Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

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FiF

44,231 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Some of the barbs being thrown on the Twitter sphere are amusing and to the point.

Tim Stanley says "Let's take back control!" From, et, the voters?

Andy Watt: Marching against the democratic decision of the people. How progressive.

And

I accept the democratic decision of the people which is why I'm not marching.

Or Charles Dodgson "No one's denying your right to march, it's your attempt to void a democratic vote that is disgusting"


Fastdruid

8,675 posts

153 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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BlackLabel said:
Why would anyone "Love" the EU? That's like saying "I love the United Kingdom Government", it's rather odd.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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bmw535i said:
Very upbeat article rolleyes

Indie said:
There is only “Brexit”, plus whatever we can recover from the wreckage. Which is whatever the other 27 countries want to give us. We have to hope they think free trade is in their interest, but there is little we can do to stop them picking and choosing what to have free trade in (cars) and what barriers to keep up (financial services).

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Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, whose prediction of lower economic growth next year provoked Boris Johnson at the Chequers Cabinet into saying it was important to be “confident”, according to James Forsyth of The Spectator. “Hammond coldly replied that the Government had to be confident and realistic.”

...

The British people voted for Brexit knowing that there would be an economic price to pay

(did they now? plenty here seem to think we're already in a bed of roses)

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“Brexit means Brexit and we’re not in control of it.”
Uplifting stuff.


anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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///ajd said:
Uplifting stuff.
Absolutelythumbup

Derek Smith

45,800 posts

249 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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///ajd said:
bmw535i said:
Very upbeat article rolleyes

Indie said:
There is only “Brexit”, plus whatever we can recover from the wreckage. Which is whatever the other 27 countries want to give us. We have to hope they think free trade is in their interest, but there is little we can do to stop them picking and choosing what to have free trade in (cars) and what barriers to keep up (financial services).

...

Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, whose prediction of lower economic growth next year provoked Boris Johnson at the Chequers Cabinet into saying it was important to be “confident”, according to James Forsyth of The Spectator. “Hammond coldly replied that the Government had to be confident and realistic.”

...

The British people voted for Brexit knowing that there would be an economic price to pay

(did they now? plenty here seem to think we're already in a bed of roses)

...

“Brexit means Brexit and we’re not in control of it.”
Uplifting stuff.
It says we should hope for whoever we can get from the wreckage. It's realistic. All the rest is spin. Apart from us not being in control. That's just scary.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Derek Smith said:
It says we should hope for whoever we can get from the wreckage. It's realistic. All the rest is spin. Apart from us not being in control. That's just scary.
It's going to be an interesting ride.

It seems Hammond is concerned about the economy and resigned to difficult waters.

The fact that Boris is harping on about being "confident" hints at a big bluff on getting our cake.

I do wonder what will happen to Brits ability to work in the EU once we pull up the drawbridge.

What is going to happen between NI and Eire?








anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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///ajd said:
It's going to be an interesting ride.

It seems Hammond is concerned about the economy and resigned to difficult waters.

The fact that Boris is harping on about being "confident" hints at a big bluff on getting our cake.

I do wonder what will happen to Brits ability to work in the EU once we pull up the drawbridge.

What is going to happen between NI and Eire?
"Hard" border, shooting, death, brimstone, fire.

Or, 'nobody knows yet'.......?

"Interesting" indeed

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Was Bob Geldof out protesting today?



Or perhaps the remainers had to rely on a cross dressing ex-comedian.

You Remoaners really have some superb role models.

Your former Chancellor of the Exchequer was on Strictly Come Dancing earlier.

Your glorious leader, Dave, jumped ship as soon as he heard that you were beaten.

There is one thing that we are in agreement with.

I do think that we should have another referendum.

Many people have seen the benefits that have sprung from the decision to vote Leave.

FTSE250... up
Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down

Now that people can see that all the claims made by Project Fear were lies,
if we have another vote, then it will probably be 80% in favour of "Leave".


So, yes. Let us have a second referendum.

Will you bedwetting Remoaners promise to STFU if you get beaten by 75% next time?

