Was he being interviewed by the DM at the time
ralphrj said:
Einion Yrth said:
Looks Ok to me, and not dissimilar to my post.
I think that the important bit is that we have a plan before invoking article 50.EFTA seems like a good compromise to me but I am only an ordinary person reading up on it, the devil is in the detail and it needs to be fully evaluated by people smarter than me with access to the full info.
EFTA does fulfill the wishes of the majority by leaving the EU but it doesn't cut us off completely from the rest of Europe.
If there is a second referendum then it should not be the same question again but perhaps between the options 2 and 3 of my post above.
Except EU leaders are saying we will categorically NOT be getting an EFTA agreement, as far as I can see.
PorkInsider said:
ralphrj said:
Einion Yrth said:
Looks Ok to me, and not dissimilar to my post.
I think that the important bit is that we have a plan before invoking article 50.EFTA seems like a good compromise to me but I am only an ordinary person reading up on it, the devil is in the detail and it needs to be fully evaluated by people smarter than me with access to the full info.
EFTA does fulfill the wishes of the majority by leaving the EU but it doesn't cut us off completely from the rest of Europe.
If there is a second referendum then it should not be the same question again but perhaps between the options 2 and 3 of my post above.
Except EU leaders are saying we will categorically NOT be getting an EFTA agreement, as far as I can see.
Einion Yrth said:
PorkInsider said:
ralphrj said:
Einion Yrth said:
Looks Ok to me, and not dissimilar to my post.
I think that the important bit is that we have a plan before invoking article 50.EFTA seems like a good compromise to me but I am only an ordinary person reading up on it, the devil is in the detail and it needs to be fully evaluated by people smarter than me with access to the full info.
EFTA does fulfill the wishes of the majority by leaving the EU but it doesn't cut us off completely from the rest of Europe.
If there is a second referendum then it should not be the same question again but perhaps between the options 2 and 3 of my post above.
Except EU leaders are saying we will categorically NOT be getting an EFTA agreement, as far as I can see.
HoHoHo said:
Merc 450 said:
HoHoHo said:
sidicks said:
HoHoHo said:
Guilty until proven innocent......
Overall, close to 2.5m signatures had been garnered from within the UK by Sunday lunchtime, making up an overwhelming proportion of the whole, although it’s difficult to tell how many of these were genuine.
Slightly more than 400,000
Was he being interviewed by the DM at the time
kurt535 said:
BBC news discussing a 2nd referendum based off whatever deal new pm gets for brexit is put to uk to decide if we take it or stay in.
Hasn't that always been Boris's plan (which in turn highlights that "Brexit" is itself an umbrella for a broad range of views as to what the country should do after a Leave vote)?PRTVR said:
dfen5 said:
The watering down has begun in earnest. No need for a second referendum, Brexit's finished before it started.
And if that happened it would see the destruction of any political party that supported this, going against the Democratic process is not a clever thing to do.We now have a country at political civil war, likely to get worse in the coming weeks.
dfen5 said:
The watering down has begun in earnest. No need for a second referendum, Brexit's finished before it started.
Yup.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36637037
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