Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
Discussion
///ajd said:
Its a pretty poor argument though isn't it, usually used by.....
Now why would you say that? She made a pair of gross generalisations in her statement:1)That everyone who voted for Brexit is against foreigners
2)That because there were more Poles than any other nationality it had to be about the Polish.
Which led her to the conclusion that British people don't want Polish people here any more.
My dictionary defines racism as "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race" which is exactly what she did. Hence racist.
Now, we can throw the word around as much as we like until it loses all meaning and ends up being like when kids call each other "Gay" but that's not helpful at all. Perhaps instead of trying to score points with nasty words you could engage in a discussion of the issues?
///ajd said:
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But its my view that going from free movement to restricted movement is backward.
In this statement - you said that you believe that going to restricted movement is a step backwards.But its my view that going from free movement to restricted movement is backward.
In your previous statement you said "...backwards attitude".
Do you see the difference?
And is the EU backward for not letting the other 6 billion people on the planet have free movement to freely relocate here?
Edited by Troubleatmill on Saturday 22 October 13:06
Elysium said:
FiF said:
Exactly so TB, it sounds like he is making an oblique attempt to say that the reason people voted out was a simple anti establishment vote as opposed to they actually wanted to leave the EU for a whole host of reasons. Desperation stuff perhaps which we've heard on here before. Doesn't wash.
It seems quite obvious to me that for some people the vote was an attack on the establishment. I didn't vote Leave because I dislike the establishment. I voted Leave because I wanted us to Leave.
It is quite simple.
My reasons for wanting to Leave are irrelevant. We had a referendum and the majority disagreed with you.
What should be quite obvious to you is that we are Leaving.
As Father Ray Kelly would say, "Hallelujah!".
bmw535i said:
Well done for holding your hands up George, but how on earth did he not realise his lies would only harden people's resolve. A lot of remainers still can't see that the bullying and lies just made people all the more determined to vote leave.
I guess some people have a complete lack of self awareness
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...
Has the liar admitted that we wouldn't need a £32Bn emergency budget immediately if we voted for Brexit?I guess some people have a complete lack of self awareness
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/n...
Many people were misled into voting Remain because they believed this whopping lie.
don4l said:
Why on Earth do you Remoaners have to keep telling us why we voted to Leave?
Because they cannot accept the answers they have been given many many times by multiple Brexit voters. So, instead, they invent their own reasons - racism, xenophobia, 350million NHS, anti establishment, lack of intelligence, lack of understanding etc etc etc ad nauseam - and then, having invented those reasons, they ascribe them to Brexit voters so that they can attack them.This is the easier path to "debate" for ///ajd et al, rather than listen to or try to understand what actual Brexit voters are saying were the actual reasons why they voted to leave.
I'm back from Singapore today, having met with a number of my largest clients out there. To a man they are delighted with the result and are excited for the future of the UK. Note, they express these opinions themselves...they are not solicited by me at all ( I think politics in business meetings is a recipe for problems!) One of my colleagues on the trip was an ardent remainer, and he actually had the temerity to apologise on behalf of the UK for the exit vote!!!!!!! Before I could rebuke him, our Singaporean hosts took him to task and asked him why he was talking down the UK? Our hosts proclaimed their confidence that our great nation would prosper.- their words! (I still had a word with him in the lift on the way down after the meeting though!)
andymadmak said:
Because they cannot accept the answers they have been given many many times by multiple Brexit voters. So, instead, they invent their own reasons - racism, xenophobia, 350million NHS, anti establishment, lack of intelligence, lack of understanding etc etc etc ad nauseam - and then, having invented those reasons, they ascribe them to Brexit voters so that they can attack them.
This is the easier path to "debate" for ///ajd et al, rather than listen to or try to understand what actual Brexit voters are saying were the actual reasons why they voted to leave.
I'm back from Singapore today, having met with a number of my largest clients out there. To a man they are delighted with the result and are excited for the future of the UK. Note, they express these opinions themselves...they are not solicited by me at all ( I think politics in business meetings is a recipe for problems!) One of my colleagues on the trip was an ardent remainer, and he actually had the temerity to apologise on behalf of the UK for the exit vote!!!!!!! Before I could rebuke him, our Singaporean hosts took him to task and asked him why he was talking down the UK? Our hosts proclaimed their confidence that our great nation would prosper.- their words! (I still had a word with him in the lift on the way down after the meeting though!)
Thats just about as to how I perceive things. They ask questions, then when they get answers they don't like, they ignore them and insert their own, usually in an attempt to demean . Personally, I've long thought that if you want to ask a question, but might not like the answer and get a strop on , don't ask it in the first place. This is the easier path to "debate" for ///ajd et al, rather than listen to or try to understand what actual Brexit voters are saying were the actual reasons why they voted to leave.
I'm back from Singapore today, having met with a number of my largest clients out there. To a man they are delighted with the result and are excited for the future of the UK. Note, they express these opinions themselves...they are not solicited by me at all ( I think politics in business meetings is a recipe for problems!) One of my colleagues on the trip was an ardent remainer, and he actually had the temerity to apologise on behalf of the UK for the exit vote!!!!!!! Before I could rebuke him, our Singaporean hosts took him to task and asked him why he was talking down the UK? Our hosts proclaimed their confidence that our great nation would prosper.- their words! (I still had a word with him in the lift on the way down after the meeting though!)
