Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[PurpleMoonlight]

Why not debate the issue rather than posting silly gifs.

[All that jazz]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Why not debate the issue rather than posting silly gifs.

READ THE fkING NEW ARTICLES !!!!! It's ALL THERE IN THEM telling you exactly what the plan is and answers all your questions. Why the fk do you expect randoms on the internet to spoon feed the SAME information to you. Do you own fking research if the topic is so important to you and I have no idea why you're spending all your life banging on about it considering that you couldn't be arsed to vote and claim to not give a flying fk whether the UK leaves or remains ! Sheesh... Seriously, are you 2 years old or something?

[PurpleMoonlight]

Jimboka said:

Looking forward to the referendum on the 'deal' Brexit liars such as Johnson etc are actually able to negotiate.
I suspect it will fall a million miles short of their pre referendum pledges, most of which have already been confessed as lies of course.

I seriously doubt there will be any referendum on the deal.

All the Government could say is 'this is was we have negotiated, do we accept or keep negotiating'?

But, the EU might be unwilling to negotiate more or permit more time to do so if the 2 years is up so it would be a complete waste of time and money.

[Funkycoldribena]

Jimboka said:

Looking forward to the referendum on the 'deal' Brexit liars such as Johnson etc are actually able to negotiate.
I suspect it will fall a million miles short of their pre referendum pledges, most of which have already been confessed as lies of course.

Zzz..same old...

[PurpleMoonlight]

All that jazz said:

READ THE fkING NEW ARTICLES !!!!! It's ALL THERE IN THEM telling you exactly what the plan is and answers all your questions.

Firstly, it isn't in the press.

Secondly, I was asking you what you wanted.

Thirdly, chill.

[anonymous-user]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Then why not make a comment we can all debate with you?

What do you want leave to be?

Edited by PurpleMoonlight on Saturday 24th September 14:07

Why didn't you vote? Not eligible?

[B'stard Child]

Jimboka said:

Looking forward to the referendum on the 'deal' Brexit liars such as Johnson etc are actually able to negotiate.
I suspect it will fall a million miles short of their pre referendum pledges, most of which have already been confessed as lies of course.

And of course to provide some balance the remain lies/promises have been shown so far to be just a smidge wide of the mark.

Unless you want to use that line "because we haven't left yet"

BTW - I thought both leave and remain had lousy campaigns - neither covered themselves in glory. But it seems when picking on things to discuss you want to focus on what the other side suggested.

[PurpleMoonlight]

bmw535i said:

Why didn't you vote? Not eligible?

I answered this yesterday.

I don't care much either way. I will get on with my life and deal with the consequences.

I have never voted in any election either actually.

[anonymous-user]

PurpleMoonlight said:

I answered this yesterday.

I don't care much either way. I will get on with my life and deal with the consequences.

I have never voted in any election either actually.

Good.

[anonymous-user]

All that jazz said:

Greg66 said:

Greg66 said:

All that jazz said:

I think you need to learn how to read, chap. Perhaps this thread is not something for you.

Hey - that's really good. ISWYDT. You took my last sentence and turned it back on me! Like you're showing me that you;'ve got the upper hand! That's so smart! You need to show other people this "technique" because it's so smart, and makes you look so clever! Then they can look smart and clever too!

Now, back to the point. Where did I mis-read?

When you're ready.

There is nothing to discuss. You're the one that doesn't agree with me but I can't defend my point of view know what a democracy is, not me, hence time for me to be quiet your comment was nonsense.

FTFY. You're welcome.

[anonymous-user]

All that jazz said:

There is nothing to debate. The Brexiter's wanted out of the EU and that's exactly what the PM is putting in motion. Why do you and others persist in trying to keep a dead thread alive asking the same silly pointless questions over and over again? Do you not bother to read news articles and watch the PM on TV? You really should then this thread could be left to die and you wouldn't need to keep spamming it with your nonsense.

If you think the thread is dead then stop posting on it.

This thread is clearly for people that want to discus the possibility of it not happening. The clue is in the title.

You sound just like you don't want people to talk about it? Why not avoid the thread? Coming on here and telling people not to discuss the title of the thread and telling us what we should be allowed to talk about and who should be allowed to discus it, makes you sound a bit unhinged.

If there was a thread about something I didn't want to talk about, I'd not post in it.

