Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[hidetheelephants]

Radio 4's Any Questions?; Kinnock Jr utters some fluent drivel about brexit.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Saturday 22 October 22:37

[cirian75]

the racist parts of the leave campaign did NOT win the referendum, it will have caused some "swing" voters to vote leave but not enough to swing it all the way by a long shot.


I say this as a remain person.


the side effect though is that some people think it did, and some of these people are racist thugs and think that they can now openly voice and act the way they want.

It as simple as that.

The Tories are not helping it by trying to out UKIP the UKIP party.

[s2art]

cirian75 said:

The Tories are not helping it by trying to out UKIP the UKIP party.

In what way?

[davepoth]

cirian75 said:

The Tories are not helping it by trying to out UKIP the UKIP party.

UKIP Party is a tautology.

The only UKIP policy the government have taken on is leaving the EU; I'm not sure they had much of a choice really.

[anonymous-user]

230TE said:

So you've taken a bit of banter about a (now-banned) keyboard warrior who claimed to be a builder, and seamlessly woven it into a "Leavers are violent racists" narrative. And then you expect people not to think you are an utter dick.

You're wrong there mate.

The thought actually comforts him. My sons teacher tells me that sometimes children act up to get attention, even if it is negative and disciplinary attention.

As I predicted, ajd will come back with a snide retort thinly veiled behind some new nonsense about racism. It's behaviour that has been repeated throughout the whole thread.

Don't rise to the bait folks, it's whatvtrolls like.

[768]

cirian75 said:

the racist parts of the leave campaign did NOT win the referendum...
...the side effect though is that some people think it did, and some of these people are racist thugs and think that they can now openly voice and act the way they want.

It's the likes of //ajd making out that any leave voter is racist that really gives credence to any leave voter who actually is a racist thug, after all, if there's little more legitimate than a voting majority in a democracy.

Ironic really, when he seems to prefer an immigration policy favouring mostly white people from Western Europe.

[dandarez]

///ajd said:

Deptford Draylons said:

///ajd said:

Its not a scaffolding poll but close.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2021380/shocking-mom...

Relax though, Daniel has confirmed he isn't racist, so everything is OK.

A spanish guy - really? I mean really?

What has this got to do with trying to stitch up the Brexit result ?

535i was talking about which side all the anger and aggression came from, and there was a suggestion about hitters ng people with poles (small p).

Of course Daniel could have been a remainer.

What do you reckon?

Regardless, I thought he used a plank, not a pole?

Former is a very apt description of you, eh?

Capital P for Plank in your case!

[anonymous-user]

andymadmak said:

alfie2244 said:

///ajd said:

Its not a scaffolding poll but close.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2021380/shocking-mom...

Relax though, Daniel has confirmed he isn't racist, so everything is OK.

A spanish guy - really? I mean really?

Before the referendum......really? I mean really what has that got to do with "Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result"?...you really are nasty little man.

Yes, a new low for ///ajd. But is anyone surprised? Statistically, a majority of those who helped to end the attack, and then detain the attacker until the Police arrived could well have been Brexit voters.. But of course that wont fit the narrative in ///ajd's twisted, narrow, bigotted little world.
///ajd is one of the reasons why many people no longer post on threads like this. After all, whats the point of explaining anything to someone who's sole mantra is that you're a racist if you voted out?

OT moment: Put all that to one side.

How does the guy who did that not end up in prison? He got 12 months, suspended for 15 months, and what looks like some form of community service order.

This makes little sense to me. You can end up in prison for dangerous driving because dangerous driving presents a risk of danger to others. Clock someone around the face, unprovoked, with a plank of wood - thereby creating not simply danger but real injury - because you don't like the language they're speaking - surely an aggravating feature - and you get a suspended sentence? How?

[b2hbm]

Deptford Draylons said:

///ajd said:

Its not a scaffolding poll but close.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2021380/shocking-mom...

Relax though, Daniel has confirmed he isn't racist, so everything is OK.

A spanish guy - really? I mean really?

What has this got to do with trying to stitch up the Brexit result ?

Absolutely nothing, but of course that doesn't stop it being on the racist agenda.

Article said:

Way was chased by passersby who witnessed the attack in the early hours of Thursday, May 19 and then restrained by members of the public until the police arrived

Really //ajd, you should read all of the articles you come across before you post them.

