Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[///ajd]

rs1952 said:

You are both of course aware that a petition that gets more than 100,000 signatures gets debated in Parliament. This one has passed that number so it has jumped the only hurdle.

That does not of course mean that Parliament is bound to act upon it, but just have a formal chat about it. Anybody who thinks that this petition is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the length of time between now and when article 50 is invoked is, shall we say, naïve bordering on delusional.

Yes, I can believe that is a reasonable explanation.

[anonymous-user]

rs1952 said:

You are both of course aware that a petition that gets more than 100,000 signatures gets debated in Parliament. This one has passed that number so it has jumped the only hurdle.

That does not of course mean that Parliament is bound to act upon it, but just have a formal chat about it. Anybody who thinks that this petition is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the length of time between now and when article 50 is invoked is, shall we say, naïve bordering on delusional.

Considering the responce says the following you could be right.


The British people have voted to leave the EU and their will must be respected and delivered. The process for leaving the EU and determining our future relationship will be a complex one, so we need to take time to think through our objectives and approach. We want to ensure the best possible outcome for Britain and the future UK-EU relationship. As part of this, the government will of course work closely with the devolved administrations to ensure we get the best deal for the UK as a whole. We should not trigger Article 50 until we have a UK approach and objectives, so Article 50 should not be invoked before the end of this year.

Department for Exiting the European Union

[alfie2244]

rs1952 said:

don4l said:

alfie2244 said:

Not seen this anywhere on here already.

Petition Invoke Article 50 of The Lisbon Treaty immediately.

The British people have spoken. We have voted to leave the EU. We want article 50 of the Lisbon treaty to be invoked immediately. We still have two years to discuss our exit from the EU, but we do not wish to delay it any further.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

Signed.

Thanks for sharing the link.

You are both of course aware that a petition that gets more than 100,000 signatures gets debated in Parliament. This one has passed that number so it has jumped the only hurdle.

That does not of course mean that Parliament is bound to act upon it, but just have a formal chat about it. Anybody who thinks that this petition is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the length of time between now and when article 50 is invoked is, shall we say, naïve bordering on delusional.

You old people ain't got a clue..........just ask your young mucker JJ.

[alfie2244]

Ghibli said:

rs1952 said:

You are both of course aware that a petition that gets more than 100,000 signatures gets debated in Parliament. This one has passed that number so it has jumped the only hurdle.

That does not of course mean that Parliament is bound to act upon it, but just have a formal chat about it. Anybody who thinks that this petition is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the length of time between now and when article 50 is invoked is, shall we say, naïve bordering on delusional.

Considering the responce says the following you could be right.


The British people have voted to leave the EU and their will must be respected and delivered. The process for leaving the EU and determining our future relationship will be a complex one, so we need to take time to think through our objectives and approach. We want to ensure the best possible outcome for Britain and the future UK-EU relationship. As part of this, the government will of course work closely with the devolved administrations to ensure we get the best deal for the UK as a whole. We should not trigger Article 50 until we have a UK approach and objectives, so Article 50 should not be invoked before the end of this year.

Department for Exiting the European Union

If the silly old fool had read my post properly he would have realised I had seen that

[rs1952]

alfie2244 said:

Ghibli said:

rs1952 said:

You are both of course aware that a petition that gets more than 100,000 signatures gets debated in Parliament. This one has passed that number so it has jumped the only hurdle.

That does not of course mean that Parliament is bound to act upon it, but just have a formal chat about it. Anybody who thinks that this petition is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the length of time between now and when article 50 is invoked is, shall we say, naïve bordering on delusional.

Considering the responce says the following you could be right.


The British people have voted to leave the EU and their will must be respected and delivered. The process for leaving the EU and determining our future relationship will be a complex one, so we need to take time to think through our objectives and approach. We want to ensure the best possible outcome for Britain and the future UK-EU relationship. As part of this, the government will of course work closely with the devolved administrations to ensure we get the best deal for the UK as a whole. We should not trigger Article 50 until we have a UK approach and objectives, so Article 50 should not be invoked before the end of this year.