[All that jazz]

el stovey said:

All that jazz said:

There is nothing to debate. The Brexiter's wanted out of the EU and that's exactly what the PM is putting in motion. Why do you and others persist in trying to keep a dead thread alive asking the same silly pointless questions over and over again? Do you not bother to read news articles and watch the PM on TV? You really should then this thread could be left to die and you wouldn't need to keep spamming it with your nonsense.

If you think the thread is dead then stop posting on it.

This thread is clearly for people that want to discus the possibility of it not happening. The clue is in the title.

You sound just like you don't want people to talk about it? Why not avoid the thread? Coming on here and telling people not to discuss the title of the thread and telling us what we should be allowed to talk about and who should be allowed to discus it, makes you sound a bit unhinged.

If there was a thread about something I didn't want to talk about, I'd not post in it.

I'm quite happy to talk about the UK leaving the EU. Unfortunately it is continually derailed by Bitter Remainers such as yourself not wishing to discuss the UK leaving the EU but instead wanting to reverse the result and come up with crazy ideas to try and keep us in which, despite the PM herself categorically stating that will never happen, is repeated ignored by the Bitter Remainers hence why people are getting pissed off.

[scenario8]

This thread is about all manner of subjects within the context of Britain and its relationship with the EU. The topic is enormous. This thread itself is over 300 pages long. No one person controls the terms of reference of this thread. Contrary to some ridiculous recent postings there is plenty to debate and discuss.

Ignoring the thread, elements within it or even specific posters remains an option open to all.

[///ajd]

Brexiteer or Remainer said:

READ THE fkING NEW ARTICLES !!!!! It's ALL THERE IN THEM telling you exactly what the plan is and answers all your questions. Why the fk do you expect randoms on the internet to spoon feed the SAME information to you. Do you own fking research if the topic is so important to you and I have no idea why you're spending all your life banging on about it considering that you couldn't be arsed to vote and claim to not give a flying fk whether the UK leaves or remains ! Sheesh... Seriously, are you 2 years old or something?

Is it obvious which?

[turbobloke]

From a link in another thread:

'Estimates of possible City job losses from a “hard Brexit” have ranged widely from 40,000 to 80,000 over the next decade, with JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley saying they could shift over 1,000 employees. Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America have also warned of jobs losses to the Continent.'

This suggestion for the next decade wasn't meant to be a threat to Theresa May, it's FYI. Also as an FYI the City lost over 100,000 jobs in the finance sector in a couple of years or so after the GFC...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/nov/06/c...

...and recovered quickly...

http://www.cityam.com/1413779482/exclusive-city-ba...

[///ajd]

turbobloke said:

From a link in another thread:

'Estimates of possible City job losses from a “hard Brexit” have ranged widely from 40,000 to 80,000 over the next decade, with JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley saying they could shift over 1,000 employees. Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America have also warned of jobs losses to the Continent.'

This suggestion for the next decade wasn't meant to be a threat to Theresa May, it's FYI. Also as an FYI the City lost over 100,000 jobs in the finance sector in a couple of years or so after the GFC...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/nov/06/c...

...and recovered quickly...

http://www.cityam.com/1413779482/exclusive-city-ba...

But that was due to a slump, the recovery was due to demand and business returning.

If they go to stay in the EU/Single Market and avoid hard brexit, they won't be coming back, will they?

It could create a domino effect and the creation of a new financial capital of the EU. The French and Germans would love it - the main fight would be which nation would get the crown.

[turbobloke]

///ajd said:

turbobloke said:

From a link in another thread:

'Estimates of possible City job losses from a “hard Brexit” have ranged widely from 40,000 to 80,000 over the next decade, with JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley saying they could shift over 1,000 employees. Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America have also warned of jobs losses to the Continent.'

This suggestion for the next decade wasn't meant to be a threat to Theresa May, it's FYI. Also as an FYI the City lost over 100,000 jobs in the finance sector in a couple of years or so after the GFC...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/nov/06/c...

...and recovered quickly...

http://www.cityam.com/1413779482/exclusive-city-ba...

But that was due to a slump, the recovery was due to demand and business returning.

In other words, not much difference. You may have missed this earlier.