Edited by b2hbm on Sunday 23 October 07:23

[turbobloke]

Greg66 said:

This makes little sense to me. You can end up in prison for dangerous driving because dangerous driving presents a risk of danger to others. Clock someone around the face, unprovoked, with a plank of wood - thereby creating not simply danger but real injury - because you don't like the language they're speaking - surely an aggravating feature - and you get a suspended sentence? How?

How indeed, the offender should have been locked up.

[///ajd]

Well a couple have condemned the plank attack. That's good.

Quite a few would rather attack me. Interesting.

The ramp up in anti-foreigner sentiment rose throughtout the campaign.

The fires were well stoked by May - look at this from Farage in April - "take it to the enemy"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

[All that jazz]

///ajd said:

small minded english rule britannia isolationists

[230TE]

///ajd said:

Well a couple have condemned the plank attack. That's good.

Quite a few would rather attack me. Interesting.

The ramp up in anti-foreigner sentiment rose throughtout the campaign.

The fires were well stoked by May - look at this from Farage in April - "take it to the enemy"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Who do you think Farage means by "the enemy"?

[Elysium]

The Chief Exec of the BBA has been talking to the Observer about the risks of a hard brexit:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/22/l...

I realise that some will dismiss it simply because it was run by a left wing paper. However, that misses the point. The BBA will be in very close dialogue with the banking sector on this issue and will be the primary conduit for lobbying.

Ministers like to meet with trade associations rather than individual companies to avoid allegations of bias. The BBA have obviously decided that it would be sensible to take their lobbying public.

I don't know if a hard brexit will really cause the banks to move, but the existence of this article makes it clear that they do not see it as good for business. It also blows away the idea that hard vs soft brexit is a false dichotomy.

[don'tbesilly]

///ajd said:

Well a couple have condemned the plank attack. That's good.

Quite a few would rather attack me. Interesting.

The ramp up in anti-foreigner sentiment rose throughtout the campaign.

The fires were well stoked by May - look at this from Farage in April - "take it to the enemy"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Farage in April.
It's now nearly November.

[///ajd]

230TE said:

///ajd said:

Well a couple have condemned the plank attack. That's good.

Quite a few would rather attack me. Interesting.

The ramp up in anti-foreigner sentiment rose throughtout the campaign.

The fires were well stoked by May - look at this from Farage in April - "take it to the enemy"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Who do you think Farage means by "the enemy"?

The question you should be asking is "why is there an enemy at all?"

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

Well a couple have condemned the plank attack. That's good.

Quite a few would rather attack me. Interesting.

The ramp up in anti-foreigner sentiment rose throughtout the campaign.

The fires were well stoked by May - look at this from Farage in April - "take it to the enemy"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

It's not interesting at all.

[230TE]

///ajd said:

230TE said:

///ajd said:

Well a couple have condemned the plank attack. That's good.

Quite a few would rather attack me. Interesting.

The ramp up in anti-foreigner sentiment rose throughtout the campaign.

The fires were well stoked by May - look at this from Farage in April - "take it to the enemy"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...

Who do you think Farage means by "the enemy"?

The question you should be asking is "why is there an enemy at all?"

Who do you think Farage means by "the enemy"?

[anonymous-user]

230TE said:

Who do you think Farage means by "the enemy"?

I keep saying it - obtuse troll

[FiF]

turbobloke said:

Greg66 said:

This makes little sense to me. You can end up in prison for dangerous driving because dangerous driving presents a risk of danger to others. Clock someone around the face, unprovoked, with a plank of wood - thereby creating not simply danger but real injury - because you don't like the language they're speaking - surely an aggravating feature - and you get a suspended sentence? How?

How indeed, the offender should have been locked up.

It's partly because our sentencing guidelines are in some ways completely skewed. OK it is correct to take account of mitigation for an offender of, say, previously good record who did something out of character and appears to show genuine remorse in the sentencing. Yet we regularly see repeat offenders who have been given chance after chance, subject to a suspended sentence, previous community service orders unattended times numerous having mitigation oh he's got a job to care for the baby on the way malarkey that's been trotted out before. Yet we stick a few people in the chokey every year for not paying their TV licence fine.

Before any usual suspect comes back with a snidey smart arse comment that the second sentence above is an attempt to defend the miscreant in thus case, it is definitely not. Don't have any knowledge of his previous record or character, whacking someone with a plank and causing injury just because you've got issues with foreigners is not acceptable and we don't want behaviour like that in society. A spell away from the freedom that our society provides might send a message.