Department for Exiting the European Union

If the silly old fool had read my post properly he would have realised I had seen that

So let's get this straight.

You came across an "invoke article 50" petition.

You read the government response which was, in summary, "fk off"

But you posted the link anyway.

Then Don thanks you for posting the link, saying he'd signed the petition.

And I'm the silly old fool

[///ajd]

rs1952 said:

So let's get this straight.

You came across an "invoke article 50" petition.

You read the government response which was, in summary, "fk off"

But you posted the link anyway.

Then Don thanks you for posting the link, saying he'd signed the petition.

And I'm the silly old fool

Hot on the heels of the last petition faux pas.

[alfie2244]

rs1952 said:

So let's get this straight.

You came across an "invoke article 50" petition.

You read the government response which was, in summary, "fk off"

But you posted the link anyway.

Then Don thanks you for posting the link, saying he'd signed the petition.

And I'm the silly old fool

Yes because I said: "Has been responded to already..how did I miss this? old and senile I suppose"

Ergo I was surprised this petition had been presented, had so many signatures and been responded to (dismissed) without my knowing the 1st thing about it..perhaps being a stupid old man you should have voted OUT like the rest of us rather than trying to be clever and down with kids but making an arse of yourself instead.

[anonymous-user]

alfie2244 said:

Yes because I said: "Has been responded to already..how did I miss this? old and senile I suppose"

Ergo I was surprised this petition had been presented, had so many signatures and been responded to (dismissed) without my knowing the 1st thing about it..perhaps being a stupid old man you should have voted OUT like the rest of us rather than trying to be clever and down with kids but making an arse of yourself instead.

I've read this a few times & it still makes no sense

[alfie2244]

Jimboka said:

I've read this a few times & it still makes no sense

Hardly surprising from someone that thinks Angela Eagle has that something which would appeal to the masses and offer genuine respectful opposition.

[don4l]

rs1952 said:

don4l said:

alfie2244 said:

Not seen this anywhere on here already.

Petition Invoke Article 50 of The Lisbon Treaty immediately.

The British people have spoken. We have voted to leave the EU. We want article 50 of the Lisbon treaty to be invoked immediately. We still have two years to discuss our exit from the EU, but we do not wish to delay it any further.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

Signed.

Thanks for sharing the link.

You are both of course aware that a petition that gets more than 100,000 signatures gets debated in Parliament. This one has passed that number so it has jumped the only hurdle.

That does not of course mean that Parliament is bound to act upon it, but just have a formal chat about it. Anybody who thinks that this petition is going to make the slightest bit of difference to the length of time between now and when article 50 is invoked is, shall we say, naïve bordering on delusional.

Of course, you are absolutely correct.

We are not going to leave the EU, are we? [/sarc]

We have voted to leave the sinking ship, and we are going to do so. The beauty is that our lifeboat is the fifth strongest lifeboat on the planet.

The sooner we Leave, the better.

We really do not want to get caught up in another rescue of Greece, or Italy. They have mismanaged their economies on a grand scale. Why should hard working British people bail them out?

Why should hard working British benefits claimants see their income reduced just to make the lives of Greek benifit claimants more easy?

[rs1952]

Jimboka said:

alfie2244 said:

Yes because I said: "Has been responded to already..how did I miss this? old and senile I suppose"

Ergo I was surprised this petition had been presented, had so many signatures and been responded to (dismissed) without my knowing the 1st thing about it..perhaps being a stupid old man you should have voted OUT like the rest of us rather than trying to be clever and down with kids but making an arse of yourself instead.

I've read this a few times & it still makes no sense

To be fair to Alf, and I’m not quite sure why I’m feeling that magnanimous tonight after he’s called me a silly old fool, a stupid old man and accused me of making an arse of myself (he’s got a way with words, has Alf), some confusion appears to have arisen because Don edited a sentence from the original post. This sentence read

alfie2244 said:

Has been responded to already..how did I miss this? old and senile I suppose

There was an interesting turn at the end:

alfie2244 said:

perhaps being a stupid old man you should have voted OUT like the rest of us

Stupid I may be Alf, but not that stupid

Mind you, all this doesn’t say much for Don’s cognitive powers…

And finally, I've been insulted by far better people than Alf, so that's water off a duck's back. I was once called a cult by the Guardian...