*ONS report that there has been no post-referendum economic shock (comments which make a mockery of George Osborne and Project Fear)
*ONS also note that house prices ‘continue to grow strongly’, while the manufacturing and construction sectors are on the same paths as before the Brexit vote
*Bank of England admit that business sentiment has improved
*OECD forced to raise its growth forecasts for the UK economy
*UBS, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan also raise their forecasts for the UK
*A separate ONS report shows the deficit fell in August thanks in part to a surge in income tax and corporation tax receipts

Recovering from a bout of unjustified negative sentiment after the baseless dreck peddled by Project Fear.

The evidence points to the City continuing to be the powerhouse it is now. Project Fear is dead.

[London424]

///ajd said:

turbobloke said:

From a link in another thread:

'Estimates of possible City job losses from a “hard Brexit” have ranged widely from 40,000 to 80,000 over the next decade, with JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley saying they could shift over 1,000 employees. Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America have also warned of jobs losses to the Continent.'

This suggestion for the next decade wasn't meant to be a threat to Theresa May, it's FYI. Also as an FYI the City lost over 100,000 jobs in the finance sector in a couple of years or so after the GFC...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/nov/06/c...

...and recovered quickly...

http://www.cityam.com/1413779482/exclusive-city-ba...

But that was due to a slump, the recovery was due to demand and business returning.

If they go to stay in the EU/Single Market and avoid hard brexit, they won't be coming back, will they?

It could create a domino effect and the creation of a new financial capital of the EU. The French and Germans would love it - the main fight would be which nation would get the crown.

In an industry that regularly hires and fires tens of thousands you think they're going to employ them in France?!

[anonymous-user]

turbobloke said:

///ajd said:

turbobloke said:

From a link in another thread:

'Estimates of possible City job losses from a “hard Brexit” have ranged widely from 40,000 to 80,000 over the next decade, with JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley saying they could shift over 1,000 employees. Citigroup, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America have also warned of jobs losses to the Continent.'

This suggestion for the next decade wasn't meant to be a threat to Theresa May, it's FYI. Also as an FYI the City lost over 100,000 jobs in the finance sector in a couple of years or so after the GFC...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/nov/06/c...

...and recovered quickly...

http://www.cityam.com/1413779482/exclusive-city-ba...

But that was due to a slump, the recovery was due to demand and business returning.

In other words, not much difference. You may have missed this earlier.

*ONS report that there has been no post-referendum economic shock (comments which make a mockery of George Osborne and Project Fear)
*ONS also note that house prices ‘continue to grow strongly’, while the manufacturing and construction sectors are on the same paths as before the Brexit vote
*Bank of England admit that business sentiment has improved
*OECD forced to raise its growth forecasts for the UK economy
*UBS, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan also raise their forecasts for the UK
*A separate ONS report shows the deficit fell in August thanks in part to a surge in income tax and corporation tax receipts

Recovering from a bout of unjustified negative sentiment after the baseless dreck peddled by Project Fear.

The evidence points to the City continuing to be the powerhouse it is now. Project Fear is dead.

^ classic apples and Tuesdays comparison with added selective quoting. Carry on, Colonel.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 24th September 19:08

[///ajd]

turbobloke said:

In other words, not much difference. You may have missed this earlier.

*ONS report that there has been no post-referendum economic shock (comments which make a mockery of George Osborne and Project Fear)
*ONS also note that house prices ‘continue to grow strongly’, while the manufacturing and construction sectors are on the same paths as before the Brexit vote
*Bank of England admit that business sentiment has improved
*OECD forced to raise its growth forecasts for the UK economy
*UBS, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan also raise their forecasts for the UK
*A separate ONS report shows the deficit fell in August thanks in part to a surge in income tax and corporation tax receipts

Recovering from a bout of unjustified negative sentiment after the baseless dreck peddled by Project Fear.

The evidence points to the City continuing to be the powerhouse it is now. Project Fear is dead.

I saw the ONS reports, this is a newer story related to the US banks threatening to move if they don't have brexit clarity - and the possible shift of 80,000 jobs.

This wouldn't be a short term dip - if they move all the jobs, they won't come back.

Unless you think the US banks are just bluffing. Maybe they are. I guess we'll find out if the uncertainty drifts towards 2017, as it appears to be at the moment.

If some can't get assurances that a hard brexit with loss of passporting will be avoided, some may not wait to be disappointed with that as an outcome.

That said, the people I know in the city really don't fancy moving to Frankfurt or Paris. I wonder if they stay put even if their 6+ figure salaries go to the EU with or without them.