Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
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el stovey said:
Do I know you?
There are some people on this thread who are clearly a bit thick but have voted and spout a load of misinformed rubbish. Is their view on the referendum somehow more valuable than someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote?
No, you do not know me.There are some people on this thread who are clearly a bit thick but have voted and spout a load of misinformed rubbish. Is their view on the referendum somehow more valuable than someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote?
Edited by el stovey on Saturday 24th September 11:38
You are correct, like "someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote" ...yep, thick
All that jazz said:
el stovey said:
All that jazz said:
bmw535i said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Got it.
I can have an opinion but must keep it to myself because I didn't vote.
Do you understand the meaning of censorship?
Why didn't you vote?I can have an opinion but must keep it to myself because I didn't vote.
Do you understand the meaning of censorship?
That's not directed at you specifically but anyone who didn't vote that's now crying about the result.
I'd much rather listen to some switched on person who didn't vote than some thicko who did vote. Regardless of what their preference was. Perhaps that's just me.
Stickyfinger said:
el stovey said:
Do I know you?
There are some people on this thread who are clearly a bit thick but have voted and spout a load of misinformed rubbish. Is their view on the referendum somehow more valuable than someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote?
No, you do not know me.There are some people on this thread who are clearly a bit thick but have voted and spout a load of misinformed rubbish. Is their view on the referendum somehow more valuable than someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote?
Edited by el stovey on Saturday 24th September 11:38
You are correct, like "someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote" ...yep, thick
el stovey said:
There are some people on this thread who are clearly a bit thick but have voted and spout a load of misinformed rubbish. Is their view on the referendum somehow more valuable than someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote?
Presumably all those "insightful and intelligent" people that decided not to vote are completely happy with the result then?Oh wait...
All that jazz said:
el stovey said:
There are some people on this thread who are clearly a bit thick but have voted and spout a load of misinformed rubbish. Is their view on the referendum somehow more valuable than someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote?
Presumably all those "insightful and intelligent" people that decided not to vote are completely happy with the result then?Oh wait...
All that jazz said:
Presumably all those "insightful and intelligent" people that decided not to vote are completely happy with the result then?
Oh wait...
Those who do not vote are deemed to accept the result of the democratic process.Oh wait...
What unfolds over the next few years is going to affect us all so everyone, regardless of how they voted or not, has a right to an opinion on how we proceed, to voice that opinion, and hopefully have that opinion heard by the Government.
el stovey said:
All that jazz said:
el stovey said:
There are some people on this thread who are clearly a bit thick but have voted and spout a load of misinformed rubbish. Is their view on the referendum somehow more valuable than someone with a bit of insight and intelligence who decided not to vote?
Presumably all those "insightful and intelligent" people that decided not to vote are completely happy with the result then?Oh wait...
Derek Smith said:
I will suggest that those who did vote leave who discover that brexit doesn't mean what they voted for have also got the right to complain.
Same message rehashed yet again, it gets more desperate each time I read it.Two questions:
Do you want to remain in the European Union. (No caveats/clauses/T&C's/consequences specified)
Do you want to leave the European Union.(No caveats/clauses/T&C's/consequences specified)
The majority (there were no specified margins to determine what a majority was) voted to leave in a democratic process.
Cameron stated in the 2015 Conservative manifesto that regardless of the result of the referendum the result would be honoured.
The UK is and will leave the EU, T's & Cs pending.
Democracy is not/should not be carrying on until you get what you want, despite the remainers persistence or the EU's bullying tactics.
All that jazz said:
Why should they be discussing it when they clearly weren't bothered one way or the other prior to the referendum? Makes no sense and stinks of hypocrisy. Also PurpleMoonlight has made countless cheap shots at the Brexit voters in this thread over the past 3 months so it's clear which side he is on, yet couldn't be bothered to get up off his fat arse and put an X in the box when it actually mattered. Anyone that didn't bother to vote should not be allowed to participate in this or any referendum threads.
How do we know if you voted ?Maybe purple moonlight was on holiday or he might not of had the right to vote? He could be German for all we know.
I'd doesn't bother me in the slightest because it's a motoring forum.
All that jazz said:
Why should they be discussing it when they clearly weren't bothered one way or the other prior to the referendum? Makes no sense and stinks of hypocrisy. Also PurpleMoonlight has made countless cheap shots at the Brexit voters in this thread over the past 3 months so it's clear which side he is on, yet couldn't be bothered to get up off his fat arse and put an X in the box when it actually mattered. Anyone that didn't bother to vote should not be allowed to participate in this or any referendum threads.
Perhaps you could get the mods to add a little star next to their username so you can ignore them when they post. A six pointed star should do the trick.
Ghibli said:
Maybe purple moonlight was on holiday
Tough st. Not like the referendum was sprung on us at the last minute was it?Ghibli said:
or he might not of had the right to vote?
Tough st. Has no right to post his objections on the result in this thread then.Ghibli said:
He could be German for all we know.
