Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

bmw535i said:

"The majority of the people voted against the Poles"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

That wasn't booing, that was people disagreeing with her sentiment, that she isn't welcome. That's the way I interpreted the noises coming from the audience.

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

bmw535i said:

"The majority of the people voted against the Poles"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

Erm isn't it you who keeps saying the majority of the country didn't vote for Brexit?

“Fifty-two per cent of the voters voted against immigration. Polish is the second most popular language in this country and therefore majority of the people voted against the Poles.”

I think she's a bit confused.

[anonymous-user]

jsf said:

That wasn't booing, that was people disagreeing with her sentiment, that she isn't welcome. That's the way I interpreted the noises coming from the audience.

Indeed, that's because you're normal and not fixated on insisting that every contact with foreigners is racist if there is a disagreement with them.

[Leroy902]

jsf said:

///ajd said:

bmw535i said:

"The majority of the people voted against the Poles"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

That wasn't booing, that was people disagreeing with her sentiment, that she isn't welcome. That's the way I interpreted the noises coming from the audience.

Yup, probably the ones voting for article 59

[Jockman]

jsf said:

That wasn't booing, that was people disagreeing with her sentiment, that she isn't welcome. That's the way I interpreted the noises coming from the audience.

That was my understanding whilst watching the show live. I think people were genuinely distraught that she felt that way. Perception was key in the vote. It remains so, post-referendum.

[Jockman]

bmw535i said:

Indeed, that's because you're normal and not fixated on insisting that every contact with foreigners is racist if there is a disagreement with them.

As a Scotsman living in England - and being made very welcome I might add - I do feel uncomfortable being implicated in racism just because of a vote in a referendum.

[Murph7355]

///ajd said:

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

People. Like you ajd, sadly. And it's tiresome.

Those sort of comments are precisely why people don't feel they can say anything any more without being branded something unpleasant. It's part of the reason why large swathes of people here and elsewhere are voting against the establishment.

The Polish lady in question was the one demonstrating more than her fair share of stupidity. Nothing to do with where she comes from.

[anonymous-user]

Jockman said:

As a Scotsman living in England - and being made very welcome I might add - I do feel uncomfortable being implicated in racism just because of a vote in a referendum.

Don't worry, you're not. Well, only by the odd idiot.

However, I must say in my experience, the Scots are pretty xenophobic when it comes to the English.

[///ajd]

turbobloke said:

///ajd said:

bmw535i said:

"The majority of the people voted against the Poles"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

Remainers' wilful imagination.

Try hard to spot the logic fails in what she said.

“Fifty-two per cent of the voters voted against immigration. Polish is the second most popular language in this country and therefore majority of the people voted against the Poles.”

As a hint, there's one in the first sentence and one in the second sentence. It's fortunate there wasn't a third sentence.

You can't look the other way afterwards.

Vote leave hammered away at immigration and a vote for leave was tied to immigration issues.

You can argue that some leavers were not bothered about it, but you can't deny that 52% ticked that box KNOWING the potential implications of brexit on FMOL.

Thats why it is such a divisive vote, whether you like it or not.

You can say you voted BNP soley because you like Nick Griffins policies on the recycling of electronics, but such a vote does come with some baggage.

I actually think Hannan is a naive fool if he thinks he can distance himself from the Farage aspects of the campaign. He was playing with fire and got burnt. Sounds like he is bedwetting about hard brexit, and so he should, the reckless idiot.

[turbobloke]

///ajd said:

turbobloke said:

///ajd said:

bmw535i said:

"The majority of the people voted against the Poles"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

Remainers' wilful imagination.

Try hard to spot the logic fails in what she said.

“Fifty-two per cent of the voters voted against immigration. Polish is the second most popular language in this country and therefore majority of the people voted against the Poles.”

As a hint, there's one in the first sentence and one in the second sentence. It's fortunate there wasn't a third sentence.

You can't look the other way afterwards.

What happened to look away from? Somebody confused emotion with reason and said some illogical things.