If so, then I will fully support your campaign for a second referendum.


Edited by don4l on Saturday 3rd September 22:40

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Was that Don on the news trying to run off with Izzard's pink beret as a Brexit souvenir ?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Let's see the import figures before we get to excited about the export figures. I think we have about another week to go.

I don't know what they will be, but comparing the two gives an idea of what is actually going on.

Sterling is slowly rising and if it gets back to where it was, will the export figures be as good ?

It's early days.


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Ghibli said:
It's early days.
Try telling that to ajd who is likely to be found with his arms round his knees, rocking back and forth in his lead lined shed whilst surviving on pot noodles whilst waiting for the "complete disaster" we keep hearing about.

I wish the remainers would stop being such a bunch of pussies.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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///ajd said:
bmw535i said:
Very upbeat article rolleyes

Indie said:
There is only “Brexit”, plus whatever we can recover from the wreckage. Which is whatever the other 27 countries want to give us. We have to hope they think free trade is in their interest, but there is little we can do to stop them picking and choosing what to have free trade in (cars) and what barriers to keep up (financial services).

...

Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, whose prediction of lower economic growth next year provoked Boris Johnson at the Chequers Cabinet into saying it was important to be “confident”, according to James Forsyth of The Spectator. “Hammond coldly replied that the Government had to be confident and realistic.”

...

The British people voted for Brexit knowing that there would be an economic price to pay

(did they now? plenty here seem to think we're already in a bed of roses)

...

“Brexit means Brexit and we’re not in control of it.”
Uplifting stuff.
AH yes, the old 'we should stay in the EU because they are a spiteful bunch looking for opportunities to be nasty to us' argument.

Monkeylegend

26,527 posts

232 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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don4l said:
Your former Chancellor of the Exchequer was on Strictly Come Dancing earlier.
Was he, must have missed George, I only saw a Balls up.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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don4l said:
Or perhaps the remainers had to rely on a cross dressing ex-comedian.
You really are quite a nasty person.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Prime Minister Theresa May Rules Out General Election Before 2020
http://news.sky.com/story/pm-rules-out-new-general...

Mrr T

12,332 posts

266 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Sway said:
Jimboka said:
FiF said:
Still clinging on

What's the quote of the day? "I'm not in denial, I'm in refusal."

Sums many of them up.
Still 50/50 I reckon, keep kicking the can down the road, until events change the course.
Not that it's a major concern personally as I'm lucky enough to be able to get EU citizenship via an Irish grandparent I never met.
I'll still be free to flit between insular Britain (or little England when the other parts of current UK have their way) & place in Portugal. Regardless of the outcome of the 'EU nationals stay here if Brits can stay there deal' smile
There is zero chance of EU nationals getting kicked out - UN Treaty of Vienna ensures that... Same for pensioners on the Algarve, or Brit engineers working in Germany.
UK pensioners who have retired in the rEU maybe very worried about the loss of the S1 system.



Edited by Mrr T on Sunday 4th September 09:09

230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Fastdruid said:
Why would anyone "Love" the EU? That's like saying "I love the United Kingdom Government", it's rather odd.
I was pondering on all those "Can't live without EU" posters and came across this: https://politicalviolenceataglance.org/2016/07/05/...

"In the end, the Brexit vote against the EU is really one against multiculturalism, cosmopolitanism, and internationalism." He makes that sound like it's a bad thing smile Post-nationalism has a long and mostly respectable history in this country: Cecil Lewis (WW1 pilot) was advocating "world state, world currency, world language" back in 1936. I'm not convinced that the anger we are still seeing from some Remainers is just about financial services passporting and tariffs. It's more emotional than that. The only thing we know for sure about Brexit is that as soon as the government triggers A50 the post-nationalist vision for the UK is dead. That might make me angry, if I didn't think post-nationalism was a load of old cock.

Strocky

2,658 posts

114 months

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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don4l said:
FTSE250... up
Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down
Where of course don4l forgets is more QE and further reduction in interest rates that were forced on the BOE after the vote.

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