Ditto above.///ajd said:
Perhaps you could get the mods to add a little star next to their username so you can ignore them when they post.
A six pointed star should do the trick.
You can't resist it can you.A six pointed star should do the trick.
You'll deny it as you always do,but it doesn't take much for the true you to be revealed, your 'subtlety' was exposed quite some time ago.
don'tbesilly said:
Same message rehashed yet again, it gets more desperate each time I read it.
Two questions:
Do you want to remain in the European Union. (No caveats/clauses/T&C's/consequences specified)
Do you want to leave the European Union.(No caveats/clauses/T&C's/consequences specified)
Clever of you to hit the problem with the vote on the head: it was very basic, or as you put it 'no consequences specified. In other words, no one knows what leaving means. Two questions:
Do you want to remain in the European Union. (No caveats/clauses/T&C's/consequences specified)
Do you want to leave the European Union.(No caveats/clauses/T&C's/consequences specified)
What the government comes away from the negotiations with an option and the house votes for will be specific. The devil is in the detail as always. These specifics are unlikely to satisfy every leave voter.
Thanks for putting my point so precisely.
I not sure how the same message, whatever you interpreted it as, can be more desperate.
However, I assume, as you cut out the main body of my post, that you agree with what I said.
All that jazz said:
Ghibli said:
Maybe purple moonlight was on holiday
Tough st. Not like the referendum was sprung on us at the last minute was it?Ghibli said:
or he might not of had the right to vote?
Tough st. Has no right to post his objections on the result in this thread then.Ghibli said:
He could be German for all we know.
Ditto above.Derek Smith said:
Clever of you to hit the problem with the vote on the head: it was very basic, or as you put it 'no consequences specified. In other words, no one knows what leaving means.
What the government comes away from the negotiations with an option and the house votes for will be specific. The devil is in the detail as always. These specifics are unlikely to satisfy every leave voter.
But we have to either leave or remain, there is no third choice.What the government comes away from the negotiations with an option and the house votes for will be specific. The devil is in the detail as always. These specifics are unlikely to satisfy every leave voter.
Is there a way of remaining that would satisfy every remain voter? The ones that wanted to stay as we were, the ones that wanted to negotiate a better deal, the ones that want the UK in Euro or a European superstate?
PurpleMoonlight said:
Those who do not vote are deemed to accept the result of the democratic process.
What unfolds over the next few years is going to affect us all so everyone, regardless of how they voted or not, has a right to an opinion on how we proceed, to voice that opinion, and hopefully have that opinion heard by the Government.
How does the Government hear your opinion if you exclude yourself from a voting process? Isn't that exactly the point of a voting process? To define the general consensus of opinion? What unfolds over the next few years is going to affect us all so everyone, regardless of how they voted or not, has a right to an opinion on how we proceed, to voice that opinion, and hopefully have that opinion heard by the Government.
I agree that you are perfectly entitled to engage in debates and voice your thoughts in Forums and elsewhere but if you don't express your views when it comes time to vote then you are informing the Government that you don't mind either way as to the result and way forward.
Wouldn't it have been grand if more people who felt strongly about remaining in the EU had actually voted? There was certainly enough people who didn't vote who, if many more had, could have steered a result more decisively in one direction or another instead of the close affair we have now that is causing so much ire in many.
While many made educated choices, many also made protest votes which was stupid. One really has to hope that the protest voters and those who made ill-advised (lied to and believed it) or uneducated votes were outnumbered significantly by those who expressed a reasoned choice; rightly or wrongly.
If more people who educated themselves regarding the EU and its effects positive and negative had voted we may have had a clearer picture of what the general population really wanted.
I'm still pro-EU and have read and heard nothing to change my opinion on that and firmly believe the impact will be ultimately more negative than positive in the next couple of years. The Band-Aid measures keeping the economy from showing more severe stress fractures than are present will only last so long methinks....I can see people blaming the Government for not delivering the Brexit most of its voters wanted. But if that happens it will serve only to prove that the Remain campaign's warnings were correct: a better deal than we already have is not achievable - warts and all!
PurpleMoonlight said:
All that jazz said:
Ghibli said:
Maybe purple moonlight was on holiday
Tough st. Not like the referendum was sprung on us at the last minute was it?Ghibli said:
or he might not of had the right to vote?
Tough st. Has no right to post his objections on the result in this thread then.Ghibli said:
He could be German for all we know.
Ditto above.Which part of the above do you disagree with that in your eyes makes me a bigot? In fact I'm struggling to see how we've gone from saying tough titties to someone ineligible to vote or was on holiday at the time, to being a bigot. Why don't you call me a WAAAAAAACIST and xenophone too as that's usually the grand sum of all arguments from the Bitter Remainers.
All that jazz said:
Has no right to post his objections on the result in this thread then.
Lols. Buy the site from PH, change the posting rules, and you get your way. Until then, suck it up and smile as you do like a good boy. Your notions of what a democracy means are ... odd. Perhaps it's not something for you.
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