[rs1952]

don4l said:

1. Of course, you are absolutely correct.

2. We are not going to leave the EU, are we? [/sarc]

3. We have voted to leave the sinking ship, and we are going to do so. The beauty is that our lifeboat is the fifth strongest lifeboat on the planet.

4. The sooner we Leave, the better.

5. We really do not want to get caught up in another rescue of Greece, or Italy. They have mismanaged their economies on a grand scale. Why should hard working British people bail them out?

6. Why should hard working British benefits claimants see their income reduced just to make the lives of Greek benifit claimants more easy?

Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear... Don's points numbered to aid a speedy response.

1. Thank you.

2. Nobody has said that we weren't leaving the EU in this current spat. I wonder where you got that from?

3. Yeah. Right. Time will tell.

4. I don't think the Prime Minister or at least half the cabinet agrees with you. They realise that to do this properly will take time

5. We didn't bail them out last time. We aren't in the EZ you know.

6. "hard working British benefits claimants" This is PH. Claimants are workshy scroungers. Didn't you know that?

[alfie2244]

rs1952 said:

I was once called a cult by the Guardian...

Apology accepted........you need to get your keyboard fixed and stop it doing "L" instead of "N"

[FiF]

Ever heard the expression of peeing on someone's chips? Maybe Remainers about to experience more than vinegar on their fried potatoes.

Theresa May will trigger Brexit negotiations without commons vote

Lumpy waters ahead nevertheless.

[Derek Smith]

FiF said:

Ever heard the expression of peeing on someone's chips? Maybe Remainers about to experience more than vinegar on their fried potatoes.

Theresa May will trigger Brexit negotiations without commons vote

Lumpy waters ahead nevertheless.

Hmm. The Telegraph has learned, has it.

It's guff. It is their little bit of pressure on the government. It is a paper trying to run the country. I mean, who does the editor think he is, Murdoch?

I seriously doubt they have a hot line to May and is is unlikely that she'd go off record to something akin to the Sun and Mirror.

[anonymous-user]

Derek Smith said:

Hmm. The Telegraph has learned, has it.

It's guff. It is their little bit of pressure on the government. It is a paper trying to run the country. I mean, who does the editor think he is, Murdoch?

I seriously doubt they have a hot line to May and is is unlikely that she'd go off record to something akin to the Sun and Mirror.

Derek, you just keep your fingers in your ears saying la, la, la.

I really thought we'd have gone past the denial phase by now.

[Ridgemont]

Derek Smith said:

FiF said:

Ever heard the expression of peeing on someone's chips? Maybe Remainers about to experience more than vinegar on their fried potatoes.

Theresa May will trigger Brexit negotiations without commons vote

Lumpy waters ahead nevertheless.

Hmm. The Telegraph has learned, has it.

It's guff. It is their little bit of pressure on the government. It is a paper trying to run the country. I mean, who does the editor think he is, Murdoch?

I seriously doubt they have a hot line to May and is is unlikely that she'd go off record to something akin to the Sun and Mirror.

I doubt this is guff. Sourced to number 10. It's also on the money: it's a prerogative power and there isn't much the HoP can do about it.

[PurpleMoonlight]

don4l said:

Why should hard working British benefits claimants see their income reduced just to make the lives of Greek benifit claimants more easy?

This is without doubt the most absurd comment on this thread.

[anonymous-user]

PurpleMoonlight said:

This is without doubt the most absurd comment on this thread.

You are wrong as usual. There are many comments in this thread a lot more absurd. For example:

mikemike08 said:

What does Brexit even mean ? These guys turbo bmw man aint got a clue just arguing because they have no life outside the computer screen, kust like the daily mail posters

Or pick almost any comment from ajd and you could have a winner.

[FiF]

More "guff"