Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[Terminator X]

Jimboka said:

Nothing to back out of. Referendum scraped through, largely based upon self confessed lies which a few million idiots believed. Just tear it up & carry on as before. Except commit more to the EU next time .

Yes idiots all 17m of of them. Racists, xenophobes and bigots too of course.

TX.

[fooby]

Stay in the single market or lose our biggest tradable commodity to the EU... What exactly is the point of leaving again? I really hope the UK comes royally crashing down between now and October. Not a chance we will leave if the big banks actually want to leave London.

Doesn't bother me as much as I have both an English and an Irish passport, but I would feel very sorry for the amount of forward thinking people who are stuck in this mess.

[Tycho]

fooby said:

Stay in the single market or lose our biggest tradable commodity to the EU... What exactly is the point of leaving again? I really hope the UK comes royally crashing down between now and October. Not a chance we will leave if the big banks actually want to leave London.

Nice attitude. Obviously you don't care about self determination and democracy.

[thinkofaname]

You only have to listen to Mervyn King. The idea that the City of London's status as a financial centre is heavily dependent on London being inside the EU is nonsense. It's to do with many other things, which pre-existed the single market and won't be going anywhere soon.

[sealtt]

thinkofaname said:

You only have to listen to Mervyn King. The idea that the City of London's status as a financial centre is heavily dependent on London being inside the EU is nonsense. It's to do with many other things, that pre-existed the single market and won't be going anywhere soon.

If you look at the history of world finance you can see the potential for the City to lose big here should this leave be carried out poorly (i.e. London based banks losing direct access to EU). The City of London will always be a big source of money & jobs for the UK, however it's status as the gateway to Europe is certainly in jeopardy even if it's status as being a key global financial centre is not.

[fooby]

Tycho said:

Nice attitude. Obviously you don't care about self determination and democracy.

51.9% majority and pretty much every promise broken within the day? Yeah okay then. If there was another referendum today, we would remain. No doubt about it.

[Mark Benson]

fooby said:

Tycho said:

Nice attitude. Obviously you don't care about self determination and democracy.

51.9% majority and pretty much every promise broken within the day? Yeah okay then. If there was another referendum today, we would remain. No doubt about it.

What promises were made, and by whom?

[sidicks]

fooby said:

Stay in the single market or lose our biggest tradable commodity to the EU... What exactly is the point of leaving again? I really hope the UK comes royally crashing down between now and October. Not a chance we will leave if the big banks actually want to leave London.

Doesn't bother me as much as I have both an English and an Irish passport, but I would feel very sorry for the amount of forward thinking people who are stuck in this mess.

With an attitude like that it's quite clear we'll be better off without you!

[Crafty_]

Mark Benson said:

What promises were made, and by whom?

£350m a week for the NHS by Farage and Johnson and plastered all over the campaign bus for starters.

[Mark Benson]

Crafty_ said:

Mark Benson said:

What promises were made, and by whom?

£350m a week for the NHS by Farage and Johnson and plastered all over the campaign bus for starters.

And are they in a position to deliver it?

[Zigster]

I think there could be another referendum. Not to annul the recent one but to get people to vote on how they envisage Brexit actually happening - something which should really have been considered in advance of last week's referendum ... . So, a Norway/Switzerland style of "independence" from the EU, completely and utterly adrift from the EU, or something else?

The average Brexiteer won't bother voting because they won't understand the question and will have lost interest anyway because Britain's Got Talent is back on the telly for another season. Instead there will be a more considered debate about the pros and cons and we might still be able to reduce (but not remove) the negative impact of last week's cock-up without the Brexiteers calling foul.

[Crafty_]

Mark Benson said:

And are they in a position to deliver it?

No and never will be. Farage admitted as much.

[andy_s]

Crafty_ said:

Mark Benson said:

And are they in a position to deliver it?

No and never will be. Farage admitted as much.

And it was obvious to anyone with any wit anyway. Does anyone take anything politicians say at face value...?

[Mark Benson]

Crafty_ said:

Mark Benson said:

And are they in a position to deliver it?

No and never will be. Farage admitted as much.

So, less of a promise and more of another pie-in-the-sky claim. Just like all the others.

My point being, anyone claiming 'broken promises' has to have believed the person making it was in a position to deliver.

[Crafty_]

Mark Benson said:

So, less of a promise and more of another pie-in-the-sky claim. Just like all the others.

My point being, anyone claiming 'broken promises' has to have believed the person making it was in a position to deliver.

Funny how you get given an answer and conveniently ignore it.
If you want promises from people who are in a position to deliver then surely you wouldn't have believed anything that anyone had said during the entire campaign ?

Least of all anything that Farage said who refuses to take any responsibility so he can promise what he likesays and never have to deliver.

[Flippin' Kipper]

andy_s said:

And it was obvious to anyone with any wit anyway. Does anyone take anything politicians say at face value...?

Unfortunately I think a great deal of people do take them at face value, especially if the rhetoric is what they want to hear. People in general are easily manipulated.

[Mark Benson]

Crafty_ said:

Mark Benson said:

So, less of a promise and more of another pie-in-the-sky claim. Just like all the others.

My point being, anyone claiming 'broken promises' has to have believed the person making it was in a position to deliver.

Funny how you get given an answer and conveniently ignore it.
If you want promises from people who are in a position to deliver then surely you wouldn't have believed anything that anyone had said during the entire campaign ?

Least of all anything that Farage said who refuses to take any responsibility so he can promise what he likesays and never have to deliver.

My point entirely.

I didn't believe Osborne when he said we'd have to have an emergency budget either.

not sure what I'm supposed to be ignoring, if you believed most of the rot from either side you're a fool.

[Tycho]

fooby said:

Tycho said:

Nice attitude. Obviously you don't care about self determination and democracy.

51.9% majority and pretty much every promise broken within the day? Yeah okay then. If there was another referendum today, we would remain. No doubt about it.

fooby said:

I really hope the UK comes royally crashing down between now and October.

Even if I voted remain, I care about this country more than my own interests and would never throw the toys out of the pram like you have. Sometimes you have to just accept what you think to be a st state of affairs and get on with it.

[Mrr T]

Terminator X said:

Mrr T said:

loafer123 said:

Mrr T said:

I suggest your knowledge of financial services regulations is out of date. You cannot register a company and with a couple of employees its become a regulated entity. Regulators require most sales staff, all key individuals, from senior management to risk and compliance to be based in the country of the regulated entity. Regulator do not like the idea of finding a regulated entity is in breach of regulations and the managers are outside its jursdiction.

My guess is 400/500k jobs moving. Which in my view is a lot.

Given there are only 400k people working in the City of London, I think you are an idiot.

You did read I said financial services and not the City of London. There are about 2m people in the UK who work in financial services.

My estimate is about 25% of the job will be lost if we lose financial services passporting.

Which suggests I may not be an idiot but you do seem to have some of the attributes.

Where did this "estimate" come from or are you just pulling %ages out of your arse?

TX.

Its an estimate and in my view quite a conservative one. There are about 2m financial services jobs in the UK. I would suggest 50% will be only be involved in domestic services so that about 1m who will be involved in servicing EU customers. Now the UK is about 20% of the EU GDP. I would regard GDP as a good measure of demand for financial services. So I could say 80% of 1m jobs would be lost. I think that's to high so have said 40% to 50% of 1m jobs.

[Crafty_]

Mark Benson said:

My point entirely.

I didn't believe Osborne when he said we'd have to have an emergency budget either.

not sure what I'm supposed to be ignoring, if you believed most of the rot from either side you're a fool.

The point is those fools exist and believed the £350m thing and voted accordingly. Sad but true.