Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
Discussion
bmw535i said:
Elysium said:
What makes you think that a 'lot of remainers' cannot see this?
Who bullied you?
What lies are you talking about?
1. This threadWho bullied you?
What lies are you talking about?
2. As discussed previously. For the avoidance or doubt o was called a xenophobic loser when I discussed the possibility that I might vote leave.
3. The ones the remain campaign told.
2. Being called a name is not the same as bullying
3. The entire referendum campaign on both sides was built on a tissue of lies.
I find it quite depressing that the referendum has divided our population to this extent on such a narrow issue. I think the brexiteer / remainer tags are appalling.
We need to get away from bickering about the way people voted and regain some tolerance for alternative views.
Troubleatmill said:
///ajd said:
Frankly the backwards attitude to free movement enshrined in brexit is one of the key reasons for u-turn.
Backwards???There is nothing backward about wanting to be able to decide who you want to let into your country and for how long they can stay.
Apparently it works really well for almost every other country on the planet.
But you seem to have some beef with that very simple concept.
alfie2244 said:
Mrr T said:
turbobloke said:
EU nitwit demands Brexit talks are held in French.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Why should they be held in English. Perhaps compromise and use German.
digimeistter said:
alfie2244 said:
Mrr T said:
turbobloke said:
EU nitwit demands Brexit talks are held in French.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Why should they be held in English. Perhaps compromise and use German.The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Elysium said:
1. Very few remainers post on this thread. When they do they are hounded by a small pro-leave group. Generally the same names, who in my opinion aim to close down any opinion that differs from their own. I don't think you can form any
2. Being called a name is not the same as bullying
3. The entire referendum campaign on both sides was built on a tissue of lies.
I find it quite depressing that the referendum has divided our population to this extent on such a narrow issue. I think the brexiteer / remainer tags are appalling.
We need to get away from bickering about the way people voted and regain some tolerance for alternative views.
To be honest if I found the subject depressing and appalling, I'd just not participate in it any longer.2. Being called a name is not the same as bullying
3. The entire referendum campaign on both sides was built on a tissue of lies.
I find it quite depressing that the referendum has divided our population to this extent on such a narrow issue. I think the brexiteer / remainer tags are appalling.
We need to get away from bickering about the way people voted and regain some tolerance for alternative views.
It would be great if ajd would not keep banging the racist drum, but nobody can stop him - it's a free country. In the same vein, alternative viewpoints are available.
Like I think the campaign was bullying, you don't. I'm sure you're aware that it's subjective.
Murph7355 said:
Troubleatmill said:
///ajd said:
Frankly the backwards attitude to free movement enshrined in brexit is one of the key reasons for u-turn.
Backwards???There is nothing backward about wanting to be able to decide who you want to let into your country and for how long they can stay.
Apparently it works really well for almost every other country on the planet.
But you seem to have some beef with that very simple concept.
But its my view that going from free movement to restricted movement is backward. It is reducing freedom.
I do get annoyed however by the argument that free movement in the EU is limiting wider migration. This is pure Farage/express nonsense. We can do what we like with non-EU migration.
turbobloke said:
Quite so.
The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you you're being racistThe EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
bmw535i said:
turbobloke said:
Quite so.
The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you you're being racistThe EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Did you have anyone in mind perchance
turbobloke said:
digimeistter said:
alfie2244 said:
Mrr T said:
turbobloke said:
EU nitwit demands Brexit talks are held in French.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Why should they be held in English. Perhaps compromise and use German.The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
digimeistter said:
alfie2244 said:
Mrr T said:
turbobloke said:
EU nitwit demands Brexit talks are held in French.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Why should they be held in English. Perhaps compromise and use German.The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Using an example where the English did get their own way - helpful.
Or, common sense prevailed.
///ajd said:
The assumption that the talks would be in english is a wonderful dig at small minded english rule britannia isolationists - and going by your distress he hit his target audience right where he wanted to.
The assumption that the talks would be in English proved to be correct.///ajd said:
I do get annoyed however by the argument that free movement in the EU is limiting wider migration. This is pure Farage/express nonsense. We can do what we like with non-EU migration.
I agree however if politicians state a goal of reducing net migration to a certain number (while we are bound by free movement in the EU) the only way to realistically hit a reduction target is to focus on non EU migration.You agree?
turbobloke said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
digimeistter said:
alfie2244 said:
Mrr T said:
turbobloke said:
EU nitwit demands Brexit talks are held in French.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Why should they be held in English. Perhaps compromise and use German.The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Using an example where the English did get their own way - helpful.
Or, common sense prevailed.
///ajd said:
The assumption that the talks would be in english is a wonderful dig at small minded english rule britannia isolationists - and going by your distress he hit his target audience right where he wanted to.
The assumption that the talks would be in English proved to be correct.///ajd said:
He was reminding you that you shouldn't just assume. And he was right. Overall it doesn't help, and he will increase resentment against the EU, but he is poking fun at Faragistas in any case.
But the assumption was a correct one so I don't really get your point.He sounds just like you - divisive and unhelpful. Surely you can see the similarities.
I mean if poking fun is what you're all about, it isn't working. People here are only laughing at you I'm afraid.
///ajd said:
But its my view that going from free movement to restricted movement is backward. It is reducing freedom.
Yes, it's worked well for France hasn't it.....Utter tripe, restricted movement ensures we know who and why people want to come to Britain and can decide whether they will benefit the British economy and do not pose a threat to British citizens.
Leaving the door wide open for the last 2 decades has put public services on the brink. Hospitals and schools have suffered the most.
bmw535i said:
///ajd said:
He was reminding you that you shouldn't just assume. And he was right. Overall it doesn't help, and he will increase resentment against the EU, but he is poking fun at Faragistas in any case.
But the assumption was a correct one so I don't really get your point.He sounds just like you - divisive and unhelpful. Surely you can see the similarities.
bmw535i said:
///ajd said:
He was reminding you that you shouldn't just assume. And he was right. Overall it doesn't help, and he will increase resentment against the EU, but he is poking fun at Faragistas in any case.
But the assumption was a correct one so I don't really get your point.He sounds just like you - divisive and unhelpful. Surely you can see the similarities.
I mean if poking fun is what you're all about, it isn't working. People here are only laughing at you I'm afraid.
Thankfully you won't be needed. There will be enough who do get it.
///ajd said:
Thats your view, and you are welcome to it.
But its my view that going from free movement to restricted movement is backward. It is reducing freedom.
I do get annoyed however by the argument that free movement in the EU is limiting wider migration. This is pure Farage/express nonsense. We can do what we like with non-EU migration.
Rather than move the goalposts to something no one has mentioned, why not answer the two very simple questions...But its my view that going from free movement to restricted movement is backward. It is reducing freedom.
I do get annoyed however by the argument that free movement in the EU is limiting wider migration. This is pure Farage/express nonsense. We can do what we like with non-EU migration.
If free movement of people is conclusively desirable, why:
1) Does nobody else do it?
2) Does the EU restrict it to the 28 member states?
You know the answers as well as I do. Unfortunately those answers completely work against the EU insisting upon it as a "freedom" as the same reasons apply to the 28 member states.
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