Having said that, the pompous, arrogant, sneering sense of superiority shown by all too many remoaners is dispicable, deplorable, and in some ways laughable. Some of those people need to get a life, and mix in the real world.
don4l said:
Has the liar admitted that we wouldn't need a £32Bn emergency budget immediately if we voted for Brexit?
Many people were misled into voting Remain because they believed this whopping lie.
There were many other lies. Like petrol would immediately rise through the roof - I think £1.60 a litre was mentioned. I was always fairly convinced of my intention to vote leave - the likes of Obama coming here with his hypocrisy only confirmed it really.Many people were misled into voting Remain because they believed this whopping lie.
As you rightly point out though, it's all irrelevant now - I have said the same several times in this thread. I guess it will be impossible to convince others of this obvious fact. They will continue to bang on about the lib dems etc gaining power and having a u-turn.
In all fairness, as I have said before; it is possible a u-turn could happen, but it would be politically insane to do so and would result in the rise of UKIP (IMO)
Hosenbugler said:
Thats just about as to how I perceive things. They ask questions, then when they get answers they don't like, they ignore them and insert their own, usually in an attempt to demean . Personally, I've long thought that if you want to ask a question, but might not like the answer and get a strop on , don't ask it in the first place.
Having said that, the pompous, arrogant, sneering sense of superiority shown by all too many remoaners is dispicable, deplorable, and in some ways laughable. Some of those people need to get a life, and mix in the real world.
It is definitely laughable. This thread alone has provided much entertainment. Sadly much of the stuff Spermbank said to me the other day has been deleted and I believe he has been banned, but it was hilarious. Having said that, the pompous, arrogant, sneering sense of superiority shown by all too many remoaners is dispicable, deplorable, and in some ways laughable. Some of those people need to get a life, and mix in the real world.
bmw535i said:
This thread alone has provided much entertainment.
turbobloke said:
bmw535i said:
turbobloke said:
Quite so.
The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you you're being racistThe EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Did you have anyone in mind perchance
turbobloke said:
bmw535i said:
This thread alone has provided much entertainment.
turbobloke said:
bmw535i said:
turbobloke said:
Quite so.
The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you you're being racistThe EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Did you have anyone in mind perchance
bmw535i said:
In all fairness, as I have said before; it is possible a u-turn could happen, but it would be politically insane to do so and would result in the rise of UKIP (IMO)
Quite.I do like the idea of Prime Minister Farage.
The rage would be excellent fun to witness.
I might just start pushing for a u-turn. It would only delay our departure by a year.
alfie2244 said:
turbobloke said:
bmw535i said:
This thread alone has provided much entertainment.
turbobloke said:
bmw535i said:
turbobloke said:
Quite so.
The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you you're being racistThe EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Did you have anyone in mind perchance
I wonder if the EU nitwit can match BJ for languages turbobloke said:
It didn't happen, or at least it hasn't as yet - it looks as though the usual suspects were warned off by your suggestion.
What HE will do is make a snide remark at what he believes is my expense to another of his remain friends. I'd imagine the loss of purple was a savage blow - the way those two bounced off each other was incredible. Purple was outed as a hypocrite and went off in a huff, but HE is made of sterner stuff and quite happily gets pilloried every day. All a bit odd, but I guess some folk just can't accept the inevitable.
Personally I quite like our exchanges, but sadly he doesn't respond when it's pointed out he's wrong - he just comes back with the racist angle every time. Quite tedious really. I often wonder what other posters on here are like in real life - I think my assumptions would be quite accurate in most cases.
turbobloke said:
alfie2244 said:
turbobloke said:
bmw535i said:
This thread alone has provided much entertainment.
turbobloke said:
bmw535i said:
turbobloke said:
Quite so.
The EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you you're being racistThe EU nitwit got there in the end.
It's why we're approaching 2 billion people around the world learning English, above and beyond those already speaking it as their national language.
French and German are nowhere near, they're minor languages on the same scale.
Spanish is doing OK with speakers but nowhere near as many learners.
Did you have anyone in mind perchance
I wonder if the EU nitwit can match BJ for languages This afternoon I have brushed up on my French, so I am in a position to negotiate on Britain's behalf. Learning French was remarkably easy, as I only had to learn four words:-
"Va te faire foutre".
don4l said:
bmw535i said:
In all fairness, as I have said before; it is possible a u-turn could happen, but it would be politically insane to do so and would result in the rise of UKIP (IMO)
Quite.I do like the idea of Prime Minister Farage.
The rage would be excellent fun to witness.
I might just start pushing for a u-turn. It would only delay our departure by a year.
Jimboka said:
There will be some more twists and turns thankfully. Plenty of time to dig ourselves out of this almighty mess. The idiocy of which the world has never seen !
Indeed, superior anti democratic people as yourself know just how idiotic 17.4 million people are. Anyhow, off to cook tea, better things to do than interact with the pompous.
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