Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[Monkeylegend]

Esseesse said:

Monkeylegend said:

Farage has already backtracked on NHS investment.

We were not electing him. And I'd rather we didn't spend the entirety of our EU contributions on the NHS.

But there will almost certainly have been a lot of people voting to leave thinking this was going to happen as this was presented as one of his pledges during their advertising campaign.

You just can't trust these politicians nowadays, telling untruths to get your vote.

[DMN]

Monkeylegend said:

Esseesse said:

Monkeylegend said:

Farage has already backtracked on NHS investment.

We were not electing him. And I'd rather we didn't spend the entirety of our EU contributions on the NHS.

But there will almost certainly have been a lot of people voting to leave thinking this was going to happen as this was presented as one of his pledges during their advertising campaign.

You just can't trust these politicians nowadays, telling untruths to get your vote.

Yep, the mythical "£350 million" was promised many times over.

[EnglishTony]

Just appeared on my Facebook



I lol'd

[Lagerlout]

Esseesse said:

Monkeylegend said:

Farage has already backtracked on NHS investment.

We were not electing him. And I'd rather we didn't spend the entirety of our EU contributions on the NHS.

Oh, don't worry we won't be. We'll be spending it on recreating our own red tape after throwing out the current red tape.

[Monkeylegend]

rscott said:

Monkeylegend said:

Mr_B said:

Monkeylegend said:

Farage has already backtracked on NHS investment.

Link ?

Can't do links, I am a remain luddite, but on the BBC webpage there is a short video of him being interviewed on ITV this morning looking distinctly shifty.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/leave-campaigners-suggest-pledges-may-not-upheld/

Thanks

[Username888]

DMN said:

Another regretfull brexiter:
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/man-who-voted-for-le...

Even with the referendum now over, the irrelevant trivia just keeps on coming.

No wonder the Remoaners have absolutely no idea why the majority of the country have voted in this way if they just feed themselves with horsesh*t all day long.

[WestyCarl]

Weather it will happen or not I don't know, however I would guess there will be some attempts to make it happen;

The EU don't want UK to leave as this risks the whole EU so called "project"
Germany definitely don't want us to leave as they are no looking at much bigger bills
Most of the UK Government don't want us to leave

I'm not saying it's right but I can see an announcement in due course, before we've issued article 50, saying the EU has listened and is planning these reforms for all members, etc, etc.

The UK will then have a new referendum on the "New Europe" (and probably nothing will change in Europe )

[Frankthered]

rscott said:

Puggit said:

rscott said:

Serious question - what concessions would you like to see the EU offer?

It's a very valid question, and actually not one I was ready to answer.

Your ideas are certainly in the right direction, but will they appeal to the mass of Labour voters who swung this?

A good question. i guess that would depend on what the alternative is. If a compromise promised more control over immigration, that could appeal to a large number of those who voted leave. If opinion polls are to be believed (who knows any more!) then it was a major influence for a lot of leave voters.

This.

IMHO, control of immigration is the biggest single issue, particularly with the working class, Labour voters is that of eastern Europeans providing cheap labour (skilled and unskilled) and displacing the locals.

The other ideas, meh!

[mclwanB]

I very much hope you are right but I fear you arent

[Username888]

Monkeylegend said:

Esseesse said:

Monkeylegend said:

Farage has already backtracked on NHS investment.

We were not electing him. And I'd rather we didn't spend the entirety of our EU contributions on the NHS.

But there will almost certainly have been a lot of people voting to leave thinking this was going to happen as this was presented as one of his pledges during their advertising campaign.

You just can't trust these politicians nowadays, telling untruths to get your vote.

He hasn't back tracked at all. He didn't promise it, - he's not in power, so how could he? He simply made the point that the £350M a week we give to the EU, *could* be available to spend elsewhere, - like the NHS, for example. Where we spend it is a Government decision. Leaving the EU is the first step, the next will be to elect a better Government now that we live in a democracy.

The interviewer asked him a ridiculous question, I don't believe she's that ignorant, she was simply relying on the ignorance of viewers.

Cameron is gone, hopefully antisemite Corbyn will be next, - what we really need is PR at the next GE.