///ajd said:

Vote leave hammered away at immigration and a vote for leave was tied to immigration issues.

You can argue that some leavers were not bothered about it, but you can't deny that 52% ticked that box KNOWING the potential implications of brexit on FMOL.

Thats why it is such a divisive vote, whether you like it or not.

According to news reports there are around 3.6?million EU citizens living in the UK, more than 80 per cent of whom will have permanent residency rights by the time Britain leaves the union in early 2019, according to 'official' research.

The rest total more than 600,000 and will be offered an amnesty, with several Cabinet ministers advising media sources that those citizens will be offered the right to stay permanently.

Any ill-feeling on show may be genuine, if misguided, or it may be created for reasons known to the creator. Not feeling wanted for illogical reasons isn't particularly convincing.

///ajd said:

You can say you voted BNP soley because you like Nick Griffins policies on the recycling of electronics, but such a vote does come with some baggage.

Your remark is general but for my part I didn't vote BNP, and have never voted other than Conservative. Comparing a vote to Leave the EU with a vote for the BNP puts you with some apples and oranges which everyone can see, and alongside the lady in the audience with logic problems.

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

turbobloke said:

///ajd said:

bmw535i said:

"The majority of the people voted against the Poles"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

Remainers' wilful imagination.

Try hard to spot the logic fails in what she said.

“Fifty-two per cent of the voters voted against immigration. Polish is the second most popular language in this country and therefore majority of the people voted against the Poles.”

As a hint, there's one in the first sentence and one in the second sentence. It's fortunate there wasn't a third sentence.

You can't look the other way afterwards.

Vote leave hammered away at immigration and a vote for leave was tied to immigration issues.

You can argue that some leavers were not bothered about it, but you can't deny that 52% ticked that box KNOWING the potential implications of brexit on FMOL.

Thats why it is such a divisive vote, whether you like it or not.

You can say you voted BNP soley because you like Nick Griffins policies on the recycling of electronics, but such a vote does come with some baggage.

I actually think Hannan is a naive fool if he thinks he can distance himself from the Farage aspects of the campaign. He was playing with fire and got burnt. Sounds like he is bedwetting about hard brexit, and so he should, the reckless idiot.

Vote leave hammered away at uncontrolled immigration, using your poor phrasing.

You appear unable to understand the subject of migration.

It's people like you that are stirring the pot on this issue by constantly lying.

[turbobloke]

Precisely. The word 'uncontrolled' gets missed out of too many Remainer posts.

[anonymous-user]

Must be that time of the week that ajd hasn't been able to contact his therapist about his issues with racists.

[Randy Winkman]

On a related topic;

"Former Coronation Street actress Tracy Brabin was heckled by far-right candidates after being elected MP in the by-election triggered by the killing of Jo Cox."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-134419...

[GCH]

[///ajd]

turbobloke said:

///ajd said:

turbobloke said:

///ajd said:

bmw535i said:

"The majority of the people voted against the Poles"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...

Yep, the smart brexiteers in the audience proved her wrong by booing her.

She realised she was welcome after that

Where the on earth does the "thick racist" label come from?

Remainers' wilful imagination.

Try hard to spot the logic fails in what she said.

“Fifty-two per cent of the voters voted against immigration. Polish is the second most popular language in this country and therefore majority of the people voted against the Poles.”

As a hint, there's one in the first sentence and one in the second sentence. It's fortunate there wasn't a third sentence.

You can't look the other way afterwards.

What happened to look away from? Somebody confused emotion with reason and said some illogical things.

///ajd said:

Vote leave hammered away at immigration and a vote for leave was tied to immigration issues.

You can argue that some leavers were not bothered about it, but you can't deny that 52% ticked that box KNOWING the potential implications of brexit on FMOL.

Thats why it is such a divisive vote, whether you like it or not.

According to news reports there are around 3.6?million EU citizens living in the UK, more than 80 per cent of whom will have permanent residency rights by the time Britain leaves the union in early 2019, according to 'official' research.

