Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[turbobloke]

SilverSixer said:

Trade may well not have been the basis for Leave voters but it's bloody well going to be the second victim. The first victim, the truth, has long since been pushing up daisies.

Alongside the Westminster careers of Cameron and Osborne - two of the main sources of disinformation in support of Remain, helpfully boosting the Leave vote.

There are some great opportunities for trade opening up, nearly 30 nations have made advances to the UK since the referendum, including 8 of the top 10 global economies.

We can look forward to filing trade as a victim alongside these supposedly immediate victims: spending (cuts) and tax (hikes) in an emergency budget; the end of western political civilisation; house price falls; more expensive mortgages; large petrol price hikes; OECD dire state-of-the-ecomomy predictions.

All of that was complete pie in the sky.

[PurpleMoonlight]

don4l said:

The stock markets disagree with you.

Just like 17M disagreed with you on June 23rd.

Could I ask a simple question?


What do you think you will achieve by all this pointless whinging?

We haven't left yet, lets wait and see what the markets look like in the summer of 2019. Until then it's speculation not whinging.

[turbobloke]

PurpleMoonlight said:

don4l said:

The stock markets disagree with you.

Just like 17M disagreed with you on June 23rd.

Could I ask a simple question?


What do you think you will achieve by all this pointless whinging?

We haven't left yet, lets wait and see what the markets look like in the summer of 2019. Until then it's speculation not whinging.

That depends on the turn of phrase used.

There's plenty of sulky Remain-ness still around.

[PurpleMoonlight]

turbobloke said:

There are some great opportunities for trade opening up, nearly 30 nations have made advances to the UK since the referendum, including 8 of the top 10 global economies.

Are these countries we currently don't trade with?

[SilverSixer]

turbobloke said:

SilverSixer said:

Trade may well not have been the basis for Leave voters but it's bloody well going to be the second victim. The first victim, the truth, has long since been pushing up daisies.

Alongside the Westminster careers of Cameron and Osborne - two of the main sources of disinformation in support of Remain, helpfully boosting the Leave vote.

There are some great opportunities for trade opening up, nearly 30 nations have made advances to the UK since the referendum, including 8 of the top 10 global economies.

We can look forward to filing trade as a victim alongside these supposedly immediate victims: spending (cuts) and tax (hikes) in an emergency budget; the end of western political civilisation; house price falls; more expensive mortgages; large petrol price hikes; OECD dire state-of-the-ecomomy predictions.

All of that was complete pie in the sky.

Been to a petrol station lately? Going up every day. The rest (except the end of western civilisation, I'll grant you that one was a bit daft)? All in good time. Just wait for the full effects of the weak pound - something which is actually beneficial to me in some ways as I own a couple of foreign properties valued in Euros. I'm gonna try to flog one whilst the exchange rate is good. Overall though, it will be a inflationary trigger and we'll all pay in the long run.

[FiF]

turbobloke said:

SilverSixer said:

Trade may well not have been the basis for Leave voters but it's bloody well going to be the second victim. The first victim, the truth, has long since been pushing up daisies.

Alongside the Westminster careers of Cameron and Osborne - two of the main sources of disinformation in support of Remain, helpfully boosting the Leave vote.

There are some great opportunities for trade opening up, nearly 30 nations have made advances to the UK since the referendum, including 8 of the top 10 global economies.

We can look forward to filing trade as a victim alongside these supposedly immediate victims: spending (cuts) and tax (hikes) in an emergency budget; the end of western political civilisation; house price falls; more expensive mortgages; large petrol price hikes; OECD dire state-of-the-ecomomy predictions.

Actually there's another victim, the Chancellor Hammond has already ditched that Treasury report, and Juncker is facing a vote of no confidence.

[PurpleMoonlight]

turbobloke said:

That depends on the turn of phrase used.

There's plenty of sulky Remain-ness still around.

Is negative speculation to be banned in the brave new world?

[turbobloke]

SilverSixer said:

turbobloke said:

All of that was complete pie in the sky.

Been to a petrol station lately? Going up every day.

The doom forecast was for an immediate large hike, it didn't happen.

SilverSixer said:

All in good time.

Sounds like Brexit

FiF said:

Actually there's another victim, the Chancellor Hammond has already ditched that Treasury report, and Juncker is facing a vote of no confidence.

Good news on Juncker as we head towards the weekend, even though it's only at the skirmish stage.

[SilverSixer]

FiF said:

turbobloke said:

SilverSixer said:

Trade may well not have been the basis for Leave voters but it's bloody well going to be the second victim. The first victim, the truth, has long since been pushing up daisies.

