Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
Discussion
bmw535i said:
///ajd said:
What happened?
He's flouncing out because he's been outed as a hypocrite. Lots of the evidence has been removed.You sound bereft? I guess you'll have to try and ally yourself with SS or somebody - that's if he's finished his vomiting yet.
cirian75 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37719170
"Robert Courts won by 5,702 votes, with the party's vote share falling from 60% in 2015 to 45%, as the Lib Dems surged past Labour into second."
Right wing press will say "comfortably won with a good majority"
the left wing press will be "Tories in panic and disarray"
More sober observers have commented that the margin of victory is not dissimilar to that gained by CMD the first time he stood for election there."Robert Courts won by 5,702 votes, with the party's vote share falling from 60% in 2015 to 45%, as the Lib Dems surged past Labour into second."
Right wing press will say "comfortably won with a good majority"
the left wing press will be "Tories in panic and disarray"
don'tbesilly said:
SilverSixer said:
I own a couple of foreign properties valued in Euros. I'm gonna try to flog one whilst the exchange rate is good. Overall though, it will be a inflationary trigger and we'll all pay in the long run.
You were only complaining the other day about struggling with school fees,affording the mortgage and having to make jam!
SilverSixer! Billy Bulls
tter more like 
Neither of these things make me Rockefeller, nor do they make me profligate either, so whichever one of those you're going to try to accuse me of to suit your argument, it doesn't wash.
Happy?
And, just in case you hadn't worked it out, I was trying to say the the brexit vote may actually end up benefitting me financially (if I keep my job), but I am still against it.
Edited by SilverSixer on Friday 21st October 10:36
barryrs said:
don'tbesilly said:
SilverSixer said:
I own a couple of foreign properties valued in Euros. I'm gonna try to flog one whilst the exchange rate is good. Overall though, it will be a inflationary trigger and we'll all pay in the long run.
You were only complaining the other day about struggling with school fees,affording the mortgage and having to make jam!
SilverSixer! Billy Bulls
tter more like PurpleMoonlight said:
The problem is as he sees it not I see it.
He thinks uncontrolled immigration has lead to limiting wage growth, yet he actively employs an immigrant at a lower wage to a UK worker. Seems somewhat hypocritical to me.
Sorry you failed to understand the point of my post to don4l and jumped in with an insult, but hey .......
As always, you are happy to misrepresent the situation.He thinks uncontrolled immigration has lead to limiting wage growth, yet he actively employs an immigrant at a lower wage to a UK worker. Seems somewhat hypocritical to me.
Sorry you failed to understand the point of my post to don4l and jumped in with an insult, but hey .......
A few years ago, we got a card through the letterbox advertising gardening services. Due to back problems, I was finding it difficult to cut the grass. So we replied to the ad.
At the time, I had no idea how much my neighbours were paying. I just happened to hire the first one who made themselves known to me.
You really are doing a great job of demonstrating your moral superiority.
In the last 24 hours you have called me a racist.
You have said that I am xenophobic.
Now, you are calling me a hypocrite.
I'm quite proud of the fact that I am not as morally superior as you are.
You appear to be filled with hatred.
hidetheelephants said:
cirian75 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37719170
"Robert Courts won by 5,702 votes, with the party's vote share falling from 60% in 2015 to 45%, as the Lib Dems surged past Labour into second."
Right wing press will say "comfortably won with a good majority"
the left wing press will be "Tories in panic and disarray"
More sober observers have commented that the margin of victory is not dissimilar to that gained by CMD the first time he stood for election there."Robert Courts won by 5,702 votes, with the party's vote share falling from 60% in 2015 to 45%, as the Lib Dems surged past Labour into second."
Right wing press will say "comfortably won with a good majority"
the left wing press will be "Tories in panic and disarray"
Good news for the Lib Dems though, since it looks like they may be the beneficiaries of Tory antipathy in the next GE rather than Labour.
Jockman said:
Coalition Govt here we come.
Good. The 2010-15 government was the best one in my lifetime. Despite all the Con/Lab squealing about stability and torpor in coalitions, the Tory/LibDem one proved how it can work. Far better than each of the Chuckle Brothers having it all their own way every 10 years or so. It balances things out and acts against the extremes.Calling a coalition for the 2020 result may well be a case of premature adjudication as already pointed out.
The Witney seat isn't just MP fodder with a retiring PM/MP who screwed up royally and quit with his tail between his legs. His loyal Chancellor was sacked.
During the last days of the campaigning in Witney, Ipsos MORI published a national poll with CON 47%(+7), LAB 29%(-5), LDEM 7%(+1)and UKIP 6%(-3).
Nationally it's +1, whoopeedoo for Farron.
That 18 percentage point Conservative lead is the highest in any poll since 2009, and the highest lead for a Party in government since 2002.
The Witney seat isn't just MP fodder with a retiring PM/MP who screwed up royally and quit with his tail between his legs. His loyal Chancellor was sacked.
During the last days of the campaigning in Witney, Ipsos MORI published a national poll with CON 47%(+7), LAB 29%(-5), LDEM 7%(+1)and UKIP 6%(-3).
Nationally it's +1, whoopeedoo for Farron.
That 18 percentage point Conservative lead is the highest in any poll since 2009, and the highest lead for a Party in government since 2002.
Jockman said:
davepoth said:
Good news for the Lib Dems though, since it looks like they may be the beneficiaries of Tory antipathy in the next GE rather than Labour.
Coalition Govt here we come.Sturgeon will hold the balance of power.
Haggis will be our national dish.
SilverSixer said:
Jockman said:
Coalition Govt here we come.
Good. The 2010-15 government was the best one in my lifetime. Despite all the Con/Lab squealing about stability and torpor in coalitions, the Tory/LibDem one proved how it can work. Far better than each of the Chuckle Brothers having it all their own way every 10 years or so. It balances things out and acts against the extremes.1. Brown was unelectable
2. Clegg was promising everything, esp tuition fees.
3. Public trust was only just beginning to return to the Tory ranks.
I was comfortable with it though there is a belief that we didn't cut deep enough etc etc
A 2020 Coalition >could< include fish face. That would be problematic.
Everyone again overestimating the influence of a junior coalition partner in government. The biggest party will always shave the whip hand, as did the Conservatives 2010-15. There's only so much the smaller partner can do, but last time it was enough to stop the extremes we're now seeing emerging from one-party government.
SNP? Meh. They'd get some crumbs in a coalition, but not much. Project Fear.
SNP? Meh. They'd get some crumbs in a coalition, but not much. Project Fear.
SilverSixer said:
Everyone again overestimating the influence of a junior coalition partner in government. The biggest party will always shave the whip hand, as did the Conservatives 2010-15. There's only so much the smaller partner can do, but last time it was enough to stop the extremes we're now seeing emerging from one-party government.
SNP? Meh. They'd get some crumbs in a coalition, but not much. Project Fear.
The Lib Dems were instrumental in us having a large Tax free Allowance, currently standing at £11k. That's quite a major achievement.SNP? Meh. They'd get some crumbs in a coalition, but not much. Project Fear.
SNP would constantly moan and moan for the entire 5 years.
Project Fear. Love it. Happy Friday.
I'm off to Bonnie Remainie Scotland tomorrow morning.
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