The rest total more than 600,000 and will be offered an amnesty, with several Cabinet ministers advising media sources that those citizens will be offered the right to stay permanently.

Any ill-feeling on show may be genuine, if misguided, or it may be created for reasons known to the creator. Not feeling wanted for illogical reasons isn't particularly convincing.

///ajd said:

You can say you voted BNP soley because you like Nick Griffins policies on the recycling of electronics, but such a vote does come with some baggage.

Your remark is general but for my part I didn't vote BNP, and have never voted other than Conservative. Comparing a vote to Leave the EU with a vote for the BNP puts you with some apples and oranges which everyone can see, and alongside the lady in the audience with logic problems.

The lady on QT thought she was being booed - she said "you can boo me in a minute". Pretty clear how the boo was received.

I think you need a certain lack of basic emotional awareness to think you can vote for something that will curtail people from Nation X coming into our country, and think it will have no impact on people from Nation X living in the UK - no matter what assurances you try and give them.

[Borghetto]

Looks like the EU/Canada trade deal has failed and for that you can thank 3 million or so Walloons. Doesn't augur well for the EU/US trade deal does it. So can someone tell me why a club of 500 million can have an important trade deal scuppered by less than 1% of the population. So will an independent UK be able to make a trade deal with our North American cousins or will it be scuppered by the population of Manchester.

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

The lady on QT thought she was being booed - she said "you can boo me in a minute". Pretty clear how the boo was received.

I think you need a certain lack of basic emotional awareness to think you can vote for something that will curtail people from Nation X coming into our country, and think it will have no impact on people from Nation X living in the UK - no matter what assurances you try and give them.

She did, she was wrong.

This country is incredibly accepting of migrants, always has been, There are very few people in the country who haven't been touched by migration in their family history.

What we have seen for the last decade in particular, is that acceptance and history being put under more pressure because the rate of change has been too fast for large sections of our society.

Unfortunately you cant see that, instead you prefer to label everyone who wants to see a stable society by putting some control on the situation, as racist, and you spend you time trying to promote that view.

You are the reason for the fear being ramped up in the migrant population, but you will never see it and you will never change your approach to prevent it.

[///ajd]

jsf said:

///ajd said:

The lady on QT thought she was being booed - she said "you can boo me in a minute". Pretty clear how the boo was received.

I think you need a certain lack of basic emotional awareness to think you can vote for something that will curtail people from Nation X coming into our country, and think it will have no impact on people from Nation X living in the UK - no matter what assurances you try and give them.

She did, she was wrong.

This country is incredibly accepting of migrants, always has been, There are very few people in the country who haven't been touched by migration in their family history.

What we have seen for the last decade in particular, is that acceptance and history being put under more pressure because the rate of change has been too fast for large sections of our society.

Unfortunately you cant see that, instead you prefer to label everyone who wants to see a stable society by putting some control on the situation, as racist, and you spend you time trying to promote that view.

You are the reason for the fear being ramped up in the migrant population, but you will never see it and you will never change your approach to prevent it.

It is widely accepted in these sort of situations that it is not whether YOU think she was being booed is relevant - it is how SHE perceives it.

Its like the old fahsioned sexists who think that a Page 3 style picture of a birds knockers stuck on an office wall is not doing anyone any harm - it doesn't do them any harm no, but want about the young girl who starts work there - should she just put up with it?

You can say "shes wrong" until you are blue in the face but it won't change the FACT that the brexit vote makes HER feel less welcome in the UK. Its totally obvious that it would. It is staggering that you are even trying to argue that is not the case.

Take responsibility. You must have known it would make foreigners feel less welcome when you voted. Did this really not cross your mind?

[NerveAgent]

jsf said:

You are the reason for the fear being ramped up in the migrant population, but you will never see it and you will never change your approach to prevent it.

So its absolutely nothing to do with the 30+ years of the gutter press...right....