Alongside the Westminster careers of Cameron and Osborne - two of the main sources of disinformation in support of Remain, helpfully boosting the Leave vote.

There are some great opportunities for trade opening up, nearly 30 nations have made advances to the UK since the referendum, including 8 of the top 10 global economies.

We can look forward to filing trade as a victim alongside these supposedly immediate victims: spending (cuts) and tax (hikes) in an emergency budget; the end of western political civilisation; house price falls; more expensive mortgages; large petrol price hikes; OECD dire state-of-the-ecomomy predictions.

Actually there's another victim, the Chancellor Hammond has already ditched that Treasury report, and Juncker is facing a vote of no confidence.

We all know the immediate impacts were staved off by the swift actions of the independent BoE. Not sure they'll be able to keep doing that in the long run. We're going down the pan.

[turbobloke]

SilverSixer said:

We're going down the pan.

Talking of going down (not a Tulisa reference):

[SilverSixer]

That cartoon actually sickens and disgusts me. Revolting.

[don4l]

SilverSixer said:

We all know the immediate impacts were staved off by the swift actions of the independent BoE. Not sure they'll be able to keep doing that in the long run. We're going down the pan.

You are having a laugh.

Carney tried to talk us into a recession, and rather stupidly cut interest rates. They will be back up before the end of the year.

Fortunately the markets quickly figured ouut that he was spouting ill-informed drivel, and decided to ignore him.

He has lost all credibility, and he should go as soon ass possible.

[don4l]

SilverSixer said:

That cartoon actually sickens and disgusts me. Revolting.

They say that the truth hurts.


At least it isn't causing you to wet the bed!

[PurpleMoonlight]

don4l said:

SilverSixer said:

That cartoon actually sickens and disgusts me. Revolting.

They say that the truth hurts.

It's racist, xenophobic and quite frankly offensive.

[SilverSixer]

Christ, haven't we done bed wetting to death? What are you trying to achieve with those comments?

You wouldn't recognise the truth if it painted itself pink and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing "subtle truths are here again". (credit: Blackadder)

[Hosenbugler]

turbobloke said:

SilverSixer said:

We're going down the pan.

Talking of going down (not a Tulisa reference):

Pretty much nail on head.

[confused_buyer]

SilverSixer said:

Been to a petrol station lately? Going up every day. The rest (except the end of western civilisation, I'll grant you that one was a bit daft)? All in good time. Just wait for the full effects of the weak pound - something which is actually beneficial to me in some ways as I own a couple of foreign properties valued in Euros. I'm gonna try to flog one whilst the exchange rate is good. Overall though, it will be a inflationary trigger and we'll all pay in the long run.

The weak pound is not without benefits and downsides. The truth is we have been running an unsustainable trade deficit for years. It is now, what, 5, 6%? That is bonkers. However painful it might be we need to import less and export more. A weaker pound is not a panacea some say it is in that respect but I'm fairly convinced it's value was going to tank at some point Brexit or not.

If your currency is going to tank and maybe help reduce a trade deficit, with inflation at basically nil, now was actually quite a good time to choose to do it.

If that means some won't be able to buy an iPhone 7 or have to do a few miles less per week than, whilst painful for them, it is probably not a disaster in the long run.

[alfie2244]

PurpleMoonlight said:

It's racist, xenophobic and quite frankly offensive.

Seriously?

The Walloonians are firing a few broadsides into the sinking ship as well by the looks of things. (Bulgarians & Romanians might fancy a pop as well)

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/eu-summit-bulgari...

[B'stard Child]

PurpleMoonlight said:

SilverSixer said:

That cartoon actually sickens and disgusts me. Revolting.

It's racist, xenophobic and quite frankly offensive.

Must be just me then - I thought it was funny

[911gary]

simes43 said:

Spot on. When you add the apocalyptic collective's official chants and the completely understandable fear of the unknown that was felt by so many, I am still surprised that Remain didn't shade it.

I went to bed thinking we had lost,couldn't sleep was up at 3AM watched it turning looked at the votes to come in and worked out we may well win,I dont know why but I shed a tear of joy and relief which I didnt plan for or expect to do,it was a gut feeling all about England and our independence a thing many have voted for against the colonialist UK the irony was lost at that point,I really feel we will be better off out if it takes a while costs me a few quid I can live with that,in my view we will look back and see what a great game changer it was (I hope) looking at the prices of stuff now I think the EU are and will be in a world of pain,voting against largess,and federalisim which is burgeoning out of control,the media lies,project fear still ongoing IMHO all make me feel its good,these feelings without even getting started on the immigrant crisis engulfing them.