Leaving the EU is only the first step. Remoaners seem very short sighted.

[loafer123]

I think it would be a sensible result to bring together Norway, Switzerland and others in a formalised Associate Membership with a payment based on population for access to the single market, going to support the economic development of poorer EU countries, just as we do with our Overseas Development budget.

The Associate Membership would have a Points based visa system, with EU citizens getting extra points or a priority allocation on numbers.

It would help the EU to grow without being "all or nothing" and would give us the sovereignty, some cost savings and control over migration we seek.

All the better is that I suspect the Eurocrats would hate it, but the European leaders would see the benefit of decoupling Countries that don't want, or can't cope with core -EU (largely Euro) membership. Greece could step down to it, for example.

[crankedup]

I can hear lots of foot stamping and cries of 'it's not fair' coming from the remain camp. Some even want a re-run

[Jimbeaux]

kiethton said:

Digga said:

DMN said:

DMN said:

Seems some brexiters are having second thoughts now the damage has been done (video near the top):

https://twitter.com/SimonNRicketts

Another regretfull brexiter:
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/man-who-voted-for-le...

What a spacker.

Anyway, the uncertainty, that's a done deal, you can't wind the clock back on that one. Classic case of buyers remorse; plenty here on PH know about that through the car trade.

But buyers remorse at the expense of the young :/

By the time they get older, they'll realize the older, wiser people made a good choice for them.

[TEKNOPUG]

Esseesse said:

kiethton said:

Digga said:

DMN said:

DMN said:

Seems some brexiters are having second thoughts now the damage has been done (video near the top):

https://twitter.com/SimonNRicketts

Another regretfull brexiter:
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/man-who-voted-for-le...

What a spacker.

Anyway, the uncertainty, that's a done deal, you can't wind the clock back on that one. Classic case of buyers remorse; plenty here on PH know about that through the car trade.

But buyers remorse at the expense of the young :/

If we remain, as the young get older they will get buyers remorse. As those who voted in 1975 did.

43% turnout of under 25s. Yet it's the oldies fault for actually bothering to vote.....

[Monkeylegend]

loafer123 said:

I think it would be a sensible result to bring together Norway, Switzerland and others in a formalised Associate Membership with a payment based on population for access to the single market, going to support the economic development of poorer EU countries, just as we do with our Overseas Development budget.

The Associate Membership would have a Points based visa system, with EU citizens getting extra points or a priority allocation on numbers.

It would help the EU to grow without being "all or nothing" and would give us the sovereignty, some cost savings and control over migration we seek.

All the better is that I suspect the Eurocrats would hate it, but the European leaders would see the benefit of decoupling Countries that don't want, or can't cope with core -EU (largely Euro) membership. Greece could step down to it, for example.

It could be called the EA, European Alliance, and over time we could probably invite/persuade lots of other European countries to join us. France, Holland, Denmark, Italy amongst others are talking about a referendum to exit the EU, we could welcome them to the EA.

What could possibly go wrong.

[SeeFive]

On one of the threads on here, this was suggested as a strategy given that it is clear that we were prevented from negotiating fairly whilst remaining in the EU. Can't remember who suggested it though

And that is exactly why I voted leave. Can't get a result with the EU as-is? Leave and see if there stance changes when losing a major contributor. If it doesn't, no great loss as we would continue to pay and be stitched up for things that we can undoubtedly do better independently IMHO.

Anyway, the downside to this is that if we get the deal we want, then the other members who,are disgruntled will be having referendums to do the same.m the EU will probably collapse in its current version anyway.

[CrutyRammers]

I've been saying this all along. Losing the vote is not the end for our masters, now they will switch to plan b. You can bet your ass that that is not invoking article 50

[Mojooo]

All of the 'top polticians' last night said the result is the will of the people and we will leave categorically - so I don't see a re-run being offered.

[amgmcqueen]

Didn't the ROI have three referendum,s regarding their membership of the EU?

Do you think the EU will be suggesting this for the UK within the next two years?

[williamp]

No U-turn. By October (by Tuesday??) the markets will be back to normal, panic over, and we can have a nice, clean divorce and get on with our lives